LUC Meeting, Feb. 27, 2022: Transcript

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LUC Meeting, Feb. 27, 2022: Transcript

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[09:48] Mizou Vavoom: ok we have a quorum now, lets start from the beginning :)
[09:48] Delia Lake: if the airfield looked active even a little I think it would get used.
[09:48] Mizou Vavoom: We can discuss the LM's when we get there in a few minutes OK?
[09:48] Rosie Gray: I've seen people there
[09:49] Sylvia Tamalyn: sure, mizou :)
[09:49] Mizou Vavoom: Agenda
1. Minutes previous meeting for approval –
https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php ... 46b5c78141
[09:49] Mizou Vavoom: motion to approve
[09:49] Delia Lake: aye
[09:49] Cathy Sabre: second
[09:49] Mizou Vavoom: aye
[09:49] Delia Lake: oops too soon
[09:49] Sylvia Tamalyn: link didn't work but aye
[09:49] Mizou Vavoom: oh?
[09:49] Cathy Sabre: aye
[09:49] Mizou Vavoom: weird i copie dit
[09:50] Mizou Vavoom: copied
[09:50] Mizou Vavoom: 2. Agenda this meeting for approval –
https://forums.slcds.info/posting.php?m ... 46b5c78141
[09:50] Mizou Vavoom: oh i see what happens the link is broken
[09:50] Sylvia Tamalyn: https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php ... f827c9f441
[09:50] Sylvia Tamalyn: try that
[09:50] Mizou Vavoom: https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php ... 141#p50628
[09:50] Cathy Sabre: Octobers is posted
[09:51] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Cathy i saw that
[09:51] Mizou Vavoom: motion to apporve todays agenda
[09:51] Sylvia Tamalyn: second
[09:51] Mizou Vavoom: aye
[09:51] Sylvia Tamalyn: aye
[09:51] Cathy Sabre: aye
[09:51] Mizou Vavoom: Delia?
[09:52] Mizou Vavoom: hmmm Delia is multitasking
[09:53] Mizou Vavoom is poking Delia
[09:54] Delia Lake: aye
[09:54] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Delia
[09:54] Mizou Vavoom: 3. Old business: A real pathway to the catacombs and a real cave under the Platz in NFS
- Available prims and publish the prim inventory on the forum.
[09:55] Mizou Vavoom: https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php ... 46b5c78141
[09:56] Mizou Vavoom: From what i see on the forum there are 3788 prims free in NFS so that is ample prims to make a cave/tunnel
[09:56] Sylvia Tamalyn: and lots more in CN to work on the catacombs
[09:56] Mizou Vavoom: yes
[09:56] Mizou Vavoom: so next would be to - Write a proposal and present it to the chancellor for approval.-
[09:56] Delia Lake: if we use the components of cube republic not the whole cave we can use less prims because we only really need the inside, not the outside of the cave
[09:57] Mizou Vavoom: yes, exactly
[09:57] Mizou Vavoom: i was kind of thinking of having a tunnel with some sideways
[09:57] Delia Lake: imo we should do a good job and use as few prims as possible. I don't want to increase lag for events
[09:58] Mizou Vavoom: /e nods
[09:58] Delia Lake: you can use the cube republic 1 prim rocks for outsides
[09:58] Delia Lake: I've done that
[09:58] Mizou Vavoom: Rosie do you have an idea how many prims it would take to make a long tunnel?
[09:59] Rosie Gray: not really... so much would depend on how you do it
[09:59] Delia Lake: how long?
[09:59] Mizou Vavoom: yes ho wlong is the question
[09:59] Sylvia Tamalyn: we need to map out a proposed route and get that measurement i guess
[09:59] Delia Lake: I can check how many I used for mine later
[09:59] Rosie Gray: I think a design would come first, then draft up an example
[10:00] Mizou Vavoom: yes agreed Rosie
[10:00] Mizou Vavoom: but first maybe ask Sudane because she mentioned last meeting that it would create some kind of land upheaval
[10:00] Delia Lake: how complex do we want the inside to be? a straight tunnel? a t-tunnel?
[10:01] Mizou Vavoom: maybe one or two sides to the tunnel?
[10:01] Mizou Vavoom: with spooky things?
[10:01] Rosie Gray: first I think that the start and end points would need to be defined, then any side tunnels
[10:01] Rosie Gray: or 'rooms'
[10:01] Mizou Vavoom: yes agreed
[10:01] Mizou Vavoom: oh rooms like under NFS
[10:02] Delia Lake: if we use the hole that is already under the platz we won't disturb the land
[10:02] Rosie Gray: well, assuming you want to make it interesting
[10:02] Delia Lake: a rebuild it would be
[10:02] Rosie Gray: right, under the platz
[10:02] Mizou Vavoom: and where will it come out?
[10:02] Rosie Gray: and it could be connected to the tombs under the Kirche
[10:02] Mizou Vavoom: good idea
[10:03] Rosie Gray: what about going underneath the roads and connecting to the Schloss dungeon?
[10:03] Sylvia Tamalyn: that's what i was just thinking, rosie
[10:03] Delia Lake: depends if there is already a hole there
[10:03] Delia Lake: and whether we would have to dig under someone's owned plot
[10:03] Rosie Gray: careful terraforming would likely have to be done... very careful
[10:04] Mizou Vavoom nods
[10:04] Mizou Vavoom: if it goes under someones plot will that afect their prim count?
[10:04] Rosie Gray: I don't think going under someone's private parcel is a good idea
[10:04] Delia Lake: there are places in nfs where the terraforming is a bit squirrely. on the edge of my land is and some places in the valley are fine others are not. I haven't terraformed under the platz so can only speak to what I've done
[10:05] Mizou Vavoom: ok
[10:05] Delia Lake: what I mean exactly is a few areas don't smooth well when terraforming
[10:05] Rosie Gray: even if you didn't add to their prim count, it could be awkward for other things
[10:05] Rosie Gray: agreed, Delia
[10:05] Mizou Vavoom: what way Rosie?
[10:05] Rosie Gray: but most of the NFS city is under concrete
[10:05] Sylvia Tamalyn: right, people probably don't want a crowd being chased by zombies under their bedroom
[10:05] Mizou Vavoom: lol
[10:05] Rosie Gray: hehe, yes
[10:06] Cathy Sabre: I could draft a pdf plan if we decide the parameters
[10:06] Rosie Gray: but was thinking also about audio changes
[10:06] Rosie Gray: and environmental changes as you move through
[10:06] Delia Lake: if you had someone hanging out under their property with a lot of attachments it could create lag in their home
[10:06] Cathy Sabre: That is a non starter
[10:06] Rosie Gray: yeah
[10:06] Sylvia Tamalyn: audio, voice, it could be problematic under a home too
[10:06] Mizou Vavoom: yes
[10:06] Rosie Gray: yes, all of those things
[10:06] Mizou Vavoom: so better stay away from peoples lands
[10:06] Delia Lake: yes
[10:06] Sylvia Tamalyn: yes
[10:06] Rosie Gray: yes
[10:07] Delia Lake: only under common land
[10:07] Mizou Vavoom: so tha tis one thing on top of our tunnel list
[10:07] Rosie Gray: I don't think that would be too difficult with the existing roads mapping
[10:07] Delia Lake: also
[10:07] Cathy Sabre: Better not to cross any property liness.
[10:07] Mizou Vavoom: so the tunnel would have natural turns in it
[10:07] Delia Lake: the depth of the tunnel determines how much you would disturb property on the sides
[10:07] Mizou Vavoom: floowing the roads
[10:08] Mizou Vavoom: following the rods
[10:08] Mizou Vavoom: roads
[10:08] Delia Lake: digging deep jiggers the land around
[10:08] Rosie Gray: I think they'd have to be pretty basic... the tunnels
[10:08] Rosie Gray: in NFS
[10:08] Mizou Vavoom: just square with a few rocks here and there?
[10:08] Rosie Gray: but the real improvement could be the entrance to the underground
[10:09] Mizou Vavoom: where is that Rosie?
[10:09] Rosie Gray: where the halloween stuff is
[10:09] Mizou Vavoom: ah under the bridge?
[10:09] Rosie Gray: that big entrance
[10:09] Rosie Gray: yes
[10:09] Mizou Vavoom: how do you see it?
[10:09] Delia Lake: the inside of the tunnel components for cube republic are rounded, tunnel shape
[10:09] Rosie Gray: that area could really be improved
[10:09] Rosie Gray: well, making the entrance look like going into a cave, covering up the land parts that you see
[10:10] Rosie Gray: when they are green or snowy it really doesn't look great inside a cave ㋡
[10:10] Delia Lake: digging a tunnel is really digging a trench. it isn't possible to actually tunnel sl ground
[10:10] Mizou Vavoom will need to revisit the cave
[10:11] Mizou Vavoom: So maybe we could all have a look at the current entrance and come up with ideas to improve it?
[10:11] Mizou Vavoom: for next meeting?
[10:11] Delia Lake: yes
[10:12] Rosie Gray: I have an experience at that entrance which improved the look a little bit, but it's certainly needs improving
[10:13] Mizou Vavoom: the main one Rosie?
[10:13] Rosie Gray: yes, that main entrance
[10:13] Mizou Vavoom: oh ok i only saw the one near the beach
[10:13] Rosie Gray: there are a few around
[10:13] Mizou Vavoom: ok so we all agree to come up with new ideas for the main one
[10:13] Delia Lake: cube republic does have decent cave entrance components
[10:13] Rosie Gray: I put them at all of the underground entrances
[10:14] Mizou Vavoom: ah hok
[10:14] Sylvia Tamalyn: i'm not sure i know where all the entrances are
[10:14] Mizou Vavoom: same here Sylvia
[10:15] Delia Lake: the main entrance is along the road to AM just north of the nfs bridge
[10:15] Mizou Vavoom: oh? not the bridge from CN?
[10:16] Rosie Gray: that's the same place
[10:16] Rosie Gray: oh... you are talking two different tunnels
[10:16] Mizou Vavoom: Woudl it help to have a forum post with all the entrances LM?
[10:16] Delia Lake: the bridge on cn has the entrance to another tunnel ,also while we are talking about it, in CN there are possible underground tunnel places that are currently unused
[10:16] Delia Lake: I got accidently tp'd into one of them recently
[10:16] Mizou Vavoom: I am a little bit confused about all the existing tunnels
[10:16] Rosie Gray: oh yes, it would be much easier to do in CN
[10:16] Delia Lake: they have wall blocks that could be raised
[10:17] Mizou Vavoom: Would someone familiar with the entrances make a list and put it on the forum, sow e can all visit them?
[10:17] Sylvia Tamalyn: it would be helpful to have a map or something
[10:17] Sylvia Tamalyn: yeah, or a list
[10:18] Rosie Gray: I think you all need to walk around more!
[10:18] Delia Lake: just though of something else. when the land clearance is low we could have a crawl anim to click at each entry point
[10:18] Mizou Vavoom: lol
[10:18] Mizou Vavoom: i tend to avoid the scary tunnels
[10:18] Cathy Sabre: I might be able to make a map of the underground areas.
[10:19] Mizou Vavoom: yes thanks Cathy
[10:19] Cathy Sabre: With some help.
[10:19] Delia Lake: that would be helpful for building, Cathy, yes
[10:19] Mizou Vavoom: that would help
[10:19] Cathy Sabre: An As-Built plan.
[10:19] Mizou Vavoom: brilliant
[10:19] Sylvia Tamalyn: that would be fun, delia!
[10:20] Delia Lake: I would like us to have attractions with things people can do
[10:20] Mizou Vavoom: or experiences?
[10:20] Delia Lake: yes
[10:20] Rosie Gray: experiences are fun
[10:20] Rosie Gray: and exploring tunnels is fun too
[10:21] Delia Lake: yes.
[10:21] Cathy Sabre: Finding a clue to tp past a locked door?
[10:21] Mizou Vavoom: ok could we move to the next point, I think we have enough to work on until next meeting
[10:21] Delia Lake: last night I had to go to the kennel to retrieve my vkc dog. when I got her I let her run through the obstacle course. it was fun even watching her
[10:22] Mizou Vavoom: 4. New business: Best landing spots for CDS? Research paid locations and re-organise them
[10:22] Mizou Vavoom: We were talking about this before the meeting
[10:22] Delia Lake: yes
[10:22] Delia Lake: don't need 3 for nfs imo
[10:23] Rosie Gray: sorry I have to go to my BB class
[10:23] Delia Lake: need to remove the Friedsee one from someone's private land
[10:23] Mizou Vavoom: me too
[10:23] Rosie Gray: see you all later
[10:23] Delia Lake: bye Rosie
[10:23] Sylvia Tamalyn: bye rosie :)
[10:23] Cathy Sabre: BTW, some Frenchman landed on an advertised spot in NFS, then flew 4000 m into my lounge. lol.
[10:23] Delia Lake: wow
[10:23] Mizou Vavoom: ok i have to go soon too, as I am in same class as Rosie
[10:23] Cathy Sabre: IK, huh.
[10:24] Mizou Vavoom: so we need a better spot for NFS
[10:24] Sylvia Tamalyn: better, and fewer
[10:24] Mizou Vavoom: one in a good spot
[10:24] Almut Brunswick is offline.
[10:24] Mizou Vavoom: where does it land atm?
[10:24] Cathy Sabre: It was a freak incident, I'm sure.
[10:24] Delia Lake: I haven't had any visitors like that in the past few months. last autumn I had a guy who liked my nfs land and decided to log on and off from my yard. that has happened off and on to me
[10:24] Delia Lake: for years
[10:25] Mizou Vavoom: oh?
[10:25] Delia Lake: not the same guy of course
[10:25] Sylvia Tamalyn: maybe we can each come up with a list of proposed changes for next time.. LMs to move or remove
[10:25] Mizou Vavoom: I am not sure who can change lanbding points? EM?
[10:26] Mizou Vavoom: yes good idea Sylvia
[10:26] Sylvia Tamalyn: i believe we can, yes
[10:26] Delia Lake: one good spot and then with the hub that Tor bought maybe have other spots of interest in the hub
[10:26] Delia Lake: for each region
[10:26] Mizou Vavoom: the hub with the red arrows?
[10:27] Delia Lake: I bought it but haven't really used it. looking
[10:27] Delia Lake: put it on the agenda for next time Mizou
[10:27] Delia Lake: I'll test it before then
[10:27] Mizou Vavoom: ok great
[10:27] Sylvia Tamalyn: we need to see how the ads work; i've never placed one. it may be that rudeen is the only one to change them, now that i think about it
[10:27] Mizou Vavoom: Cathy could you do todays minutes please?
[10:27] Delia Lake: Tor can place ads
[10:28] Cathy Sabre: Yes, of course.
[10:28] Sylvia Tamalyn: i mean "show in search"
[10:28] Mizou Vavoom: thnaks Cathy
[10:28] Sylvia Tamalyn: that's what we are discussing (i think?)
[10:28] Sylvia Tamalyn: i can't access that option on this parcel, for example
[10:28] Delia Lake: I think Tor has done that but not sure
[10:28] Mizou Vavoom: I really need to go back to RL in next few minutes to have dinner before the class
[10:29] Sylvia Tamalyn: ok we can check with sudane on that access :)
[10:29] Delia Lake: bye Mizou
[10:30] Delia Lake: we can keep talking but this is the end of our formal meeting

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