Transcript RA Meeting June 10, 2023

[Jerry McNally]

[2023/06/10 12:07] Lilith Ivory: yes, I call this meeting to order and would like to ask Jerry to swear the oath of office
[2023/06/10 12:07] Jerry McNally: I, Jerry McNally, having been elected as a Member of the Representative Assembly of the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, do solemnly affirm that I will faithfully discharge my duties as such to the best of my ability, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, and that I will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Confederation of Democratic Simulators.
[2023/06/10 12:07] Brooke Brandenburg: (`'•.¸¸(`'•.¸ ♬ ¸.•'´)¸.•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:07] Brooke Brandenburg: ♫(`'•.¸:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:¸.•'´)♫
[2023/06/10 12:07] Brooke Brandenburg: ,.´:* APPLAUSE !!!! *:´.,
[2023/06/10 12:07] Brooke Brandenburg: ☆ (¸.•'´:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:`'•.¸) ☆
[2023/06/10 12:07] Brooke Brandenburg: (¸.•'´(¸.•'´ ♬ ´`'•.¸)`'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:07] Lilith Ivory: hehe you are fast
[2023/06/10 12:07] Moon Adamant: /me applauds!
[2023/06/10 12:07] Almut Brunswick: Hooray, Jerry is on board again!!!
[2023/06/10 12:07] Lilith Ivory: (`'•.(`'•.¸ ¸.•'´).•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:07] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:07] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:07] Lilith Ivory: (¸.•'(¸.•'´ `'•.¸)'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:07] Rosie Gray: yay, Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:07] Tanoujin Milestone: congrats Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *applauds vigorously*!
[2023/06/10 12:07] Almut Brunswick: There is a certain routine on behalf of Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:07] Angelika Courtois: smiles, congratulation
[2023/06/10 12:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: jololahity
[2023/06/10 12:08] Jerry McNally: Thanks everyone, great to be hear again
[2023/06/10 12:08] Brooke Brandenburg: lol
[2023/06/10 12:08] Angelika Courtois: a yodel
[2023/06/10 12:08] Jerry McNally: *here obviously
[2023/06/10 12:08] Jerry McNally: (great start)
[2023/06/10 12:08] Angelika Courtois: thanks Rosie
[2023/06/10 12:08] Lilith Ivory: first agenda item is the election of the Leader of the representative assembly
[2023/06/10 12:08] Lilith Ivory: are there any nominations?
[2023/06/10 12:09] Rosie Gray: I would like to nominate Tanoujin as LRA
[2023/06/10 12:09] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you, Rosie
[2023/06/10 12:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me gasps.
[2023/06/10 12:09] Tanoujin Milestone: I accept
[2023/06/10 12:09] Almut Brunswick: I second the nomination.
[2023/06/10 12:10] Lilith Ivory: if there are no other nominations I move to elect Tanoujin Milestone as LRA
[2023/06/10 12:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *faints*
[2023/06/10 12:10] Tanoujin Milestone: oh, thnk you Almut, much appreciated
[2023/06/10 12:10] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:10] Lilith Ivory: lol and as Almut has already seconded I call the vote
[2023/06/10 12:10] Sandy Burgess: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:10] Rosie Gray: ayw
[2023/06/10 12:10] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:10] Rosie Gray: or aye, even!
[2023/06/10 12:10] Tor Karlsvalt: ♫~~♫~~APPLAUSE~~♫~~♫
[2023/06/10 12:10] Brooke Brandenburg: (`'•.¸¸(`'•.¸ ♬ ¸.•'´)¸.•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:10] Brooke Brandenburg: ♫(`'•.¸:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:¸.•'´)♫
[2023/06/10 12:10] Brooke Brandenburg: ,.´:* APPLAUSE !!!! *:´.,
[2023/06/10 12:10] Brooke Brandenburg: ☆ (¸.•'´:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:`'•.¸) ☆
[2023/06/10 12:10] Brooke Brandenburg: (¸.•'´(¸.•'´ ♬ ´`'•.¸)`'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:10] Lilith Ivory: Motion carries!
[2023/06/10 12:10] Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
[2023/06/10 12:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *applauds vigorously*!
[2023/06/10 12:10] Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
[2023/06/10 12:10] Lilith Ivory: congrats Tan
[2023/06/10 12:10] Brooke Brandenburg: Congrats Tan!
[2023/06/10 12:10] Lilith Ivory: I give the chair over to you now
[2023/06/10 12:10] Moon Adamant: /me applauds! congrats Tan!
[2023/06/10 12:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: congratulations indeed !
[2023/06/10 12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: wow, thank you. I apologiz to Jerry, I had no chance to introduce me to you
[2023/06/10 12:11] Almut Brunswick: Congratulations, Tan!
[2023/06/10 12:11] Angelika Courtois: congratulations
[2023/06/10 12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: so, thanks all for your trust
[2023/06/10 12:11] Lilith Ivory: (`'•.(`'•.¸ ¸.•'´).•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:11] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:11] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:11] Lilith Ivory: (¸.•'(¸.•'´ `'•.¸)'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: fine, Lilith, do I take over?
[2023/06/10 12:12] Lilith Ivory: yes please Tan
[2023/06/10 12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you Lilith
[2023/06/10 12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: Next item: election of Pro Tempore LRA
[2023/06/10 12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: any nominations?
[2023/06/10 12:13] Rosie Gray: I would like to nominate Almut as pro Tempore
[2023/06/10 12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: second
[2023/06/10 12:13] Sandy Burgess: I second that
[2023/06/10 12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: so, please vote
[2023/06/10 12:13] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:13] Rosie Gray: aye
[2023/06/10 12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[2023/06/10 12:13] Sandy Burgess: aye
[2023/06/10 12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: congrats Almut
[2023/06/10 12:13] Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
[2023/06/10 12:13] Almut Brunswick: Aye and thank you all! I'm looking forward for a great teamwork with Tan again!
[2023/06/10 12:13] Tor Karlsvalt: ♫~~♫~~APPLAUSE~~♫~~♫
[2023/06/10 12:13] Rosie Gray: ··•°•··..☺ Applauds! ☺ ..··•°•··..
[2023/06/10 12:13] Lilith Ivory: (`'•.(`'•.¸ ¸.•'´).•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:13] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:13] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:13] Lilith Ivory: (¸.•'(¸.•'´ `'•.¸)'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:13] Brooke Brandenburg: (`'•.¸¸(`'•.¸ ♬ ¸.•'´)¸.•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:13] Brooke Brandenburg: ♫(`'•.¸:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:¸.•'´)♫
[2023/06/10 12:13] Brooke Brandenburg: ,.´:* APPLAUSE !!!! *:´.,
[2023/06/10 12:13] Brooke Brandenburg: ☆ (¸.•'´:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:`'•.¸) ☆
[2023/06/10 12:13] Brooke Brandenburg: (¸.•'´(¸.•'´ ♬ ´`'•.¸)`'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:14] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *applauds vigorously*!
[2023/06/10 12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: very cool!
[2023/06/10 12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: next point the archivist
[2023/06/10 12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: do we have a Volunteer or a nomination?
[2023/06/10 12:14] Sandy Burgess: I nominate Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:14] Rosie Gray: second
[2023/06/10 12:14] Jerry McNally: Well, if no one else wants to do it...
[2023/06/10 12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: fantastic. Please vote
[2023/06/10 12:15] Rosie Gray:
[2023/06/10 12:15] Rosie Gray: aye
[2023/06/10 12:15] Sandy Burgess: aye
[2023/06/10 12:15] Almut Brunswick: Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Aye!
[2023/06/10 12:15] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[2023/06/10 12:15] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:15] Angelika Courtois: smiles
[2023/06/10 12:15] Tanoujin Milestone: congrats Jerry, and thank you very much!
[2023/06/10 12:15] Rosie Gray: ··•°•··..☺ Applauds! ☺ ..··•°•··..
[2023/06/10 12:15] Brooke Brandenburg: (`'•.¸¸(`'•.¸ ♬ ¸.•'´)¸.•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:15] Brooke Brandenburg: ♫(`'•.¸:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:¸.•'´)♫
[2023/06/10 12:15] Brooke Brandenburg: ,.´:* APPLAUSE !!!! *:´.,
[2023/06/10 12:15] Brooke Brandenburg: ☆ (¸.•'´:•.•:*¨*☆☆*¨*:•.•:`'•.¸) ☆
[2023/06/10 12:15] Brooke Brandenburg: (¸.•'´(¸.•'´ ♬ ´`'•.¸)`'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:15] Moon Adamant: congrats Almut and Jerry! *applauds*
[2023/06/10 12:15] Jerry McNally: /me sharpens pencils
[2023/06/10 12:15] Lilith Ivory: (`'•.(`'•.¸ ¸.•'´).•'´)
[2023/06/10 12:15] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:15] Lilith Ivory: APPLAUSE!!!
[2023/06/10 12:15] Lilith Ivory: (¸.•'(¸.•'´ `'•.¸)'•.¸)
[2023/06/10 12:15] Tanoujin Milestone: very nice
[2023/06/10 12:15] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Congrats and thanks for keeping that seat warm, Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: sooo, I guess we should send someone to the LUC
[2023/06/10 12:16] Rosie Gray: what a great team, once again!
[2023/06/10 12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: yes!
[2023/06/10 12:16] Sandy Burgess: Yep - looks good
[2023/06/10 12:16] Almut Brunswick: I nominate Sandy for the LUC
[2023/06/10 12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: who was on the job before?
[2023/06/10 12:16] Rosie Gray: second
[2023/06/10 12:16] Sandy Burgess: I was
[2023/06/10 12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: oh, I surely second that!
[2023/06/10 12:17] Sandy Burgess: What about you Rosie? Any interest?
[2023/06/10 12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: are you fine with that, Sandy?
[2023/06/10 12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: hmhm
[2023/06/10 12:17] Sandy Burgess: I can do that sure
[2023/06/10 12:17] Rosie Gray: you are in, Sandy ㋡
[2023/06/10 12:17] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *chuckles*
[2023/06/10 12:17] Sandy Burgess: Unless Rosie wants to
[2023/06/10 12:17] Rosie Gray: no no
[2023/06/10 12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: great, please vote
[2023/06/10 12:17] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:17] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:17] Sandy Burgess: aye
[2023/06/10 12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: aye!
[2023/06/10 12:17] Rosie Gray: I have done all the jobs before and am happy to take a back seat
[2023/06/10 12:18] Rosie Gray: ayw
[2023/06/10 12:18] Rosie Gray: aye
[2023/06/10 12:18] Tanoujin Milestone: I nominate Rosie for grey eminence
[2023/06/10 12:18] Rosie Gray: lol
[2023/06/10 12:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[2023/06/10 12:18] Sandy Burgess: Oh - a new post ... or an old one made public
[2023/06/10 12:19] Tanoujin Milestone: so, many thanks to Almut who prepared the agenda for today
[2023/06/10 12:19] Tanoujin Milestone: since we already follow the agenda I guess everyone has seen it?
[2023/06/10 12:19] Rosie Gray: yes I have it from the blue box
[2023/06/10 12:19] Almut Brunswick: Oh, my last duty as former LRA to keep the chain closed
[2023/06/10 12:19] Angelika Courtois: I have, yes
[2023/06/10 12:19] Sandy Burgess: I have seen it in the Forum
[2023/06/10 12:19] Tanoujin Milestone: I can post it to chat if there is any desire?
[2023/06/10 12:20] Almut Brunswick: It is in the blue box. Take the top and post it please
[2023/06/10 12:20] Angelika Courtois: I have the NC
[2023/06/10 12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: 2 Administrative Business
2.1 Approval of the Agenda
2.2 Review and approval of the Minutes of the Tenth RA Meeting of the 38th Term, Saturday, May 20, 2023:
https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?t=10395

3 Old Business
3.1 Status Announcement regarding the Proposal to bring the Amiais estate to the VWEC

* Forum thread: https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?t=10394

4 New Business
4.1 Call for the RA's two LUC Citizen Representatives

5 Citizen Concerns
5.1 Noticing heavy Scripts in the CDS Sims

* Brooke Brandenburg reported that Rosie and she were riding on June 8 in our sims and noticed some heavy scripts. She would like to add script usage & management and point out the need to monitor this.

6 RA Member Concerns

7 Announcements

* Calendar: cdsdemocracy.org

8 Next RA meeting (Proposal: Saturday, June 24, 2023, 12 PM SLT)

9 Adjourn

Reminder for all new RA members: Please make sure to have paid your tier according to the Government Official Citizenship Act
[2023/06/10 12:21] Jerry McNally: I feel obliged to point out the typo at 2.2, the last meeting was the 11th, not the 10th, otherwise all good
[2023/06/10 12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: ok, please vote to approve this agenda
[2023/06/10 12:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *snickers*
[2023/06/10 12:21] Rosie Gray: Jerry, of the sharp eyes
[2023/06/10 12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: well, so, approval of the corrected agenda
[2023/06/10 12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: please vote
[2023/06/10 12:21] Rosie Gray: aye
[2023/06/10 12:21] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[2023/06/10 12:21] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:21] Sandy Burgess: aye
[2023/06/10 12:22] Tanoujin Milestone: agenda approved, thank you!
[2023/06/10 12:22] Almut Brunswick: From now on, you need to get accustomed to faultless agendas, Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:22] Tanoujin Milestone: haha!
[2023/06/10 12:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye, written in German.... ㋡
[2023/06/10 12:22] Sandy Burgess: Do you think you can cope with that Jerry?
[2023/06/10 12:22] Angelika Courtois: chuckles
[2023/06/10 12:22] Rosie Gray:
[2023/06/10 12:22] Jerry McNally: we'll see!
[2023/06/10 12:22] Tanoujin Milestone: I will broadcast them in Sütterlin handwriting
[2023/06/10 12:23] Almut Brunswick: We have a majority of native German speakers in this RA, so it could be likely, Gwyn
[2023/06/10 12:23] Rosie Gray: sorry, I do have to go and I apologize once again...
[2023/06/10 12:23] Tanoujin Milestone: let us review the Minutes from May 20
[2023/06/10 12:23] Brooke Brandenburg: take care Rosie
[2023/06/10 12:23] Tanoujin Milestone: see you soon, Rosie!
[2023/06/10 12:23] Jerry McNally: So long Rosie, catch you later
[2023/06/10 12:23] Almut Brunswick: Bye Rosie
[2023/06/10 12:23] Rosie Gray: bye all
[2023/06/10 12:23] Angelika Courtois: bye Rosie
[2023/06/10 12:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Cheers Rosie, take care
[2023/06/10 12:23] Tanoujin Milestone: https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?t=10395
[2023/06/10 12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: I must say, perfect Minutes
[2023/06/10 12:24] Jerry McNally: Thanks
[2023/06/10 12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: any other comments?
[2023/06/10 12:24] Almut Brunswick: Just our standard meanwhile, Tan
[2023/06/10 12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: so please vote to approve the minutes
[2023/06/10 12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[2023/06/10 12:24] Almut Brunswick: No, just to second accepting them as presented.
[2023/06/10 12:24] Sandy Burgess: aye
[2023/06/10 12:24] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:24] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: right, Almut, I am rusty
[2023/06/10 12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: ty for the hand
[2023/06/10 12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: Old business: Status Announcement regarding the Proposal to bring the Amiais estate to the VWEC
[2023/06/10 12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: I guess that is our future swimming pool?
[2023/06/10 12:25] Moon Adamant: /me stands to attention
[2023/06/10 12:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *nods*
[2023/06/10 12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: Moon, please go ahead
[2023/06/10 12:26] Moon Adamant: oh
[2023/06/10 12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: oh, I misunderstood your posture, lol
[2023/06/10 12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: sorry.
[2023/06/10 12:26] Moon Adamant: well, please read what is posted, as it says it all ㋡
[2023/06/10 12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: I guess it is Tor who can tell us something about it?
[2023/06/10 12:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (not yet I think)
[2023/06/10 12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?t=10394
[2023/06/10 12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: I see I have to catch up here
[2023/06/10 12:27] Moon Adamant: i can make a resume if you want?
[2023/06/10 12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: so, I guess we can leave that point now?
[2023/06/10 12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: please, Moon
[2023/06/10 12:28] Moon Adamant: ok, so we decided to make a formal letter about the current status of teh moving of teh Amiais estate next to teh CDS
[2023/06/10 12:28] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, that would be great
[2023/06/10 12:28] Moon Adamant: this was proposed to your approval a few months ago
[2023/06/10 12:28] Moon Adamant: your=RA, last term
[2023/06/10 12:29] Tanoujin Milestone: /me nods
[2023/06/10 12:29] Moon Adamant: and it has found wide support, including from Etopia and VWEC
[2023/06/10 12:29] Tanoujin Milestone: I remember! It is somewhat Tor's baby, right?
[2023/06/10 12:30] Tor Karlsvalt: /me raises hand
[2023/06/10 12:30] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, Tor?
[2023/06/10 12:30] Moon Adamant: the matter has been dragging on, and we decided that a formal statement to all concerned is due
[2023/06/10 12:30] Moon Adamant: /me shuts up
[2023/06/10 12:30] Tor Karlsvalt: At the moment, LL has yet to transfer control of Amiais to a new non-profit.
[2023/06/10 12:31] Tor Karlsvalt: LL is dragging its feet.
[2023/06/10 12:31] Tanoujin Milestone: haha, it is in Lindens' hands...
[2023/06/10 12:31] Tanoujin Milestone: I hope I did not cut you off, Moon
[2023/06/10 12:31] Tor Karlsvalt: The regions still exist, but really nothing can be done until the region ownership is resolved.
[2023/06/10 12:31] Almut Brunswick: Is it something Madori is aware of?
[2023/06/10 12:32] Moon Adamant: no no! all fine!
[2023/06/10 12:32] Tanoujin Milestone: <3
[2023/06/10 12:32] Tor Karlsvalt: Yes, my understanding that Madori is aware.
[2023/06/10 12:32] Tor Karlsvalt: We just have to wait.
[2023/06/10 12:32] Jerry McNally: We've no idea what might be holding it up their end?
[2023/06/10 12:32] Tanoujin Milestone: I think it is time to get rid of the Lindens... in what state is the army?
[2023/06/10 12:33] Brooke Brandenburg: lol
[2023/06/10 12:33] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
[2023/06/10 12:33] Angelika Courtois: grins
[2023/06/10 12:33] Moon Adamant: ㋡
[2023/06/10 12:33] Tanoujin Milestone: okay, thank you for that orientation....
[2023/06/10 12:33] Sandy Burgess: We could try arrange a few skirmishes with Caledon to see what the army state is
[2023/06/10 12:33] Tanoujin Milestone: let me suggest we use that stick and the done format?
[2023/06/10 12:34] Tanoujin Milestone: so, next point
[2023/06/10 12:34] Tor Karlsvalt: /me heard the Caladon army is for sale for tea and cake.
[2023/06/10 12:34] Tanoujin Milestone: lol, Tor
[2023/06/10 12:34] Lilith Ivory: /me takes a stick and gets up to move towards the LL headquarter
[2023/06/10 12:34] Brooke Brandenburg: go Lil!!
[2023/06/10 12:34] Tanoujin Milestone: we could revive the soccer teams
[2023/06/10 12:35] Tanoujin Milestone: now, I see there is new business: Call for the RA's two LUC Citizen Representatives
[2023/06/10 12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: I guess that means we need to find two volunteers from the greater citizenry?
[2023/06/10 12:36] Lilith Ivory: Ms LRA might want to send out a call for candidates
[2023/06/10 12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: good advice
[2023/06/10 12:36] Angelika Courtois: I am too new, sorry
[2023/06/10 12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: /me takes a note
[2023/06/10 12:36] Almut Brunswick: Unless we have here one or two volunteers already
[2023/06/10 12:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me is sure that the high attendance today is because so many citizens want to get nominated by the RA to have fun at the LUC....
[2023/06/10 12:36] Brooke Brandenburg: hehe
[2023/06/10 12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: hehehe
[2023/06/10 12:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me also adds that she's being sarcastic.
[2023/06/10 12:37] Lilith Ivory: hehe, what about: send a note to the LRA if you DON'T want that job?
[2023/06/10 12:37] Angelika Courtois: chuckles
[2023/06/10 12:37] Lilith Ivory: we would get tonns of volunteers this way
[2023/06/10 12:37] Tanoujin Milestone: I got it this time Gwyn
[2023/06/10 12:37] Almut Brunswick: Gwyn, one false word and I will nominate you for the LUC
[2023/06/10 12:37] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
[2023/06/10 12:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh! good idea, Lilith
[2023/06/10 12:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hah
[2023/06/10 12:37] Angelika Courtois: would help if new people would know what LUC means
[2023/06/10 12:37] Sandy Burgess: I was too new here when I was ambushed and put in the RA, Angelika ...
[2023/06/10 12:37] Almut Brunswick: Yes, Angelika, good point
[2023/06/10 12:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I refuse to be part of an organisation I tried to shut down and failed
[2023/06/10 12:37] Lilith Ivory: oh thats the Land use Commission
[2023/06/10 12:37] Angelika Courtois: chuckles at Sandy
[2023/06/10 12:37] Brooke Brandenburg: been there, done that, no thanks
[2023/06/10 12:38] Lilith Ivory: folks come together to make plans about how to develop our estate
[2023/06/10 12:38] Angelika Courtois: ahhhhh
[2023/06/10 12:38] Almut Brunswick: That would be just a fair punishment, Gwyn ^^
[2023/06/10 12:38] Tanoujin Milestone: takes another note re Angelika's remark
[2023/06/10 12:38] Angelika Courtois: nods at Tanoujin
[2023/06/10 12:38] Gwyneth Llewelyn: DO Not Use Too Many Acronyms in Public, Tan?
[2023/06/10 12:38] Jerry McNally: /me would love to ban TLAs, he says paradoxically
[2023/06/10 12:38] Angelika Courtois: laughs
[2023/06/10 12:38] Almut Brunswick: Angelika, there is a new citizens guide on our website that explains all these institutions, too
[2023/06/10 12:38] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *giggles* @ Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:38] Tanoujin Milestone: I suggest we take that to the forum (to have an educative short text about the LUC and group note
[2023/06/10 12:38] Angelika Courtois: it just would be helpful in the beginning
[2023/06/10 12:38] Lilith Ivory: do you have a link to it Almut?
[2023/06/10 12:39] Angelika Courtois: or have a NC with all the explanations
[2023/06/10 12:39] Jerry McNally: https://cdsdemocracy.org/guide-for-new-citizens/
[2023/06/10 12:39] Almut Brunswick: Yes, already looking for it... hold on
[2023/06/10 12:39] Jerry McNally: Beat you to it
[2023/06/10 12:39] Almut Brunswick: Jerry is faster - as always
[2023/06/10 12:39] Tor Karlsvalt: /me LUC meetings have very bad coffee.
[2023/06/10 12:39] Tanoujin Milestone: bows, to Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:39] Brooke Brandenburg: lol
[2023/06/10 12:39] Angelika Courtois: Almut, yes, I am certain there is, but website or attend meeting .... mmmmm
[2023/06/10 12:39] Almut Brunswick: Tor, when I was there, we had beer though
[2023/06/10 12:39] Tor Karlsvalt:
[2023/06/10 12:39] Tanoujin Milestone: k, I volunteer to take care of it until next time
[2023/06/10 12:39] Sandy Burgess: I always bring my own coffee
[2023/06/10 12:40] Angelika Courtois: thanks Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:40] Jerry McNally: no worries
[2023/06/10 12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: we ran out of filters had it John Wayne style for a week
[2023/06/10 12:40] Brooke Brandenburg:
[2023/06/10 12:40] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
[2023/06/10 12:40] Almut Brunswick: Angelika, basically the LUC is a joint convention of people interested in developing the public CDS land and to advise the Chancellor and the RA
[2023/06/10 12:40] Sandy Burgess: Government coffee is notoriously bad in Germany
[2023/06/10 12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: okay, next point: Citizen Concerns
[2023/06/10 12:40] Angelika Courtois: nods
[2023/06/10 12:41] Angelika Courtois: thanks, that I know, I just did not know what LUC meant
[2023/06/10 12:41] Tanoujin Milestone: Tru, an Italian laughed at me when I offered her coffe: "German coffee?? No thanks"
[2023/06/10 12:41] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
[2023/06/10 12:41] Tanoujin Milestone: Citizen Concerns
[2023/06/10 12:41] Almut Brunswick: Let them drink their coffee and remain small...
[2023/06/10 12:41] Tanoujin Milestone: /me offers Lilith a cigar
[2023/06/10 12:41] Lilith Ivory: /me hides her scripts behind her back to be ready for Brooks and Roisies concern
[2023/06/10 12:41] Brooke Brandenburg: lol
[2023/06/10 12:42] Brooke Brandenburg: that would be me Tan
[2023/06/10 12:42] Brooke Brandenburg: will try to make this brief and hope for discussion
[2023/06/10 12:42] Tanoujin Milestone: you have a concern, Brooke?
[2023/06/10 12:42] Brooke Brandenburg: yessir
[2023/06/10 12:42] Brooke Brandenburg: regarding script usage on our sims
[2023/06/10 12:42] Tanoujin Milestone: antastic! Please, yoiuhave the floor
[2023/06/10 12:42] Brooke Brandenburg: Thank You
[2023/06/10 12:42] Brooke Brandenburg: As I talk to others about this subject and do some online research, I realize more and more just how complex it is.
[2023/06/10 12:43] Brooke Brandenburg: And, I know scripts usage is probably already on a to-do list somewhere, but I think it's not a bad idea to do a regular checkup of our sims, especially those areas where lag is bad.
[2023/06/10 12:43] Brooke Brandenburg: Top colliders and top scripts - for those who can view them - show which objects are incurring the heaviest usage. Maybe there are some old scripts in use.
[2023/06/10 12:43] Brooke Brandenburg: Maybe scripts could be turned off when not in use: animals, for instance, and dance balls.
[2023/06/10 12:44] Brooke Brandenburg: Knowing which objects are creating the issues - and why - can help to determine how to improve the situation.
[2023/06/10 12:44] Sandy Burgess: /me raises her hand
[2023/06/10 12:44] Brooke Brandenburg: Riding the Owl Trail, there were three areas I noticed in particular:
LA bridge over the Rhenus at the harbor.
LA Village
NFS - in general, but especially along Marktplatz Street
[2023/06/10 12:44] Brooke Brandenburg: Investigating and addressing these issues would help all of us to load faster, move around more easily and would allow visitors to have the best possible experience while exploring our sims.
[2023/06/10 12:45] Brooke Brandenburg: Done. Thanks.
[2023/06/10 12:45] Tanoujin Milestone: Sandy?
[2023/06/10 12:45] Tanoujin Milestone: /me knocks at the screen
[2023/06/10 12:45] Sandy Burgess: I do some scripting. I would not call myself and expert and scripts and lag but have learned a few things about it.
[2023/06/10 12:47] Sandy Burgess: The script itself is not causing the lag. It gets some time slot and if it needs more it will be delayed. What causes lag is if the script makes changes to objects and these updates need to be sent to the clients. It is not too easy to find out what is causing lag in a place
[2023/06/10 12:48] Brooke Brandenburg: Right. Complicated.
[2023/06/10 12:48] Brooke Brandenburg: But I think it should be investigated anyway.
[2023/06/10 12:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *nods* and agrees
[2023/06/10 12:48] Brooke Brandenburg: Can't hurt to do another survey
[2023/06/10 12:48] Sandy Burgess: The other thing: Switching off things like animals will lead to static sims - would be sad for atmosphere.
[2023/06/10 12:48] Sandy Burgess: done
[2023/06/10 12:49] Lilith Ivory: /me nods in agreement
[2023/06/10 12:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me also raises hand (assuming there is some time left)
[2023/06/10 12:49] Brooke Brandenburg: I grant you there are no easy solutions
[2023/06/10 12:49] Tanoujin Milestone: hm, looks like an executive issue. Would you both, Brooke and Sandy
[2023/06/10 12:49] Jerry McNally: /me notices Angelika's raised hand
[2023/06/10 12:49] Angelika Courtois: smiles
[2023/06/10 12:49] Tanoujin Milestone: want to look into it a bit more and work with the chancellor to look for solutiuons?
[2023/06/10 12:50] Tanoujin Milestone: Sorry, Angelica, please
[2023/06/10 12:50] Angelika Courtois: thanks
[2023/06/10 12:50] Angelika Courtois: where you and Rosie encountering those heavy scripts (or lag) while using horses that are also heavily scripted? Example, since moving in a few days ago, I have no lag, but if someone comes by riding, well, that spikes it. If you turn off scripts to the temp rezz bikes or the fishing or swimming at the beach, visitors or potential new residents would not be able to enjoy them (and maybe move here - like I did ... and static animals are terrible
[2023/06/10 12:50] Angelika Courtois: done
[2023/06/10 12:50] Tanoujin Milestone: Gwyneth?
[2023/06/10 12:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, in fact, there is not a LOT more that can be said,
[2023/06/10 12:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: one thing I've noticed, though, is that the region simulators are reporting an insane amount of memory being used
[2023/06/10 12:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Remember: each script can only use up to 64 K
[2023/06/10 12:52] Moon Adamant: /me nods
[2023/06/10 12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's KBytes == 1024 bytes
[2023/06/10 12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So , not much, right?
[2023/06/10 12:52] Angelika Courtois: is there a sim restart schedule?
[2023/06/10 12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ... well, our regions are consuing *Gigabytes*
[2023/06/10 12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (Angelika, aye, usually before major events, which is not necessarily a good idea)
[2023/06/10 12:52] Angelika Courtois: nods
[2023/06/10 12:52] Tanoujin Milestone: hehe
[2023/06/10 12:53] Sandy Burgess: Can the Estate Managers see which objects us the most memory?
[2023/06/10 12:53] Moon Adamant: to give an idea: an InTan Couple Dance Ball neaby is using 2432 Kb of memory
[2023/06/10 12:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye
[2023/06/10 12:53] Brooke Brandenburg: yes
[2023/06/10 12:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: They can
[2023/06/10 12:53] Moon Adamant: yes Sandy
[2023/06/10 12:53] Angelika Courtois: wow
[2023/06/10 12:53] Lilith Ivory: it is the job of the chancellor to decide how often we do restarts
[2023/06/10 12:53] Angelika Courtois: nods
[2023/06/10 12:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: It's not 100% sure if those values are correct or not
[2023/06/10 12:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: If they are — they're insane
[2023/06/10 12:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: e.g. that couple dance ball would consume the equivalent of 38 scripts
[2023/06/10 12:54] Tor Karlsvalt: Typically restarts are done before or after events or as needed.
[2023/06/10 12:54] Sandy Burgess: Those dance balls have many scripts inside
[2023/06/10 12:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and that's just ONE
[2023/06/10 12:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Exactly!
[2023/06/10 12:54] Angelika Courtois: *listens
[2023/06/10 12:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: It's not just the animals (or the avatars....)
[2023/06/10 12:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: it's things we use only occasionally,
[2023/06/10 12:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: but apparently are "always on"
[2023/06/10 12:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and, as time passes,
[2023/06/10 12:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: they consume more and more resources
[2023/06/10 12:55] Brooke Brandenburg: some furniture, for example
[2023/06/10 12:55] Angelika Courtois: its all of it, and the more engaging or animated a community, the more scripts we use
[2023/06/10 12:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: exactly.
[2023/06/10 12:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Nothing that a reboot can't fix *temporarily*
[2023/06/10 12:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh for sure, Angelika
[2023/06/10 12:55] Sandy Burgess: But memory is just lying around. It will not cause lag if my understanding is correct
[2023/06/10 12:55] Lilith Ivory: especially in Neufreistadt we have the problem that there are lots of smll parcels and any parcel owner wants to use scrtipted items
[2023/06/10 12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ha. To answer *that*, Sandy, I'd have to take a look at LL's server code ))))
[2023/06/10 12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: In other words...
[2023/06/10 12:56] Brooke Brandenburg:
[2023/06/10 12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: It's not easy to state (seen from afar, that is) if and how memory consumption is a real problem, BUT....
[2023/06/10 12:56] Moon Adamant: code can lock memory and fail to unlock it, mind
[2023/06/10 12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Consider the following...
[2023/06/10 12:56] Angelika Courtois: we could just wipe it all clean and start new (I am kidding)
[2023/06/10 12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (aye, Moon, that might be precisely what's going on)
[2023/06/10 12:56] Sandy Burgess: Its what I gather from the discussions in several scripting groups
[2023/06/10 12:57] Jerry McNally: /me raises a hand
[2023/06/10 12:57] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, Jerry?
[2023/06/10 12:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: True, Sandy. Also, we have no idea how much memory LL's servers have *now*
[2023/06/10 12:57] Tor Karlsvalt: So restarts would help that problem, correct?
[2023/06/10 12:57] Jerry McNally: I have to admit to having absolutely no clue about this discussion at all, but is there a Next Action for us somewhere? A concrete next step to suggest?
[2023/06/10 12:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Temporraily
[2023/06/10 12:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: At the cost of deleting all the cache, Tor
[2023/06/10 12:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Which makes everything far worse
[2023/06/10 12:57] Moon Adamant: they would free locked away memory, yes
[2023/06/10 12:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: All I can say is that if too much memory is used... the system starts using disk space insitead
[2023/06/10 12:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Which is 1000x slower — even considering it's all running on the Amazon cloud servers
[2023/06/10 12:58] Tor Karlsvalt: Right, that would be the SL cache on our computers?
[2023/06/10 12:58] Jerry McNally: /me wonders if we could rename Land Use Commission to Land And Script Use...
[2023/06/10 12:58] Angelika Courtois: evaluate, make a report, find ways to reduce or have alternatives
[2023/06/10 12:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Tor: no, the server cache
[2023/06/10 12:58] Tanoujin Milestone: good point, Jerry
[2023/06/10 12:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Jerry: LOL !
[2023/06/10 12:58] Tor Karlsvalt: hmmm
[2023/06/10 12:59] Brooke Brandenburg: That was my thought Angelika
[2023/06/10 12:59] Lilith Ivory: in fact I was wondering if this is a topic for the LUC
[2023/06/10 12:59] Angelika Courtois: nods
[2023/06/10 12:59] Tanoujin Milestone: I see this as an exec issue, as already stated
[2023/06/10 12:59] Moon Adamant: issue here is also that we can set scripts to not running when we are not running them
[2023/06/10 12:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (mm hmm)
[2023/06/10 12:59] Angelika Courtois: and then a "risk assessment" ... how much are we willing to put up with to have top experiences
[2023/06/10 12:59] Tanoujin Milestone: the environmentalist approach
[2023/06/10 12:59] Tor Karlsvalt: So when we delete the cache, then the first AV to enter the region would case the script to download into the cache?
[2023/06/10 12:59] Lilith Ivory: (we could make a law that our regions are not aloowed to be laggy ;_))
[2023/06/10 12:59] Sandy Burgess: Only if they are mod, Moon
[2023/06/10 13:00] Moon Adamant: but it is cumbersome (and people forget) to do that to ALL your objects everytime you login/logoff
[2023/06/10 13:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ha! One thing is very easy to do... *before* the next reboot, one Estate Manager can just stop ALL scripts in a region and see what happens
[2023/06/10 13:00] Tor Karlsvalt: Heheh, "Let it be so!"
[2023/06/10 13:00] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
[2023/06/10 13:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: If there is no change... well, then the scripts are not to be blamed .)
[2023/06/10 13:00] Lilith Ivory: lol Gwyn
[2023/06/10 13:00] Tanoujin Milestone: Tor, are you willing to adopt this as an executive task?
[2023/06/10 13:00] Tor Karlsvalt: Do we lose gravity?
[2023/06/10 13:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: MMh. No, because furniture is glued to the ground
[2023/06/10 13:00] Angelika Courtois: If I loose my underwear and log in naked, I am suing someone
[2023/06/10 13:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hahahahahaha
[2023/06/10 13:01] Brooke Brandenburg: hehe
[2023/06/10 13:01] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
[2023/06/10 13:01] Brooke Brandenburg: but who??
[2023/06/10 13:01] Brooke Brandenburg: Tor?
[2023/06/10 13:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You'll get a 15 minute warning
[2023/06/10 13:01] Brooke Brandenburg: lol
[2023/06/10 13:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehehehe
[2023/06/10 13:01] Tanoujin Milestone:
[2023/06/10 13:01] Angelika Courtois: anyone present that said aye
[2023/06/10 13:01] Lilith Ivory: /me gives Angelika her SC card in case she wants to file a complaint
[2023/06/10 13:01] Sandy Burgess: AR Tor for it, Angelika
[2023/06/10 13:01] Brooke Brandenburg:
[2023/06/10 13:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: whoops
[2023/06/10 13:01] Angelika Courtois: laughs
[2023/06/10 13:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me gets Tor a good lawyer
[2023/06/10 13:01] Brooke Brandenburg: he may need that
[2023/06/10 13:01] Lilith Ivory: SC = Scientific Council
[2023/06/10 13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: Sure, I can try stop all scripts. Probably do this when few are around.
[2023/06/10 13:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Let me see.... there are some part-time trainee lawyers at LL... they might do the job
[2023/06/10 13:02] Angelika Courtois: thanks Lilith !!!!
[2023/06/10 13:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Tor: that would be the idea
[2023/06/10 13:02] Tanoujin Milestone: alright, I would like to limit the discussion to 1:05
[2023/06/10 13:02] Brooke Brandenburg: oh gawd @ LL lawyers
[2023/06/10 13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: /me checks his executive liability insurance.
[2023/06/10 13:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *snickers*
[2023/06/10 13:02] Angelika Courtois: chuckles
[2023/06/10 13:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: expird!
[2023/06/10 13:02] Sandy Burgess: So should I take the discussion to the LUC?
[2023/06/10 13:02] Lilith Ivory: Gwyn you mean the one who is supposed to deal with the water regions and the move?
[2023/06/10 13:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *nods* and laughs @ Lil
[2023/06/10 13:03] Tanoujin Milestone: maybe the RA asks the Chancellor to find means to take care of the script load - like having a forums discussion?
[2023/06/10 13:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The very same one!
[2023/06/10 13:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me hopes the discussions on the forums do not consume too much memory
[2023/06/10 13:03] Tor Karlsvalt: We can always talk about it.
[2023/06/10 13:03] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[2023/06/10 13:03] Brooke Brandenburg:
[2023/06/10 13:03] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, until 1:05
[2023/06/10 13:03] Lilith Ivory: I remember at the mainland you can file a ticket and get a mole investigating lag
[2023/06/10 13:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aww
[2023/06/10 13:04] Almut Brunswick: I think that makes sense, and the LUC may investigate ways to monitor it and to propose useful measures against it.
[2023/06/10 13:04] Angelika Courtois: great idea
[2023/06/10 13:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me suggests we move to the mainland
[2023/06/10 13:04] Lilith Ivory: lol
[2023/06/10 13:04] Brooke Brandenburg: yup
[2023/06/10 13:04] Angelika Courtois: laughs
[2023/06/10 13:04] Lilith Ivory: /me suggests we try that here too
[2023/06/10 13:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh! Ok. It's an idea!
[2023/06/10 13:04] Sandy Burgess: Plan an invasion?
[2023/06/10 13:04] Almut Brunswick: We conquer the mainland just for the welfare of all citizens there
[2023/06/10 13:04] Tanoujin Milestone: I move to take the discussion to the forums and wherever people see fit
[2023/06/10 13:04] Lilith Ivory: kidnap some moles at SLB
[2023/06/10 13:05] Brooke Brandenburg: good plan
[2023/06/10 13:05] Tanoujin Milestone: can I have a second?
[2023/06/10 13:05] Almut Brunswick: Yes, Tan, let's table it for now.
[2023/06/10 13:05] Almut Brunswick: Second
[2023/06/10 13:05] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you - please vote on tabling this
[2023/06/10 13:05] Angelika Courtois: WooT
[2023/06/10 13:05] Angelika Courtois: aha .... SLB .... Second Life Birthday ... I knew that one .... to me
[2023/06/10 13:05] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 13:05] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[2023/06/10 13:05] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[2023/06/10 13:05] Sandy Burgess: Aye
[2023/06/10 13:05] Angelika Courtois: aye
[2023/06/10 13:05] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you, topic is tabled
[2023/06/10 13:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (I think that the LRA is allowed to table things without a vote, if I remember correctly)
[2023/06/10 13:06] Tanoujin Milestone: let us prepare something for the next session then
[2023/06/10 13:06] Lilith Ivory: we should put up a poster with all short cuts here in the RA chambers
[2023/06/10 13:06] Tanoujin Milestone: thanks for the hint , Gwyn
[2023/06/10 13:06] Angelika Courtois: yessssssss
[2023/06/10 13:06] Tanoujin Milestone: so, RA Member Concerns
[2023/06/10 13:06] Tanoujin Milestone: like: script load issue 2.0
[2023/06/10 13:06] Tanoujin Milestone: no, ernestly, anything?
[2023/06/10 13:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[2023/06/10 13:07] Tanoujin Milestone:
[2023/06/10 13:07] Tanoujin Milestone: I hear nothing. we are coming to aNNOUNCEMENTS
[2023/06/10 13:07] Tanoujin Milestone: UPSALA
[2023/06/10 13:07] Almut Brunswick: No concerns from my side
[2023/06/10 13:07] Tanoujin Milestone: so, I have a nice link here, lets look at it
[2023/06/10 13:08] Almut Brunswick: Tan is talking Swedish now
[2023/06/10 13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: cdsdemocracy.org
[2023/06/10 13:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: mh?
[2023/06/10 13:08] Lilith Ivory: I wondered what is wrong with Upsala
[2023/06/10 13:08] Angelika Courtois: ?????
[2023/06/10 13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: consult netflix, please, Lilith
[2023/06/10 13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: the cristians destroyed it
[2023/06/10 13:08] Lilith Ivory: yes I know
[2023/06/10 13:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You guys are really confusing me now
[2023/06/10 13:08] Lilith Ivory: those evil christians
[2023/06/10 13:08] Sandy Burgess: Upsala: Old Viking town at the German coast
[2023/06/10 13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok so far
[2023/06/10 13:09] Angelika Courtois: glad I am not the only non-knowing person in the room
[2023/06/10 13:09] Brooke Brandenburg: same
[2023/06/10 13:09] Almut Brunswick: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/r/day
[2023/06/10 13:09] Sandy Burgess: And a GErman expression for Oops
[2023/06/10 13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (true that!)
[2023/06/10 13:09] Almut Brunswick: that is our Google calendar with announcements
[2023/06/10 13:09] Lilith Ivory: right and I guess that is what Tan meant
[2023/06/10 13:09] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you Almut - i managed to open it by now
[2023/06/10 13:09] Almut Brunswick: Yes, because of the CAPSLOCK
[2023/06/10 13:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *nods*
[2023/06/10 13:10] Tanoujin Milestone: to explain it "ups" is something like "oops"
[2023/06/10 13:10] Almut Brunswick: I know that there is a Cabaret event in preparation.
[2023/06/10 13:10] Tanoujin Milestone: and upsala the diminutive
[2023/06/10 13:10] Tanoujin Milestone: right gwyn
[2023/06/10 13:10] Lilith Ivory: first time I hear about the cabaret event - but than I was not online a lot lately
[2023/06/10 13:10] Sandy Burgess: The Cabaret was cancelled
[2023/06/10 13:11] Tanoujin Milestone: am I supposed to read the calendar in Chat?
[2023/06/10 13:11] Almut Brunswick: Completely or just postponed?
[2023/06/10 13:11] Gwyneth Llewelyn: No!!
[2023/06/10 13:11] Almut Brunswick: Not at all
[2023/06/10 13:11] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2023/06/10 13:11] Tanoujin Milestone: goddess thank you
[2023/06/10 13:11] Lilith Ivory: I wonder what the Black Tulip event is
[2023/06/10 13:11] Sandy Burgess: Not sure - it was in the group notices
[2023/06/10 13:11] Angelika Courtois: so....the link....the Calendar
[2023/06/10 13:11] Lilith Ivory: Tor, any idea?
[2023/06/10 13:11] Almut Brunswick: Normally, people - usually Kyoko - use to announce events here. Or instead, you can study the calendar.
[2023/06/10 13:12] Jerry McNally: Here Angelika https://cdsdemocracy.org/cds-events/
[2023/06/10 13:12] Lilith Ivory: oh ... and perhaps Tor would like to say somethijng about SLB and our parcel vthere?
[2023/06/10 13:12] Tanoujin Milestone: well i think SLB20 is important
[2023/06/10 13:12] Moon Adamant: /me is fogged o.O
[2023/06/10 13:12] Tor Karlsvalt: sure
[2023/06/10 13:12] Angelika Courtois: yes, I have done so ... so what is the Announcement?
[2023/06/10 13:12] Angelika Courtois: 7 Announcements
* Calendar: cdsdemocracy.org
[2023/06/10 13:12] Almut Brunswick: Black Tulip sounds like an every by Auryn Beorn, my former scripting teacher who runs a business of this name.
[2023/06/10 13:12] Tanoujin Milestone: SLB20 atm Angelika
[2023/06/10 13:12] Tor Karlsvalt: We claimed the parcel. Mizou and Moon are finishing the build.
[2023/06/10 13:12] Angelika Courtois: nods
[2023/06/10 13:13] Almut Brunswick: event, not every*
[2023/06/10 13:13] Lilith Ivory: are you going to send out a link to our parcel Tor?
[2023/06/10 13:13] Tor Karlsvalt: Well yes, but as of now, only a few people can access it.
[2023/06/10 13:13] Lilith Ivory: if I am informed correctly it will open soon
[2023/06/10 13:13] Almut Brunswick: We ought to schedule the next Q&A session soon
[2023/06/10 13:14] Tor Karlsvalt: SLB won't open to the public until June 22nd.
[2023/06/10 13:14] Jerry McNally: Here's the forum link from Moon https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?t=10392
[2023/06/10 13:14] Tor Karlsvalt: Thanks moon.
[2023/06/10 13:14] Tanoujin Milestone: do we want a public meeting of the RA there?
[2023/06/10 13:14] Tor Karlsvalt: I can assure you that the pavilion looks great.
[2023/06/10 13:14] Tor Karlsvalt: Just needs a roof.
[2023/06/10 13:14] Tanoujin Milestone: so I can make a fool of myself in broader pubblic?
[2023/06/10 13:15] Tanoujin Milestone: how long does SLB run?
[2023/06/10 13:15] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL, Tan, Even if you do, visitors won't know it.
[2023/06/10 13:15] Sandy Burgess: We discussed that in the last RA meeting and did recommend it for the new RA
[2023/06/10 13:15] Tanoujin Milestone: hehe
[2023/06/10 13:15] Tor Karlsvalt: two weeks
[2023/06/10 13:15] Tor Karlsvalt: sec
[2023/06/10 13:15] Tanoujin Milestone: so, when does SLB end? What is our time window if we want to do that?
[2023/06/10 13:15] Tanoujin Milestone: k, thaks
[2023/06/10 13:16] Sandy Burgess: I think we should hold a meeting at SL20B
[2023/06/10 13:16] Tanoujin Milestone: my calculation shows we need to have it next time there if at all
[2023/06/10 13:16] Sandy Burgess: I agree Tah
[2023/06/10 13:16] Tanoujin Milestone: I second that, Sandy
[2023/06/10 13:16] Sandy Burgess: Tan
[2023/06/10 13:16] Tanoujin Milestone:
[2023/06/10 13:17] Jerry McNally: Do we need to bring these uncomfortable chairs with us?
[2023/06/10 13:17] Almut Brunswick: I have some beer tent furniture, Jerry
[2023/06/10 13:17] Tanoujin Milestone: depends on the context -
[2023/06/10 13:17] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, Almut, thats great
[2023/06/10 13:17] Tor Karlsvalt: Save the date! On June 23rd, Second Life will be turning 20! The 20th annual Second Life birthday celebration (SL20B) will be held from June 22nd to July 11th. Get ready for 20 fun-filled days of live music, performances, shopping, and amazing community exhibits!
[2023/06/10 13:17] Angelika Courtois: laughs....Germans do not sit on the ground...we are proper chair people ... at least I am ....chuckles
[2023/06/10 13:18] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2023/06/10 13:18] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[2023/06/10 13:18] Almut Brunswick: well, the proposal for our next meeting is June 24 anyway. Why not gathering there?
[2023/06/10 13:18] Angelika Courtois: awesome
[2023/06/10 13:18] Tor Karlsvalt: Sounds like a plan.
[2023/06/10 13:18] Tanoujin Milestone: I take that as a motion
[2023/06/10 13:18] Jerry McNally: "live music, performances, shopping, amazing community exhibits - and meetings!"
[2023/06/10 13:18] Sandy Burgess: And beer tent furniture is where we make politics
[2023/06/10 13:18] Lilith Ivory: I wonder if Mizou has benches in her build or if we need to bring wearable chairs
[2023/06/10 13:18] Angelika Courtois: laughs out loud and scares the dog
[2023/06/10 13:18] Tanoujin Milestone: and I second it to make sure
[2023/06/10 13:19] Moon Adamant: well, we can take a copy of this furniture tehre
[2023/06/10 13:19] Tor Karlsvalt: I think the plan was to use these benches.
[2023/06/10 13:19] Almut Brunswick: I have these benches and tables made by myself
[2023/06/10 13:19] Almut Brunswick: Just a moment...
[2023/06/10 13:19] Tanoujin Milestone: so, pleaase vote on: " shall the RA meet on Saturday June 24 at 12 PM slt at our Pavillion at SLB20?
[2023/06/10 13:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: whoops sorry
[2023/06/10 13:19] Sandy Burgess: aye
[2023/06/10 13:19] Brooke Brandenburg: lol
[2023/06/10 13:19] Angelika Courtois: aye
[2023/06/10 13:19] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[2023/06/10 13:19] Tanoujin Milestone: motion carries
[2023/06/10 13:19] Tanoujin Milestone: laughs
[2023/06/10 13:20] Jerry McNally: Aye
[2023/06/10 13:20] Tor Karlsvalt: Super I can check this off my list.
[2023/06/10 13:20] Tanoujin Milestone: cool!
[2023/06/10 13:20] Moon Adamant: please post it in our calendar?
[2023/06/10 13:20] Tanoujin Milestone: If there is nothing left, I would move to adjourn
[2023/06/10 13:20] Moon Adamant: fro PR?
[2023/06/10 13:20] Tanoujin Milestone: who is posting it?
[2023/06/10 13:20] Lilith Ivory: at what time will the meeting be?
[2023/06/10 13:20] Almut Brunswick: there we go
[2023/06/10 13:20] Tanoujin Milestone: 12pm SLT
[2023/06/10 13:21] Lilith Ivory: ah I overooked the time sorrry
[2023/06/10 13:21] Almut Brunswick: aye
[2023/06/10 13:21] Tanoujin Milestone: np
[2023/06/10 13:21] Moon Adamant: ah, there you have me ㋡
[2023/06/10 13:21] Jerry McNally: For info, the full correct link to our calendar is https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/[email protected]&ctz=Pacific/Los-Angeles
[2023/06/10 13:21] Tanoujin Milestone: okay, please vot on adjournment, I get it Almut gave us an aye already?
[2023/06/10 13:21] Angelika Courtois: thanks Jerry
[2023/06/10 13:21] Angelika Courtois: aye
[2023/06/10 13:22] Almut Brunswick: The aye was for the meeting on June 24
[2023/06/10 13:22] Tanoujin Milestone: ohhhh,
[2023/06/10 13:22] Almut Brunswick: Aye for adjouring
[2023/06/10 13:22] Tanoujin Milestone: i retract
[2023/06/10 13:22] Angelika Courtois: aye
[2023/06/10 13:22] Jerry McNally: Aye here too
[2023/06/10 13:22] Tanoujin Milestone: so, aye
[2023/06/10 13:22] Tanoujin Milestone: sorry for the confusion, still in training
[2023/06/10 13:22] Angelika Courtois: jawohl (chuckles)
[2023/06/10 13:22] Almut Brunswick: Angelika, you can "aye" when you become a Representative
[2023/06/10 13:22] Angelika Courtois: oh
[2023/06/10 13:22] Angelika Courtois: sorry
[2023/06/10 13:22] Tanoujin Milestone: we stand adjourned until June 24 12 pm SLT at SLB20
[2023/06/10 13:23] Sandy Burgess: aye
[2023/06/10 13:23] Angelika Courtois: got caught up in the aye moment
[2023/06/10 13:23] Almut Brunswick: yay
[2023/06/10 13:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[2023/06/10 13:23] Lilith Ivory: no problem Angelika, you could not have known
[2023/06/10 13:23] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you
[2023/06/10 13:23] Angelika Courtois: it was fun for my first time
[2023/06/10 13:23] Tanoujin Milestone: It is fine, Angelika, you can vote to your hearts content and I try not to count it
[2023/06/10 13:23] Angelika Courtois: thanks for having me
[2023/06/10 13:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ... and, Angelika, who knows, that might be sooner than you expect hehe
[2023/06/10 13:24] Angelika Courtois: thats perfect Tan
[2023/06/10 13:24] Almut Brunswick: Right, we have ways to make you volunteering ...
[2023/06/10 13:24] Tanoujin Milestone: <3