Board Meeting 20th February 2010 - Transcript

[Moon Adamant]

[9:15] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:15] Moon Adamant: 9.15
[9:15] Moon Adamant: let's start
[9:15] Moon Adamant: everyone, you already know this
[9:15] Moon Adamant: this meeting is transcripted from now on
[9:15] Moon Adamant: the calling to meeting is on that white box
[9:15] Moon Adamant: only point in agenda is the election of the Secretary
[9:15] Moon Adamant: of the board
[9:16] Moon Adamant: as you know this role must be elected following all general elections of the CDS
[9:16] Moon Adamant: a call for runners-up was issued with sufficient advance...
[9:16] Rose Springvale: candidates
[9:16] Moon Adamant: specially when considering that nobody applied
[9:17] Rose Springvale: runners up would be the also ran people
[9:17] Moon Adamant: thanks, you're right
[9:17] Moon Adamant: though
[9:17] Moon Adamant: in fact
[9:17] Moon Adamant: no one has applied
[9:17] Rose Springvale: Moon?
[9:17] Moon Adamant: yes?
[9:18] Rose Springvale: are you willing to serve again?
[9:18] Moon Adamant: i'll call again for candidates too
[9:18] Moon Adamant: hmmm, do i have a choice?
[9:18] Arria Perreault:
[9:18] Sudane Erato: hehe
[9:18] Rose Springvale: then i respectfully nominate Moon Adamant
[9:18] Moon Adamant: thanks Rose...
[9:18] Rose Springvale: (loves to do that )
[9:18] Sudane Erato: second!
[9:18] Moon Adamant: but please
[9:18] Moon Adamant: does anyone want to apply?
[9:19] Rose Springvale looks around...
[9:19] Rose Springvale sees no one raising hand...
[9:19] Moon Adamant: ok...
[9:19] Moon Adamant: we have quorum for vote
[9:19] Moon Adamant: so...
[9:20] Moon Adamant: everyone supporting moon Adamant continuing to serve as Secretary of this Board, please say Aye
[9:20] Arria Perreault: aye
[9:20] Lilith Ivory: aye
[9:20] Rose Springvale: aye!
[9:20] Sudane Erato: aye!... me!... yes!
[9:20] Moon Adamant: lol
[9:20] Moon Adamant: Caesar, you are a citizen and entitled to vote
[9:21] Moon Adamant: hmmm i'll cast my vote, Caesar seems afk
[9:21] Moon Adamant: we can later record it
[9:22] Moon Adamant: i abstain
[9:22] Rose Springvale: lol
[9:22] Moon Adamant: but the motion passes
[9:22] Rose Springvale: yay!!
[9:22] Rose Springvale: congratulations!
[9:22] Moon Adamant: thank you all
[9:22] Moon Adamant: lol
[9:22] Lilith Ivory: congrats Moon
[9:22] Arria Perreault: congratulations
[9:22] Sudane Erato: yaya Moon@!
[9:22] Moon Adamant: ok hmmmm
[9:22] Free Radar HUD v1.1 by Crystal Gadgets
[9:22] Moon Adamant: well, as you all know
[9:22] Ceasar Xigalia: aye
[9:22] Rose Springvale: yay ceasar !
[9:23] Ceasar Xigalia: sorry crashed
[9:23] Moon Adamant: this last term, the Guild basically just concerned with the Schloss project
[9:23] Moon Adamant: thanks Caesar, your vote will be recorded
[9:23] Moon Adamant: and wb
[9:23] Moon Adamant: even so, the project is stalled mid-way
[9:23] Moon Adamant: this is entirely my fault
[9:23] Ceasar Xigalia: apologies i must go now
[9:23] Moon Adamant: surely, thanks for showing by!
[9:23] Arria Perreault: bye Caesar
[9:24] Lilith Ivory: bye
[9:24] Rose Springvale: thanks for coming Caesar
[9:24] Ceasar Xigalia: bye all
[9:24] Moon Adamant: bye
[9:24] Ceasar Xigalia: congrats Moon
[9:24] Moon Adamant: thanks
[9:24] Moon Adamant: so
[9:24] Moon Adamant: for this term
[9:24] Moon Adamant: we'll try to finish it
[9:25] Moon Adamant: and also try to finally get the GMP updated
[9:25] Moon Adamant: in that i am also to blame, though i am having a tech issue there, because my info about it was in a software i lost
[9:25] Sudane Erato: oh dear
[9:25] Arria Perreault: too bad
[9:26] Moon Adamant: but last week i found out that Autodesk now supplies an online service - i'll try to see if my files open with it
[9:26] Moon Adamant: for the rest
[9:27] Moon Adamant: i can only offer as an explanation the fact that since early december i have been having issues with my spinal column and wrist, which don't let me sit at the computer for so many hours in a row
[9:27] Moon Adamant: either typing or mouse
[9:27] Rose Springvale: Moon, no one is upset with you
[9:27] Sudane Erato: excuses excuses...
[9:27] Moon Adamant: but hopefully the spring will be better
[9:27] Rose Springvale: lol
[9:27] Rose Springvale: well, maybe sudane
[9:27] Moon Adamant: if you aren't that's solely due to your generosity
[9:27] Arria Perreault: yes, you don't have to apologize
[9:28] Moon Adamant: i feel an explanation is needed
[9:28] Moon Adamant: in any case
[9:28] Moon Adamant: LL will be reviewing the land policy this year... namely the grandfathering when buying land, etc
[9:29] Moon Adamant: at least in case of an expansion, these issues must be analysed
[9:29] Moon Adamant: i am not sure myself yet of the implications, but Sudane can explain them if someone would like to know
[9:29] Arria Perreault: yes, I am curious to know
[9:29] Moon Adamant: ok... Sudane... can you please explain what LL has announced?
[9:30] Sudane Erato: well
[9:30] Sudane Erato: last year Jack Linden announced that the granfathered rates... which we use for NFS, CN and Monastery... will remain until this june, 2010
[9:30] Sudane Erato: last week..
[9:31] Sudane Erato: he announced that those rates will be extended until the end of this year.... BUT
[9:31] Sudane Erato: big but
[9:31] Sudane Erato: previously, if a sim had grandfathered rates... in the case of a full sim 195 instead of 295/month
[9:32] Sudane Erato: and we bought that sim
[9:32] Sudane Erato: then the rates would still be the 195
[9:32] Sudane Erato: however
[9:32] Sudane Erato: after May 1 that will no longer be the case
[9:32] Sudane Erato: if a grandfathered sim is transfered to a new onwer after May 1
[9:33] Sudane Erato: it loses its grandfathered arate, and becomes full rate
[9:33] Moon Adamant: and if i understand that well, we are not sure that in 2011 all our sims won't start paying the full rate, right?
[9:33] Sudane Erato: like i said, Jack extended the garndfathered rates until the end of the year
[9:33] Sudane Erato: he has extended them a number of times
[9:34] Sudane Erato: whio knows what will happen this time?
[9:34] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:34] Moon Adamant: in any case
[9:34] Arria Perreault: thank you
[9:34] Rose Springvale: Sudane?
[9:34] Sudane Erato: yes?
[9:34] Rose Springvale: have we ever bought a sim on the secondary market?
[9:34] Moon Adamant: it's very doubtful that by May we have a sim project... we don't even know if it is the will of the CDS to have it
[9:34] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:34] Sudane Erato: both CN and Monastery were bought there
[9:35] Rose Springvale: ah, okay
[9:35] Moon Adamant: ok, so that's for expansion issues
[9:35] Moon Adamant: in any case, the GMP has a bit of a priority there
[9:35] Moon Adamant: and we can surely use a lull to complete the thing
[9:36] Rose Springvale raises hand
[9:36] Moon Adamant: as for smaller projects
[9:36] Moon Adamant: yes?
[9:36] Rose Springvale: we might want to revisit expansion issues ... Al Andalus is full and has a waiting list
[9:36] Moon Adamant: hmmmm ok
[9:36] Rose Springvale: when Delia opens her skyboxes, that will open 6 parcels, but very limited
[9:37] Moon Adamant: but i would have to know how would the Guild operate in the AA scope
[9:37] Rose Springvale: well, AA is part of CDS
[9:37] Moon Adamant: but doe sthe Guild have jurisdiction?
[9:37] Moon Adamant: i know i shouldn't be asking this lol
[9:37] Sudane Erato: can what Delia has done be done as well on the other underutilized AA sim(s)
[9:37] Moon Adamant: i should be better informed
[9:38] Arria Perreault: are the people on the waiting list interested to have land in an other sim?
[9:38] Moon Adamant: and both questions are good
[9:38] Rose Springvale: no, Arria, they want to be in AA, Believe me, i've tried
[9:38] Rose Springvale: underutilized?
[9:38] Arria Perreault: ok
[9:38] Sudane Erato: the sim north of CN?
[9:38] Rose Springvale: i'm sorry, the water sim?
[9:38] Sudane Erato: sorry... i can never remember names
[9:38] Moon Adamant: Almunecar
[9:38] Rose Springvale: that's just a homestead
[9:39] Sudane Erato: and the one in the NE corner?
[9:39] Rose Springvale: sacromonte is also a homestead
[9:39] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:39] Rose Springvale: so delias project won't work there
[9:39] Sudane Erato: i see
[9:39] Rose Springvale: she's talking about 1000 Prim parcels
[9:39] Sudane Erato: i see
[9:39] Rose Springvale: i have a couple of people working on projects for Sacromonte
[9:39] Rose Springvale: and Almunecar is rented for prims
[9:39] Rose Springvale: which is good for us as it retains our water
[9:40] Moon Adamant: GMP will have to list the type of sims too
[9:40] Sudane Erato: "rented for prims"?
[9:40] Sudane Erato: where can they be used but on that sim?
[9:40] Rose Springvale: Marino uses the sky as a workshop and pays us to use that area
[9:40] Sudane Erato: i see
[9:40] Rose Springvale: but leaves the surface open for us
[9:40] Moon Adamant: yes, a rental sandbox
[9:40] Lilith Ivory: great idea
[9:41] Moon Adamant: i agree
[9:41] Moon Adamant: ok... so
[9:41] Moon Adamant: in terms of expansion then
[9:41] Moon Adamant: we would need to look into an AA expansion
[9:42] Moon Adamant: while at the same time preparing NFS-E expansion
[9:42] Moon Adamant: we'll see
[9:42] Rose Springvale: or maybe something that would help transition both... east of AM perhaps? (is that right east? next to garnata diagonal from CN and next to AM)
[9:42] Moon Adamant: btw, is it only me, or do you see a funny contraction of words with ex- on them?
[9:42] Rose Springvale: just you
[9:43] Moon Adamant: hmmm not impossible
[9:43] Rose Springvale: do the sierra nevadas and the alps meet anyplace? lol
[9:43] Moon Adamant: but NFS-E will always rule, the relief of AM-E has to be subject to it
[9:43] Arria Perreault: not really
[9:44] Moon Adamant: i really have to try the autodesk online product...
[9:44] Moon Adamant: and lol, no
[9:44] Arria Perreault: Pyrénées in between
[9:44] Moon Adamant: you have the Pyrenees in between
[9:44] Lilith Ivory: maybe the pyrenees
[9:44] Rose Springvale: nfs E will always rule?
[9:44] Arria Perreault: Pays Basque
[9:44] Moon Adamant: rule the relief
[9:44] Rose Springvale: hmm
[9:44] Rose Springvale: delias sim is Basque
[9:44] Arria Perreault: nice
[9:45] Rose Springvale: i suppose sacromonte could morph to that
[9:45] Lilith Ivory: great
[9:45] Moon Adamant: cantabrian area, yes
[9:45] Rose Springvale: but sort of limits AA theme then.
[9:45] Rose Springvale: and really so much we could do with southern spain. We still dont' have gibraltor
[9:45] Rose Springvale: sounds like the GMP needs to consider all of that
[9:46] Rose Springvale: but i do think saying NFS E rules, gives priority to one project over the other
[9:46] Arria Perreault: I have to go
[9:46] Arria Perreault: bye bye
[9:46] Lilith Ivory: bye Arria
[9:46] Moon Adamant: bye Arria, thanks
[9:47] Moon Adamant: Rose, what's happening is that NFS-E relief needs to be carefully considered
[9:47] Moon Adamant: namely so that we're able to make AM-E less steep if possible
[9:47] Rose Springvale: but so do the rest of them...
[9:47] Moon Adamant: but the study of both can be done together
[9:48] Moon Adamant: well, you don't have so much of an issue in these terms for example in the AA territory
[9:48] Lilith Ivory: wouldn´t it be smart to grab a grandfathered Sim before May?
[9:48] Moon Adamant: have no idea, that's for Sudane to answer
[9:49] Sudane Erato: well, except that the savings may last us only to Dec
[9:49] Rose Springvale: and the cost of grandfathers sims is generally higher than regular ones
[9:49] Sudane Erato: but, yes, worth considering
[9:49] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:49] Moon Adamant: in any case... that's a decision for the RA to take, not here
[9:49] Sudane Erato: although I think now less so
[9:50] Moon Adamant: smaller projects
[9:50] Rose Springvale: i saw one that was asking 1875 the other day
[9:50] Sudane Erato: god
[9:50] Moon Adamant: let's try and see if we get a move on with the schloss
[9:50] Rose Springvale: couldn't make up the difference even with the grandfather fees unless it is extended
[9:50] Sudane Erato: yes, the schloss would be great
[9:50] Moon Adamant: though we have an issue now with the Content Archivist
[9:51] Sudane Erato: we've always had an issue with a Content Archivist
[9:51] Moon Adamant: i don't know who has replaced, if anybody did, Aliasi on that role
[9:51] Rose Springvale: we can use Minerva...
[9:51] Moon Adamant: who is Minerva?
[9:51] Sudane Erato: she owns the AA sims
[9:51] Rose Springvale: Minerva is an avatar i made to archive prims with... no
[9:51] Rose Springvale: she doen'st own anything yet
[9:51] Moon Adamant: hmmmm
[9:52] Rose Springvale: she is to hold the buildings and such
[9:52] Rose Springvale: AA sims are still owned by VDI, with me as the avatar
[9:52] Sudane Erato: ahh
[9:52] Moon Adamant: well, when this was discussed, it was deemed advisable that Rudeen wouldn't be the CA
[9:52] Sudane Erato: didn't i get a payment from Minerva?
[9:52] Rose Springvale: no
[9:52] Moon Adamant: so the same would apply to the avs for AA~
[9:52] Sudane Erato: no, Rudeen should not be
[9:52] Rose Springvale: you paid minerva
[9:53] Sudane Erato: for the LL tier... ok
[9:53] Rose Springvale: and then i had to have her pay me, as her limits weren't high enough
[9:53] Sudane Erato: the limits are a royal pain
[9:53] Rose Springvale: Minerva is something Jamie wants, where people who need to have access to replacement builds can go
[9:53] Moon Adamant: well, that's what the CA should be
[9:54] Rose Springvale: so she's available
[9:54] Rose Springvale: and jamie and sudane both have her log in info
[9:54] Moon Adamant: for RA to discuss
[9:54] Moon Adamant: anyone here a Rep?
[9:54] Rose Springvale: lilith
[9:54] Lilith Ivory: yup
[9:54] Moon Adamant: ok, Lil, you're aware now lol
[9:54] Lilith Ivory: hehe I try hard
[9:55] Rose Springvale: really
[9:55] Moon Adamant: our issue with the existence of a CA is the backup issue
[9:55] Lilith Ivory: top bad bosswoman had to go ,-)
[9:55] Moon Adamant: ahahahah
[9:55] Sudane Erato: hehe
[9:55] Rose Springvale: i think the ca should be under the chancellor's control, as that's who people go to for replacements
[9:55] Moon Adamant: hmmmm, possibly
[9:55] Rose Springvale: and having a separate human just delays everythign
[9:55] Sudane Erato: yes, i agree...
[9:55] Rose Springvale: look how long it took to replace Jayme's house
[9:55] Moon Adamant: i can't remember the legislation for CA
[9:56] Sudane Erato: but the RA should probably authorize the whole procedure
[9:56] Lilith Ivory: I see
[9:56] Rose Springvale: yes, and i think there should be plenty of back up people with log in info
[9:56] Moon Adamant: that's it, really - there's a legislation for the CA, see
[9:56] Rose Springvale: maybe a chain of cmmand
[9:56] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:56] Rose Springvale: command*
[9:56] Moon Adamant: but again, that's for RA
[9:56] Moon Adamant: any changes must imply a change on that text
[9:56] Moon Adamant: ok...
[9:57] Moon Adamant: so, to wrap this
[9:57] Moon Adamant: the Secretary will try to be more diligent this term
[9:58] Rose Springvale: smile
[9:58] Moon Adamant: and hopefully we can make some preparations to whatever the rA decides to do in terms of expansion, etc
[9:58] Rose Springvale: Realistically
[9:58] Moon Adamant: while checking to see what we can do in terms of pointed intervention
[9:58] Rose Springvale: there are only about 5 meetings before may
[9:58] Moon Adamant: hmmm ok
[9:58] Rose Springvale: cant' see them authorizing expansion lol
[9:59] Moon Adamant: well, let's see what we can do in terms of preparation then
[9:59] Rose Springvale: unless this RA is different from the past few
[9:59] Moon Adamant: then the next RA can decide
[9:59] Lilith Ivory: can´t Sudane come and tell the RA about the Linden policy?
[9:59] Lilith Ivory: maybe this would speed us up hehe
[9:59] Moon Adamant: noooo, we have work to do before that lol
[9:59] Sudane Erato: sure i can... but its very simple really
[10:00] Rose Springvale: let's see what happens tomorrow
[10:00] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:00] Moon Adamant: last issue
[10:00] Moon Adamant: lagging, sorry
[10:01] Moon Adamant: for the rest of the term
[10:01] Moon Adamant: i propose that we keep this schedule for meetings
[10:01] Moon Adamant: seeing that Sundays are always taken
[10:01] Rose Springvale: sigh
[10:02] Moon Adamant: mind you Rose, we won't have meetings every saturday
[10:02] Moon Adamant: and in May, maybe the new RA reconvenes at a better schedule for us
[10:02] Moon Adamant: we'll see
[10:02] Rose Springvale: well, i will tell you that it is noon on saturday for me... so i won't be making many. too much to do
[10:02] Moon Adamant: sure, np at all
[10:02] Rose Springvale: would rather have a weekday
[10:02] Moon Adamant: hmmmm
[10:03] Rose Springvale: or go back to sunday at the alternate time of RA
[10:03] Rose Springvale: maybe earlier
[10:03] Lilith Ivory: I´d be fine with a weekday also
[10:03] Moon Adamant: weekdays are a bit full atm for me
[10:03] Moon Adamant: it would have to be Tues or Thurs, near 3 PM SLT
[10:03] Sudane Erato: yes, for me too
[10:03] Lilith Ivory: for me its hard to have more than one meeting on sunday
[10:04] Moon Adamant: exactly, for me too atm
[10:04] Sudane Erato: I can't get away from RL before 3 PM SLT
[10:04] Lilith Ivory: 3pm workes for me also
[10:04] Moon Adamant: maybe we can Googlebuzz ,)
[10:04] Rose Springvale: ewwww
[10:04] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:04] Moon Adamant: well, let's do this
[10:04] Rose Springvale: have they fixed the privacy leaks on that?
[10:05] Moon Adamant: i'll keep in mind the possibility of Tues and Thurs at 3PM
[10:05] Rose Springvale: k, thanks
[10:05] Moon Adamant: and when we have a meeting, i'll sound people
[10:05] Lilith Ivory: thurs would work better for me
[10:05] Moon Adamant: and Rose, no idea, haven't been there
[10:05] Rose Springvale: was a pain to disable it
[10:05] Moon Adamant: ok ladies
[10:06] Moon Adamant: are we good?
[10:06] Rose Springvale: move to adjourn/
[10:06] Rose Springvale: ?
[10:06] Sudane Erato: i'm always good
[10:06] Moon Adamant: second
[10:06] Rose Springvale: smile
[10:06] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[10:06] Rose Springvale: congrats Moon!
[10:06] Moon Adamant: can we adjourn? all agreeing, say Aye
[10:06] Rose Springvale: aye
[10:06] Lilith Ivory: aye
[10:06] Sudane Erato: aye!
[10:06] Moon Adamant: eheheh thanks Rose
[10:06] Moon Adamant: and aye as well
[10:06] Moon Adamant: tyhanks all
[10:07] Sudane Erato: ty all!
[10:07] Moon Adamant: copying the transcript now...