SL20B / CDS20B Event Organisation Meeting 2023-01-07

[Agatha Macbeth]

Moon Adamant: SL20B will be in June (date TBD)
Moon Adamant: and then next year we turn 20 too
Moon Adamant: proposal so far is that we celebrate Oktoberfest '23 -> Oktoberfest '24
Tor Karlsvalt nods
Second Life: Tor Karlsvalt gave you SL19B Exhibitor Rules and Build Guidelines.
Agatha Macbeth: Thanks
Lilith Ivory: ty Tor
Moon Adamant: so we can do SL20B in June '23 but already envisioning that we'll have a cycle of celebs starting in October
Tori Landau: thank you
Tor Karlsvalt: That was for last year, but I don't expect the rules to change or by much
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
Moon Adamant: thanks
Moon Adamant: yes, we generally participate in the SL Birthday thingy
Moon Adamant: so the proposal is that we participate again
Moon Adamant: (we have people in the SLB group so we'll know when the call is up)
Moon Adamant: but last years we had almost not time for preparing stuff
Moon Adamant: now, SLB generally has a theme
Moon Adamant: but considering that last year we had a giant ballerina slipper behind our spot
Moon Adamant: and a Brazilian Commandos tent and vehicles in front
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Tor Karlsvalt: I think last year they were a bit loose on the theme.
Tori Landau: i know, it's very annoying when stick to the theme and then...
Lilith Ivory: we never cared much about the theme in the past
Moon Adamant: i propose that we ignore LL's suggestion for a theme and start thinking now how best we can show our community
Moon Adamant: also
Agatha Macbeth: Good plan
Tori Landau: agree
Mizou Vavoom agrees
Tor Karlsvalt: Usually you can tweak a poster or something and due proper homage to the theme.
Moon Adamant: we are teh oldest democracy in SL, and that's a sort of automatic theme for us ㋡
Moon Adamant: indeed Tor
Moon Adamant: so what do you all think?
Agatha Macbeth: So far so good
Tor Karlsvalt: They usually have some theme that can be broadly interpreted.
Tor Karlsvalt: Sounds good
Moon Adamant: indeed about a broad theme
Tori Landau: Agree and yes, it can fit whatever the theme is
Tor Karlsvalt: From that you can get history, community, and other themes they have used
Moon Adamant: yes
Moon Adamant: ok hmm
Moon Adamant: so we can agree that we have an overall theme that is 'democratic community'?
Lilith Ivory: sounds good for me
Agatha Macbeth: Works for me
Moon Adamant: ok
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, works
Moon Adamant: then when there is a SLB theme we can see how we add it to our presence
Tor Karlsvalt nods
Mizou Vavoom: yes agreed with theme
Sandy Burgess: I have no idea how to show that but I am in
Moon Adamant: ok, Tor, last year our plot was 2048 sq.m., right?
Tor Karlsvalt: I think so. Let me check
Tori Landau: Agree... excuse my slowness - I'm reminded of the exhibition in the MoCA
Tor Karlsvalt: We had one of the larger ones.
Tori Landau: coming of age etc
Moon Adamant: good point Tori
Tor Karlsvalt: I think being a frequent participant helped, but also I think they had more parcels than they used.
Agatha Macbeth: This also helps
Moon Adamant: you also put up our application immediately
Moon Adamant: i recall that
Moon Adamant: we can do that again
Tori Landau: Yes I noticed that too that there were a lot of empty parcels
Second Life: Tor Karlsvalt gave you Exhibitors Acceptance and Welcome to SL19B - 2048 parcel.
Moon Adamant: thanks Tor
Tor Karlsvalt: In past years it had been a smaller parcel.
Moon Adamant: we had a 2048 m2 parcel, 32x64m parcel, with corresponding prim allotment
Moon Adamant: so we'll try and get the same or close enough
Moon Adamant: ok, we're going good here ㋡
Agatha Macbeth: Woot
Moon Adamant: so now the trickier bit
Agatha Macbeth: Uh oh
Moon Adamant: As Sandy so well put it, how do we show our theme? ㋡
Tor Karlsvalt: I think my internet is geting sketchy
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Moon Adamant: lol Tor
Tori Landau: grins
Moon Adamant: 'can't hear you guys... bzzz bzzz', right? ㋡
Lilith Ivory listens to the sound of silence
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Agatha Macbeth swats a wasp
Lilith Ivory: what about rebuilding the RA chambers?
Moon Adamant: ok, what RA chambers?
Tor Karlsvalt: That could work
Tor Karlsvalt: We did the Rathaus one year.
Lilith Ivory: room where the RA meets
Sandy Burgess: We could make a great election urn ... or we could make a house that has you run through some application forms like government stuff driving people mad ... like in "Asterix in Rome"
Agatha Macbeth: We could certainly do with rebuilding the benches :p
Moon Adamant: yes lol, but which? ㋡
Tor Karlsvalt: We have never done the Preatorium
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Tor Karlsvalt: Maybe the barbarians coming over the wall
Moon Adamant: if we go through either setting the praetorium or the rathaus there
Lilith Ivory imagines an animesh ceasar with daggers in his back
Agatha Macbeth: Et tu Brute
Moon Adamant: it is actually very good because we already have them ㋡
Tori Landau: could maybe have some mesh NPCs in it debating - they could be clicked on to tell information
Moon Adamant: so we are saving work ㋡
Moon Adamant: oh Tori
Tori Landau: lol - though maybe not a Cesar
Lilith Ivory: that actually a very good idea
Tor Karlsvalt: Technically the Rataus might be off limits since we used it already
Mizou Vavoom: yes that is right Tor
Lilith Ivory: well, we have used the same ole fachwerk again and again in the past years
Tori Landau: true
Moon Adamant: ok
Moon Adamant: i like this idea because
Moon Adamant: oh Rosie is online
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Rosie Gray entered chat range (3.72 m).
Lilith Ivory: hi Rosie
Moon Adamant: there she is ㋡
Moon Adamant: hi Rosie ㋡
Tori Landau: Hi Rosie!
Mizou Vavoom: Hi Rosie!
Rosie Gray: hi everyone, and thanks Mizou ㋡
Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Rosie
Lilith Ivory: we appointed you chair while you were not here
Moon Adamant: have a plush chair ㋡
Tor Karlsvalt: lol
Moon Adamant: ahahah
Tor Karlsvalt: unanimous
Tori Landau: lol
Lilith Ivory loves the sound of the espresso machine
Sandy Burgess: Like this: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2pcn3j
We could make people run through a terrible process to apply for citizenship just to tell them that in truth it is quite easy
Sandy Burgess: Video is in German
Second Life: Select residents to share with.
Moon Adamant: ok so Rosie
Second Life: Items successfully shared.
Moon Adamant: oooh i like that Sandy
Sandy Burgess: Hello Rosie
Tor Karlsvalt: true
Rosie Gray: thanks Agatha
Moon Adamant: just let me brief Rosie quickly
Lilith Ivory: hehe yes
Agatha Macbeth: YW
Moon Adamant: and we'll be back to that idea ㋡
Agatha Macbeth: I dropped her a NC
Moon Adamant: oh thanks Agatha ㋡
Tori Landau: We could put up images too to showcase each region - something to entice people to come here
Rosie Gray: sorry to be late
Rosie Gray: are we talking about SLB now?
Tor Karlsvalt: Yeah, I think we should make room for Tori's idea
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Moon Adamant: yes
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe, we usually do have some posters about our regions.
Moon Adamant: ok, about this
Tori Landau: ok
Moon Adamant: i agree it would be good to do some gentle land selling there ㋡
Lilith Ivory: while sorting my inventory I found a "brief" history about how we got founded and think it is extrememly interesting
Lilith Ivory: we should use it too I think
Tori Landau: ooh
Agatha Macbeth: Agreed Moonie
Moon Adamant: but not sure if we can't bring it all together
Mizou Vavoom: But we are not allowed to sell anything at SLB
Second Life: Lilith Ivory gave you A brief history of the CDS in Anzere.
Agatha Macbeth: Thanks Lil
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL, Gwyn wrote the "brief" history for SLBX
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe long time ago
Moon Adamant: that's why I said gentle ㋡
Moon Adamant: we can show our territory
Moon Adamant: and have TPs
Tor Karlsvalt: We will need a free gift tho
Moon Adamant: we cannot have a Casper vendor
Moon Adamant: but
Moon Adamant: i think that hmmm
Moon Adamant: well, wouldn't you rather visit the place
Moon Adamant: after you are told
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Moon Adamant: 'joke! it's super easy to become a citizen! Come and visit us!'
Moon Adamant: ?
Tori Landau: the owl is the symbol I think of for CDS so maybe a gift using that - I think I have an owl t-shirt from CDS at VWEC
Tor Karlsvalt: We can give out a freebee but we also need a gift for that big gift pavilion.
Rosie Gray: last year I placed the old stein I made back in 2014 as a gift
Tor Karlsvalt: Some exhibitors gave some super stuff.
Mizou Vavoom: What kind of gift are they looking for ?
Rosie Gray: I could make a new one for that
Tor Karlsvalt: That would be good.
Moon Adamant: ok, that's actually a discussion that we will need to extend to the CDS20B thing
Lilith Ivory: we could call citizens to offer gifts for a CDS gift bag
Rosie Gray: the gifts were all kinds of things, as I recall
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, some were really good.
Rosie Gray: yes, and they offered up to 3 spaces for gifts
Moon Adamant: why not get a gift that says 'oktoberfest 2023 -- celebrating 20 years of democracy in SL'?
Mizou Vavoom: oh yes!
Tor Karlsvalt: And their might have been 100 gift pedestals
Rosie Gray: yes, that's what I was thinking for the bierstein
Moon Adamant: with a LM
Moon Adamant: link to our website, flickr, FB, etc
Sandy Burgess: And a beer jar that can tp you
Lilith Ivory: heheh
Rosie Gray: can't do that, I think
Tori Landau: ooh yes can we do that within SLB rules ok? I remember they are quite strict
Lilith Ivory: one with RLV that does not allow you to leave befor you bought a parcel
Rosie Gray: lol
Tori Landau: lol
Mizou Vavoom: lol
Moon Adamant:
Sandy Burgess snortchuckles
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
Moon Adamant: ok, so we have one need already established
Moon Adamant: the SL20B Gift
Tor Karlsvalt: Super idea LILith
Rosie Gray: last year the best gifts were things that people could use... otherwise people don't take them
Moon Adamant: that can advertise about our own celbrations
Agatha Macbeth: Good thought
Moon Adamant: ok Rosie, so what could we have?
Lilith Ivory: I have to admit I only took gifts with pictures on the box
Rosie Gray: hmmm, well a t-shirt
Sandy Burgess: It should be resizable. I remember the one I got from last October Fest - it felt like it was bigger than my avatar ... and it was nomod
Lilith Ivory: I can make a shirt if you want
Moon Adamant: ok
Moon Adamant: but the tshirt needs a box so to point to our links and LMs
Lilith Ivory: I have those prefab shirts that come in a lot of sizes
Rosie Gray: yes, of course Moon
Mizou Vavoom: i have some too, for women and men
Rosie Gray: same with the stein
Rosie Gray: why not have two then, one from Lilith and one from Mizou?
Lilith Ivory: why not
Moon Adamant: and we can have more gifts, mind
Rosie Gray: maybe one long sleeved and the other short sleeved... something like that
Rosie Gray: did you decide on a main build?
Mizou Vavoom whispers: yes sure and what would we want pictured on the tshirts?
Moon Adamant: Rosie, it's either the Rathaus or the praetorium
Rosie Gray: think we did the Rathaus already
Rosie Gray: the praetorium is huge though
Mizou Vavoom: the Rathaus we did when Tor was the Chancellor
Moon Adamant: i am not worried much about that, considering we have both builds -- i would just ask you and Mizou if you have them in a rezzer?
Mizou Vavoom: i do but we cannot reuse the Rathaus
Rosie Gray: the praetorium would need adapting to fit
Moon Adamant: ok, so that's a task
Mizou Vavoom: should it not be a new build?
Rosie Gray: like what, Mizou?
Mizou Vavoom has her thinking cap on
Tori Landau: .... I need to refresh my memory on the Praetorium but maybe part of it could be used or a build in the style of it to give the idea?
Mizou Vavoom: Is there a public build that needs redoing?
Moon Adamant: well, we just need the upper room
Moon Adamant: right?
Tor Karlsvalt: 2. Your display should not have any large, purchased elements in their entirety. If you have a purchased store, shelter, house or main structure your Mole Coordinator will review and approve it's use. Combining elements from several different sources is allowed as long as your final display at SL19B is a unique build created by you and/or your building assistants.
Moon Adamant: we are not taking the SC Chambers
Rosie Gray: there's the community centre
Lilith Ivory: I was suggesting the RA chamber as it represents democracy
Rosie Gray: we've never used that... it's about the right size
Moon Adamant: yes, i agree with Lil
Rosie Gray: it does make sense to use the RA chamber
Tor Karlsvalt: I rather like the Praetorium too.
Lilith Ivory: we can just build something new that represents it
Mizou Vavoom: yes as the RA chamber is our democratic centre
Moon Adamant: why not do this
Mizou Vavoom: agreed
Moon Adamant: think backwards here
Tor Karlsvalt: It doesn't have to be exactly the same structure.
Tori Landau: exactly
Tori Landau: I mean, agree
Agatha Macbeth has enough trouble thinking forwards
Moon Adamant: use the fact that we are using the RA chamber
Tori Landau: sorry, bit brain foggy today
Moon Adamant: for the SLB
Moon Adamant: get a copy of our own, alter it (we will need to do that as we will need 4 façades)
Moon Adamant: but thinking that maybe we can then use it?
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, I bet it would be super.
Tori Landau: ok, Anj is here too and has an idea -
Tor Karlsvalt: If we can, put it on a high foundation so it sticks out.
Lilith Ivory: say Anj hi from me
Rosie Gray: it's already on a high foundation
Tori Landau: he was wondering if maybe a table top map of CDS...
Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Anj!
Agatha Macbeth waves to Anj
Mizou Vavoom: Hi anj!
Lilith Ivory: that is a good idea too
Tori Landau: with small push pins representing areas and points of interest\
Rosie Gray waves to Anj
Tor Karlsvalt: Map is good
Tori Landau: which when cliicked
Tor Karlsvalt: History
Tori Landau: open a larger picture
Tori Landau: of the area
Moon Adamant: i am not sure about this as i think it can be a lot of work... I just have this method of thinking backwards to get more ideas going
Tori Landau: on an adjacent board
Moon Adamant: hi Anj ㋡ *waves*
Tor Karlsvalt: Maybe mesh dolls representing RA members and citizens.
Tori Landau: he waves back
Moon Adamant: ok, we have that -- it's behind me
Mizou Vavoom: Istarted making something like that in the Rathaus on the wall
Rosie Gray: I liked those cutouts you did some years ago, Tor
Lilith Ivory: yea I do love the idea of mesh dolls giving info on click
Agatha Macbeth: Do we have an animesh Almut?
Tor Karlsvalt: BTW, we could have a party at the site too
Moon Adamant: ah Tor, yes
Lilith Ivory giggles
Rosie Gray: haha, Agatha
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, those cut outs were nice.
Moon Adamant: that is another thing I am thinking
Tori Landau: or maybe a speech bubble put above their heads with text on them
Tor Karlsvalt: I can't find them
Lilith Ivory: (we would only have to rez a snow suit with helmet
Tor Karlsvalt: grrrr
Rosie Gray: have to remember that LL won't let you have a lot of scripting
Moon Adamant: and that's why i don't want so much to focus on building stuff
Rosie Gray: so not sure about animesh
Tor Karlsvalt: We could do the cutouts
Moon Adamant: but I would like to hold events in our presence
Tori Landau: they don't have to be animesh - maybe just mesh
Tori Landau: static
Tor Karlsvalt: right
Agatha Macbeth nods
Moon Adamant: yes, better go for mesh, as that we are sure we can have
Tori Landau: and speech bubble above means no script
Tor Karlsvalt: Right
Tor Karlsvalt: That would be kinda cute too
Moon Adamant: i am sure we can have simple scripts like Say on Touch, LM givers, group joiners
Lilith Ivory: I am sure too
Tori Landau: and can use buy for free for some things too
Rosie Gray: you can just use a give to anyone on touch too, I think
Moon Adamant: ok
Moon Adamant: so can we agree that we will have a version of the Praetorium Upper Chamber
Tor Karlsvalt: I now we moved on but found this in the rules re builds: Repeated Builds: Please refrain from using a build exhibited at a prior SLB event. The event is a showcase of all that is wonderful in Second Life and repetitive builds take away from the excitement. Try something that exhibits the new growth of your organization or your Second Life.
Moon Adamant: modified, of course, because the existing praetorium does not have 4 façades
Moon Adamant: that inside it we will feature a RA session with mesh people who will provide info on the CDS?
Tor Karlsvalt: I think we are good with the praetorium
Tor Karlsvalt: We could actually have an RA session.
Moon Adamant: oh, possibly
Lilith Ivory: I always wanted to have one at the SLB location
Agatha Macbeth: Art imitating life?
Moon Adamant: but we would need to ask LRA about that
Tori Landau: °͜°
Tor Karlsvalt: Not sure if RA would have to vote on that. I suspect it would of course to change the official venue one time.
Rosie Gray: Mizou, are you into making the mini version of the RA chambers?
Sandy Burgess: We would have to ask the whole RA.
Lilith Ivory: I see the current LRA is online
Lilith Ivory: we could ask her to join us
Rosie Gray: yes do ask her
Moon Adamant: ok
Tor Karlsvalt: Also a party might be good.
Lilith Ivory: if I ask she will sense the trap lol
Mizou Vavoom: sorry was afk back again, yes of course i can build whatever you want
Tor Karlsvalt: Maybe Anj or or Tori
Moon Adamant: mind that the RA Chambers is pretty big
Sandy Burgess: We do have to look at the laws though. They might state that the RA meetings have to take place at a certain place
Moon Adamant: and is half empty, so yes, room for a party
Lilith Ivory: we have to adapt it to the parcel size
Tor Karlsvalt: Well if we get a 2048 we will be good I think
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah
Rosie Gray: yes, we'll have to wait and see how big the parcel is
Tori Landau: yes, either Anj or I could do that - we've both performed at SLB
Moon Adamant: OR
Moon Adamant: build premptively for 32*32, say, and if we get a bigger one make a garden in front
Rosie Gray: I can't think of any law that states where the RA has to meet
Tor Karlsvalt: We could perhaps even sponsor a DJ at one of the bigger venues.
Rosie Gray: I think it's more tradition
Lilith Ivory: right
Moon Adamant: you know that i don't want want to leave everything for the 11th hour as last year
Tori Landau: good idea re size and garden
Agatha Macbeth: Good idea
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah
Tor Karlsvalt: That was stressful
Tor Karlsvalt: But your build really pulled it off, Moon.
Rosie Gray: what would the advantage be to sponsoring a DJ?
Agatha Macbeth:
Rosie Gray: would we get PR out of it?
Tor Karlsvalt: Oh I donno, probably we could have a CDS banner
Tor Karlsvalt: not sure how that works.
Tori Landau: I didn't know that even happened at SLB
Tor Karlsvalt: Tori you might.
Sandy Burgess: That is what I would expect Rosie - at least a banner and the DJ mentioning CDS a few times
Tor Karlsvalt: I think Calli did a gig there one year or several years.
Agatha Macbeth: They do have music yes
Agatha Macbeth: Been to a few
Mizou Vavoom: Sorry everyone, i need to leave to go to a BB class
Moon Adamant: thanks MIzou ㋡
Lilith Ivory: they have a whole series of events at the event locations
Tor Karlsvalt: ok Mizou
Agatha Macbeth: TC Mizou nice to see you
Tor Karlsvalt: Good to see you
Tori Landau: we've done sets as ourselves as it were in the past, not affiliated with anyone
Sandy Burgess: See you Mizou
Tori Landau: had to apply
Tori Landau: Bye Mizou
Lilith Ivory: bye Mizou
Tori Landau: I have to go soon too
Mizou Vavoom: Bye everyone
Tor Karlsvalt: How were those things attended Tori?
Rosie Gray: bye Mizou
Moon Adamant: we'll agree on the next meeting date and we'll post about that
Moon Adamant: guys, sorry sorry
Tor Karlsvalt: ok
Tor Karlsvalt: sounds good tho
Tori Landau: we had a good crowd - some of our own friends plus other people turning up
Moon Adamant: we have 3 DJs at the CDS and a we will have an artist in residence
Agatha Macbeth: Great!
Rosie Gray: 3?
Moon Adamant: Tori, Anj, Calli
Rosie Gray: Tori, Calli... who else?
Tori Landau: yes
Tor Karlsvalt: We can have a party on our parcel but nothing regular and no more than two hours.
Rosie Gray: oh, wasn't thinking that Anj was here ㋡
Tor Karlsvalt: Well he's affiliated.
Rosie Gray nods
Lilith Ivory: is it allowed to have events at our parcel?
Tor Karlsvalt: it is
Moon Adamant: so i don't think we need to get outside talent ㋡
Tor Karlsvalt: but not large regular events
Tori Landau: yes so as to not lag the region
Tor Karlsvalt: 5. Performances: Your exhibit is not to be used as a performance/music/DJ venue for the entirety of the event. Your parcel is not an event venue. Having a party/parties is fine, but scheduling multiple artists/DJs to perform for more than two hours is not acceptable. The use of tipjars by performers or DJs at exhibits is not allowed. This will burden a region with crowds that will make it difficult for other visitors to access other exhibits on the region. If you expect a large crowd, book a performance venue or lecture area for your party or performance.
Moon Adamant: sure, but two hours is more than enough
Tor Karlsvalt: So a party once or twice I suppose would be ok
Moon Adamant: yeah
Agatha Macbeth: But it would need to be in a special place?
Tori Landau: yes and can do one hour sets
Rosie Gray: one hour sets are probably just right
Tor Karlsvalt: I think you need special permission for control of the steam
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, I agree Rosie
Moon Adamant: ok, we can see that then
Sandy Burgess: As I read it you can have one or two parties but if you expect big crowds you need to book one of their party places
Moon Adamant: my main concern is the no tipjar
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah
Agatha Macbeth: Could tip directly
Lilith Ivory: folks can tip the DJ directly
Tor Karlsvalt: true
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Tori Landau: that's a standard rule at SLB - it doesn't worry Anj or me
Tor Karlsvalt: I have don't that when I can't find the tip jar.
Rosie Gray: yes, but I think the idea is that there should be no expectation of it
Sandy Burgess: Many don't tip directly
Tori Landau: excatly, don't DJ for the money
Moon Adamant: ok, I'll ask PIOs about a budget for this, what do you think?
Lilith Ivory: I like that idea
Tor Karlsvalt: I don't think we had to spend too much before.
Sandy Burgess: Sounds good to me so far
Rosie Gray: shouldn't be much in the way of expense
Sandy Burgess: If you need scripting help let me know
Tor Karlsvalt: Builders might want a texture or we can buy some things we don't already have.
Moon Adamant: Sandy, we may, thank you!
Moon Adamant: ok
Tor Karlsvalt: Yes, the music box was scripted and worked very well the entire time.
Moon Adamant: so to add to our resume
Tori Landau: Yes, ask around for anything needed
Tori Landau: °͜°
Tor Karlsvalt: Hey, a mini music box might be a great gift.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes!
Tori Landau: yes
Rosie Gray: oh yes, love that idea
Moon Adamant: we will think about events a our SLB plot, namely showcasing the resident DJs and artists
Moon Adamant: ok, i like that too
Sandy Burgess: One playing the CDS anthem?
Tor Karlsvalt: I think that would be good Moon.
Moon Adamant: uh better not
Moon Adamant: nobody likes it
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL, yes, we need a new choir singing the anthem
Tori Landau: what about the new DJ - the swing music DJ
Lilith Ivory: I love it
Sandy Burgess: If nobody likes it we should get a better one
Agatha Macbeth: That's probably true
Tor Karlsvalt: It might help if we posted the lyrics
Tor Karlsvalt: That might make a good poster
Moon Adamant: RA crowd: it's like the flag ㋡
Moon Adamant: please start the discussion
Tor Karlsvalt: Our country being a new virtual land.
Tori Landau: °͜°
Rosie Gray: I agree that it would be nice to get an updated version of the anthem
Tor Karlsvalt: OH NO! Not another flag
Tori Landau: I'm so sorry but I have to go
Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you
Tor Karlsvalt: see you Tori
Moon Adamant: Tor, read last RA minutes lol
Rosie Gray: bye Tori!
Moon Adamant: See you Tori, thanks!
Lilith Ivory: bye Tori
Tori Landau: One thought though - might want to do it during SLB and/or for CDS 20 and that is to have a quest on the regions
Tor Karlsvalt: I better
Moon Adamant: ah, Tori
Lilith Ivory: I would love to have a hunt in CDS
Moon Adamant: I already have a Parliamentary Owl Hunt ㋡
Moon Adamant: ready to go
Tor Karlsvalt: That would be cool
Tori Landau: hugs all
Tor Karlsvalt: We could hunt for cold coins.
Moon Adamant: hugs!
Moon Adamant: but you will hunt for owls lol
Tor Karlsvalt: I saw that done once.
Tor Karlsvalt: Like pirate treasure
Moon Adamant: and they will give you treasure
Agatha Macbeth: Arr
Tor Karlsvalt: ok, owls
Lilith Ivory remembers they already have a hunt twice a year ... fro RA candidates
Tor Karlsvalt: I was thinking we could mint a coin.
Rosie Gray: lol, Lilith
Tor Karlsvalt: Owl on one side, Lilith on the other.
Sandy Burgess: We could install a bureaucracy hunt through the Rathaus like in the video I posted earlier
Rosie Gray: Moon, what is the owl hunt like?
Tor Karlsvalt: Or maybe the Chancellor
Lilith Ivory: hehehehe
Agatha Macbeth: Hoo knows
Moon Adamant: i can show it later on
Rosie Gray: I have an idea for CDS20B... are we going to talk about that today?
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL @ Lilith hunding for RA candidate
Moon Adamant: can't find the poster
Moon Adamant: oh Rosie
Moon Adamant: about CDS20B
Moon Adamant: give me a minute
Moon Adamant: let me resume the ideas for Gifts till now, first
Moon Adamant: so we have T-shirts (in a box that gives LMs, links, etc); a stein; a music box, music TBD
Moon Adamant: the clickable gifts will hand out links, LMs and advertise #CDS20B
Tor Karlsvalt: ok
Moon Adamant: (this list is not final or exclusive, btw)
Moon Adamant: ok Rosie, please ㋡
Rosie Gray: for CDS20B?
Tor Karlsvalt: Good start.
Moon Adamant: yes
Tor Karlsvalt: I have a question about CDS20B.
Rosie Gray: okay, well Moon as you know I started a project some years ago to display how governments work around the world
Tor Karlsvalt: When do we start the 20th year
Moon Adamant: yes
Tor Karlsvalt: ?
Rosie Gray: I would love to get that going again and add a lot of countries to it
Rosie Gray: but I need help
Tor Karlsvalt: I could see it starting this year in Sept.
Rosie Gray: I think it would make a really interesting and educating centrepiece for display
Tor Karlsvalt: Then Sept 2024 would end it in a big blow out spectacular Oktoberfest.
Moon Adamant: ok, i would LOVE to have that event going
Rosie Gray: would tie in well with our VWEC
Moon Adamant: Tor, just a sec
Moon Adamant: (and yes, those are teh dates!)
Moon Adamant: what help do you need Rosie?
Rosie Gray: well, it's difficult to understand some countries systems... for instance the US
Tor Karlsvalt: So after Oktoberfest 2023, then we can start a string of CDS20B events
Rosie Gray: so if a few people could help with the text, it would be really good
Moon Adamant: ok, i see
Sandy Burgess: My son would be the perfect help for that kind of thing Rosie but he is not yet in SL - I will ask him if he is interested
Moon Adamant: hmmm
Rosie Gray: it has to be simplified enough to make slides with a few diagrams/illustrations
Rosie Gray: oh okay, Sandy
Rosie Gray: I can show what I did already
Moon Adamant: ok, i need to make a point there too
Rosie Gray: I probably need to update the slideshow system itself
Moon Adamant: but then let me first answer Tor
Tor Karlsvalt: nice idea
Lilith Ivory: cool Rosie
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Moon Adamant: Tor, teh dates being considered for CDS20B are Oktoberfest 23 to Oktoberfest 24
Rosie Gray: it's meant to educate people about how our governments work around the world
Moon Adamant: and now to my point about what Rosie is saying
Tor Karlsvalt: ok, good.
Moon Adamant: #1 I would like to have an event like that at the SL20B, btw
Moon Adamant: edu events would be very good as we are showcasing community
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah
Moon Adamant: #2 is that I would really like to have that evet cycle at the CDS
Tor Karlsvalt: and also perhaps our other organizations.
Tor Karlsvalt: The guild for one
Moon Adamant: but I don't think you need to do it all yourself
Tor Karlsvalt: factions could be mentioned.
Tor Karlsvalt: MoCA
Moon Adamant: so i would suggest that you do a call for a group to organize that event
Tor Karlsvalt: Didn't know Canada had a Senate
Rosie Gray: I'm confused by 'event'
Tor Karlsvalt: Learn something new everyday.
Rosie Gray: I was thinking of it as a display
Moon Adamant: ok, but where would you put it?
Tor Karlsvalt: in the praetorium
Rosie Gray: we could use one of our unoccupied buildings
Rosie Gray: or downstairs in the praetorium, sure
Sandy Burgess: Could we put it in the RA building? It is huge and as far as I could see not much of it is used?
Tor Karlsvalt: oh put it here! Sure downstairs
Tor Karlsvalt: maybe even the Rathaus
Moon Adamant: the same thing stands, mind -- you don't have do it all yourself
Lilith Ivory: we can return Gaius book shelfes as those don't work anymore
Rosie Gray: oh I can't do it al lmyself
Moon Adamant: yes, I would say praetorium undercroft
Rosie Gray: it's very time consuming.. first writing the text, because you have to understand it well enough
Rosie Gray: and then making all of the slides
Moon Adamant: and it can become teh base of our future SL Library
Rosie Gray: sure ㋡
Moon Adamant: ok about having a display there
Second Life: A group member named Almut Brunswick gave you RA Meeting Agenda, January 8, 2023, 12 PM SLT.
Sandy Burgess: You could make the slides interactive with links that open websites and stuff
Moon Adamant: but think that you may want to have Gwyn, say, explaining the Portuguese Judicial System
Agatha Macbeth: That would be good
Rosie Gray: that would be great, Sandy
Rosie Gray: maybe you could help with that aspect
Sandy Burgess: I have done that on my own presentation system. Its a bit of work but doable and once it is working it should be reliable ... well as reliable as anything in LSL ...
Rosie Gray: so far I did Canada, Denmark, Mexico... and Gaius did Sandus
Agatha Macbeth: Sandus?
Rosie Gray: Gaius' micro-nation
Sandy Burgess looks puzzled too
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Tor Karlsvalt: Gaius had a micronation.
Sandy Burgess: Where is Sandus?
Agatha Macbeth: An imagi-nation then
Rosie Gray: we should have one for CDS too
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe, yea Agatha
Moon Adamant: yes we should!
Rosie Gray: lol Agatha
Sandy Burgess: We sure should have CDS as an example of a virtual state
Lilith Ivory: yes
Tor Karlsvalt: Moon should have a seat in the G20
Agatha Macbeth sometimes feels like she lives in one of those already
Rosie Gray: hehe
Moon Adamant:
Sandy Burgess: I'm afraid RL is calling. I have to go.
Rosie Gray: bye Sandy
Agatha Macbeth: Be well Sandy
Tor Karlsvalt: See you Sandy
Lilith Ivory: bye Sandy
Sandy Burgess: See you soon
Rosie Gray: ㋡
Moon Adamant: ok, so I'll be back with both of you about this, namely we can set it up at the Praetorium really soon
Lilith Ivory: Rosie, you should ask Tan if she can do Germany - she is way better with that than me
Moon Adamant: see you Sandy, thanks! ㋡
Rosie Gray: okay I will
Rosie Gray: and I need someone to do the US
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, that will be a big headache releaved.
Rosie Gray: I can't understand it well enough, lol
Tor Karlsvalt: relieved
Lilith Ivory looks at Tor
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
Tor Karlsvalt: ok
Rosie Gray looks at Tor too
Moon Adamant: ok, but start with what you already have Rosie
Tor Karlsvalt: But I don't think we understand either after this last week.
Rosie Gray: yes, and maybe with Sandy's help can make the display interactive... I like that
Moon Adamant: because I am sure that when people see some countries are there, they'll offer to help with their own
Moon Adamant: or volunteer Gwyn ㋡
Rosie Gray: yes, good point
Lilith Ivory: hehe
Lilith Ivory: or Tan
Rosie Gray: hehe
Tor Karlsvalt: I remember a video in High School about how a bill becomes law.
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Moon Adamant: ok, but let me also say this
Agatha Macbeth: Must have been fun
Rosie Gray: I just want them all to be simple enough to understand
Rosie Gray: not like a discourse, if you get what I mean
Moon Adamant: now back to general work on celebs AND CDS PR
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, well the Bill Becomes Law thing was a cartoon
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, bacic stuff
Moon Adamant: i would like also that we could do a review of the texts that we have and/*or finish the ones that aren't done yet
Tor Karlsvalt: Not how votes are cast for a Speaker.
Rosie Gray: exactly Tor
Rosie Gray: too much detail
Moon Adamant: as we will need those for both celebs
Tor Karlsvalt: I know one that mystifies me, is the EU
Agatha Macbeth: Think that mystifies everybody
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
Agatha Macbeth: Bit like the UN
Tor Karlsvalt: So just some gasbags that don't do anything.
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe, oops that was the US House
Lilith Ivory: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: The gnomes of Zurich
Moon Adamant: order, please? ㋡
Rosie Gray: guys, I think Moon is trying to make a point
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
Agatha Macbeth listens
Moon Adamant: i am a dead shot with chalk pieces ㋡
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Throw a chair
Tor Karlsvalt: They use white boards now
Tor Karlsvalt: Schools is just so not fun nowadays
Moon Adamant: also, we are thinking of doing a CDS HUD for the CDS20B
Agatha Macbeth: Good idea
Moon Adamant: and we need those texts also as a content for that
Tor Karlsvalt: We could have that full of useful stuff
Rosie Gray: so what texts are you talking about, Moon?
Moon Adamant: well, i haven't been able to see them all
Tor Karlsvalt: LIke from the Gooseberry HUD?
Moon Adamant: this is something i would like to ask for help
Moon Adamant: for example, PIO has texts, website has texts, then tehre's the historic signs texts
Moon Adamant: how can we bring them all together?
Rosie Gray: what text does PIO have?
Moon Adamant: Namely to have less work!
Moon Adamant: well, that's the point. really
Tor Karlsvalt: Maybe we can work on a presentation about this.
Moon Adamant: i don't know how many texts are being handed out
Rosie Gray: are any texts being handed out?
Moon Adamant: when I say handed out, i mean that we have info at our website
Moon Adamant: we have kiosks and hearts and etc
Moon Adamant: we will have historic signs
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL, we also have passport kiosks handing out stuff.
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Rosie Gray: we have the invisible group inviters too
Tor Karlsvalt: Add that to the list
Moon Adamant: they give info too?
Lilith Ivory: and the tierbox hands out notecards when you buy a parcel
Tor Karlsvalt: true
Rosie Gray: then can, but they aren't set up to
Moon Adamant: ok
Rosie Gray: yes, we have tons of information
Moon Adamant: yeah, my point there is too: when we want to put things in the HUD, which will we choose
Rosie Gray: it would be nice perhaps to have a revised 'about the CDS' notecard to give people... and direct them to the extensive document
Moon Adamant: so while this falls under Exec strictly speaking
Moon Adamant: i think teher is space for we at the Celeb Group to say: look, we really would like to give some info on the CDS landscape (as an example)
Moon Adamant: and so Exec could create that, and put in the website, in the HUD, etc
Rosie Gray nods
Rosie Gray: sounds like PIO work to me!
Moon Adamant: for sure
Moon Adamant: but you may want infor that atm the PIO doesn't have
Tor Karlsvalt: I did have those passport notecards.
Tor Karlsvalt: We were using some of that text for something.
Tor Karlsvalt: I think the signs.
Tor Karlsvalt: You want to put all of that in one big document?
Moon Adamant: not one big document
Moon Adamant: but we could do, i think, with having the info coming from one place, to make it easier
Tor Karlsvalt: hmmm
Tor Karlsvalt: like a database?
Moon Adamant: or our website
Tor Karlsvalt: Would make updating easier.
Rosie Gray: would be easy to find if we put everything on the website
Moon Adamant: yes, that's it
Moon Adamant: and as teams change
Tor Karlsvalt: only problem with that is that websites sort of interrupt the virtual world experience.
Tor Karlsvalt: Used to be a thing, maybe not anymore.
Moon Adamant: more than a notecard? ㋡
Rosie Gray: but helpful for administrative purposes
Moon Adamant belongs to the anti-notecard league
Lilith Ivory: hehe
Rosie Gray: lol
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Rosie Gray: I agree about long notecards
Rosie Gray: they are difficult to read
Tor Karlsvalt: One of those backbencher factions.
Rosie Gray: and boring
Moon Adamant: look, you can have objects saying stuff from a web source
Lilith Ivory: if you don't want to get your virtual experience interrupted you can look at the website on your SL TV
Rosie Gray: right, Lilith!
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Moon Adamant: that's how our objects at the the Amiais project work
Agatha Macbeth: What's that?
Moon Adamant: uh
Rosie Gray: it's also nice to have objects 'whisper', if the information isn't too much and doesn't need to be kept
Tor Karlsvalt: We need a field trip
Lilith Ivory: YES!
Rosie Gray: I hate having my inventory filled up by notecards
Agatha Macbeth: You're in the wrong place then Rosie :p
Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
Lilith Ivory: hehe
Rosie Gray: lol
Moon Adamant: anyway, meeting is long enough
Tor Karlsvalt: I was just sticking around for the food that was promised.
Moon Adamant: Agatha, I'll show you the Amiais project later -- it's in Portuguese anyway (so far)
Rosie Gray:
Lilith Ivory: hehe
Lilith Ivory: next time
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Ok
Rosie Gray: I would love to have a tour when you have it translated, Moon
Tor Karlsvalt: Then I have to go to store.
Tor Karlsvalt: yes
Moon Adamant: I hope that happens soon
Lilith Ivory: and I will set up a forum for this group within 24 hours
Moon Adamant: in any case, VWEC is organizing a tour in March
Tor Karlsvalt: We could plan a Guild horseback ride in Amiais
Agatha Macbeth: Let me me know Lil and i can post
Lilith Ivory: I will
Agatha Macbeth: Thanks
Lilith Ivory: just have to find my screw driver first
Moon Adamant: ok, thanks all, we did a lot of owrk today ㋡
Rosie Gray: hehe
Moon Adamant: btw, when should we meet next
Agatha Macbeth: Feel free to screw a driver if you want
Moon Adamant: once a month?
Lilith Ivory giggles
Tor Karlsvalt looks around and remembers this is one of my favorite rooms in SL.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes it is nice
Moon Adamant: and then as we move closer to teh date we can look at the schedule?
Rosie Gray: ㋡
Moon Adamant: ok
Moon Adamant: then let me check calendar
Agatha Macbeth: Monthly seems good
Rosie Gray: might want to grab a date before RA or guild or event does
Agatha Macbeth: As long as we can work around the RA and the LUC
Rosie Gray: or SC, or...
Rosie Gray: LUC
Rosie Gray: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: And that
Lilith Ivory: or LUC as today Moon has stolen our slot already
Tor Karlsvalt: LUC! That is the other group we should mention in our exhibit.
Rosie Gray: yes and tomorrow was stolen by RA from the guild
Lilith Ivory: hehe
Moon Adamant: ok, next meeting set for Sat Feb 4, or in that weekend
Rosie Gray: does this group need to be on a weekend?
Agatha Macbeth makes a note
Moon Adamant: it's already in teh calendar ㋡
Moon Adamant: not for me, it can move to a Thursday, say
Agatha Macbeth: Yes i must remember the calendar...
Moon Adamant: thursdays are always empty
Rosie Gray: maybe for Tor though
Rosie Gray: since he refuses to retire!
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Busy boy
Tor Karlsvalt: Well June 1st for sure.
Moon Adamant: my issue there is that after 4 PM SLT i start to go a bit slow
Rosie Gray: that is late for you, Moon
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Moon Adamant: what would be your earliest hour, Tor?
Agatha Macbeth is slow much of the time anyway
Tor Karlsvalt: you can plan for Thursday
Tor Karlsvalt: Maybe I can swing a long weekend.
Moon Adamant: lol
Moon Adamant: Thu 3pm slt?
Tor Karlsvalt: yeah, that is ok
Agatha Macbeth: That would work for me
Moon Adamant: ok then Agatha
Rosie Gray: me too
Lilith Ivory: what about the others?
Lilith Ivory: Mizou, Sandy? Tori?
Rosie Gray: hmmm, Mizou is always busy
Moon Adamant: oh, sorry, yes
Tor Karlsvalt: BB takes up a lot of her time.
Agatha Macbeth: Tori might have DJ slots
Rosie Gray: but she's at BB on weekends too
Tor Karlsvalt: Do they get paid for all of that work at BB?
Moon Adamant: ok, i'll do this
Tor Karlsvalt: Doodle it?
Moon Adamant: when you set the forum page
Agatha Macbeth: What is BB?
Rosie Gray: they get lots of tips
Rosie Gray: Builders Brewery
Moon Adamant: I'll put a poll in about the best time
Tor Karlsvalt: Builders Brewery
Agatha Macbeth: Ahhh
Lilith Ivory: ok
Moon Adamant: like we did for the CSDF
Tor Karlsvalt: of course, tips
Lilith Ivory: good idea
Agatha Macbeth: Ok Moonie sounds good
Tor Karlsvalt getting hungry
Moon Adamant: ok, temp set for the 4th Feb in any case till we know a better time
Moon Adamant: thanks all ㋡
Lilith Ivory: ok
Rosie Gray: thanks Moon ㋡
Lilith Ivory: yes, thank you
Tor Karlsvalt can't find even a donut here.
Agatha Macbeth: Fair
Lilith Ivory: hehe
Tor Karlsvalt: ok sounds good
Agatha Macbeth: Ask Homer
Lilith Ivory: bye folks
Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
Tor Karlsvalt: see you all later
Rosie Gray: bye everyone ㋡
Moon Adamant: cheers everyone ㋡
Agatha Macbeth: TC