LUC Meeting - Transcript - 1 April 2023 - Rathaus -
Attending:
RA representative: Sandy Burgess
Chancellor representative: Rosie Gray
RA citizen appointments: Delia Lake, Leslie Allandale – LUC Chair
CDS Artisan Guild appointments: Mizou Vavoom – Archivist , Sudane Erato
Also present:
Lilith Ivory
[2023/04/01 08:43] Mizou Vavoom: Hi Leslie
[2023/04/01 08:56] Rosie Gray: hi Leslie, hi Mizou
[2023/04/01 08:57] Leslie Allandale: Morning Rosie
[2023/04/01 08:57] Rosie Gray: hi Lilith
[2023/04/01 08:57] Lilith Ivory: HI Les, Mizou, Rosie and Laggg
[2023/04/01 08:57] Almut Brunswick: is online.
[2023/04/01 08:57] Leslie Allandale: Hey, Lilith!
[2023/04/01 08:58] Rosie Gray: how is everyone today?
[2023/04/01 08:58] Lilith Ivory: not bad 
[2023/04/01 08:59] Rosie Gray: I will send a notice through the CDS group
[2023/04/01 08:59] Lilith Ivory: great
[2023/04/01 08:59] Lilith Ivory: I was watching out for a group note with agenda yesterday but didn't see any 
[2023/04/01 09:01] Mizou Vavoom: hi everyone
[2023/04/01 09:01] Leslie Allandale: I thought about you Lilith, and looked for you the past two days.
[2023/04/01 09:01] Rosie Gray: hi Almut
[2023/04/01 09:01] Sudane Erato: hi hi
[2023/04/01 09:01] Almut Brunswick: Hello 
[2023/04/01 09:01] Rosie Gray: hi Sudane
[2023/04/01 09:01] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2023/04/01 09:01] Lilith Ivory: hey Sudane
[2023/04/01 09:02] Leslie Allandale: Gtsy, Sudane.
[2023/04/01 09:02] Wolf Song (Wolfslied): is offline.
[2023/04/01 09:02] Leslie Allandale: I hope Sandy can make it, and Delia.
[2023/04/01 09:03] Sudane Erato: geez... an awful lot of red cloudiness today
[2023/04/01 09:03] Rosie Gray: Leslie, can you use the Agenda giver box that is on the table?
[2023/04/01 09:03] Almut Brunswick: So it is not only me then
[2023/04/01 09:04] Rosie Gray: awh, for once I can see everyone
[2023/04/01 09:04] Leslie Allandale: Maybe we could give them a few minutes.
[2023/04/01 09:04] Rosie Gray: I have only got 1 hour this morning, myself
[2023/04/01 09:04] Mizou Vavoom: ican see everyone , no clouds
[2023/04/01 09:05] Rosie Gray: starting at 9 am is early for me ㋡
[2023/04/01 09:05] Sudane Erato: clouds all gone
[2023/04/01 09:05] Rosie Gray: oh good
[2023/04/01 09:05] Leslie Allandale: In the meantime, does anyone have comments on the ajenda?
[2023/04/01 09:06] Mizou Vavoom: not me
[2023/04/01 09:06] Almut Brunswick: The agenda in the box says feb 5
[2023/04/01 09:07] Sudane Erato: Leslie, the agenda on the forum?
[2023/04/01 09:07] Leslie Allandale: That is Lilith's box.
[2023/04/01 09:08] Leslie Allandale: Didn' igive you one, Almut?
[2023/04/01 09:08] Sudane Erato: ahh... i got it... ty
[2023/04/01 09:08] Rosie Gray: can't you use it, Leslie?
[2023/04/01 09:08] Rosie Gray: the box, I mean
[2023/04/01 09:08] Leslie Allandale: I tried
[2023/04/01 09:09] Sudane Erato: Agenda looks good to me
[2023/04/01 09:09] Rosie Gray: you have to be wearing the LV tag
[2023/04/01 09:09] Leslie Allandale: IK
[2023/04/01 09:09] Leslie Allandale: I think I tried that.
[2023/04/01 09:10] Leslie Allandale: At any rate, I call the meeting to order.
[2023/04/01 09:10] Sudane Erato: i move we approve the agenda
[2023/04/01 09:10] Rosie Gray: second
[2023/04/01 09:10] Mizou Vavoom: second
[2023/04/01 09:11] Leslie Allandale: I will post a transcript ang brief minutes.
[2023/04/01 09:11] Leslie Allandale: vote
[2023/04/01 09:11] Rosie Gray: aye
[2023/04/01 09:11] Mizou Vavoom: sorry but the minutes were posted
[2023/04/01 09:11] Sudane Erato: aye
[2023/04/01 09:11] Leslie Allandale: Aye
[2023/04/01 09:12] Mizou Vavoom: and the transcript
[2023/04/01 09:12] Rosie Gray: oh yes... sorry I did see them earlier this morning
[2023/04/01 09:12] Mizou Vavoom: it was late as i had to look for approval for getting back on the forum
[2023/04/01 09:13] Leslie Allandale: Great, ty, Mizou.
[2023/04/01 09:13] Mizou Vavoom: next time i will post the link in CDS
[2023/04/01 09:14] Leslie Allandale: Link?
[2023/04/01 09:14] Mizou Vavoom: the link to the minutes, if needed
[2023/04/01 09:14] Rosie Gray: viewtopic.php?t=10310
[2023/04/01 09:14] Leslie Allandale: Call to approve?
[2023/04/01 09:14] Rosie Gray: there it is
[2023/04/01 09:14] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Rosie
[2023/04/01 09:14] Leslie Allandale: ty
[2023/04/01 09:15] Sudane Erato: so move
[2023/04/01 09:15] Rosie Gray: second
[2023/04/01 09:15] Leslie Allandale: Vote.
[2023/04/01 09:15] Sudane Erato: aye
[2023/04/01 09:15] Mizou Vavoom: aye
[2023/04/01 09:15] Rosie Gray: aye
[2023/04/01 09:15] Leslie Allandale: aye
[2023/04/01 09:15] Leslie Allandale: Approved.
[2023/04/01 09:16] Mizou Vavoom: i have a question about everyones role on the LUC, as you can see in the minutes i dont know all of your roles
[2023/04/01 09:16] Rosie Gray: it's on the CDS website, Mizou
[2023/04/01 09:16] Mizou Vavoom: i checked but names are outdated
[2023/04/01 09:17] Rosie Gray: https://cdsdemocracy.org/cds-themes/lan ... ommission/
[2023/04/01 09:17] Rosie Gray: oh yes, I think it's only Agatha though
[2023/04/01 09:17] Mizou Vavoom: not only
[2023/04/01 09:17] Rosie Gray: I'll update that
[2023/04/01 09:17] Mizou Vavoom: ok
[2023/04/01 09:17] Rosie Gray: no? what else is different?
[2023/04/01 09:17] Sudane Erato: Lil
[2023/04/01 09:18] Mizou Vavoom: my name isn't on it
[2023/04/01 09:18] Lilith Ivory: what?
[2023/04/01 09:18] Leslie Allandale: Ty, Rosie.
[2023/04/01 09:18] Sudane Erato: on that page you are the chairman
[2023/04/01 09:18] Rosie Gray: yes, but you replaced Agatha
[2023/04/01 09:18] Lilith Ivory: oops ok
[2023/04/01 09:18] Lilith Ivory: will change that
[2023/04/01 09:19] Leslie Allandale: We should change that with each term.
[2023/04/01 09:19] Mizou Vavoom: and Pro tempore also needs to be changed
[2023/04/01 09:19] Lilith Ivory: in fact I was expecting Delia to change the roles as she is both SC and LUC
[2023/04/01 09:19] Rosie Gray: I have been adding those names now every 6 months
[2023/04/01 09:19] Rosie Gray: hard to keep up
[2023/04/01 09:19] Lilith Ivory: We DO change that normally
[2023/04/01 09:20] Lilith Ivory: /me isnot the only one who has the power to change forum roles
[2023/04/01 09:20] Rosie Gray: oh I was talking about the website
[2023/04/01 09:20] Lilith Ivory: ah ok
[2023/04/01 09:21] Mizou Vavoom: hi sandy
[2023/04/01 09:21] Rosie Gray: now I can't remember who the guild representative is to replace Lilith
[2023/04/01 09:22] Sandy Burgess: Sorry - was inside a script and forgot time
[2023/04/01 09:22] Rosie Gray: hi Sandy
[2023/04/01 09:22] Lilith Ivory: Hi Sandy
[2023/04/01 09:22] Leslie Allandale: It's hard not to have things fall through the cracks in a large organization.
[2023/04/01 09:22] Rosie Gray: was it you, Almut?
[2023/04/01 09:22] Sudane Erato: you got INSIDE the script??!!
[2023/04/01 09:22] Sudane Erato: neat!
[2023/04/01 09:23] Leslie Allandale: Yay, Sandy.
[2023/04/01 09:23] Sandy Burgess: My mind sometimes does
[2023/04/01 09:24] Leslie Allandale: Do we need to address Pro Tem?
[2023/04/01 09:24] Sandy Burgess: I should set reminders
[2023/04/01 09:25] Rosie Gray: okay website updated
[2023/04/01 09:25] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Rosie
[2023/04/01 09:25] Leslie Allandale: That was quick.
[2023/04/01 09:25] Rosie Gray: yes, Pro Temp
[2023/04/01 09:26] Leslie Allandale: Any volunteers?
[2023/04/01 09:26] Rosie Gray: I have too many committments already
[2023/04/01 09:26] Mizou Vavoom: sam ehere, too involved in BB and building the SLB20 thing
[2023/04/01 09:26] Sandy Burgess: I have enough too
[2023/04/01 09:27] Leslie Allandale: i should be able to make meetings, so it may by a moot point.
[2023/04/01 09:27] Rosie Gray: /me nods ㋡
[2023/04/01 09:27] Mizou Vavoom: /me nods
[2023/04/01 09:27] Sudane Erato: we could leave it vacant
[2023/04/01 09:28] Leslie Allandale: Unless my computer goes down.
[2023/04/01 09:28] Almut Brunswick: No, Not me, Rosie! I'm small and innocent
[2023/04/01 09:28] Leslie Allandale: K, we can deal with it later.
[2023/04/01 09:29] Rosie Gray: haha, Almut!
[2023/04/01 09:29] Leslie Allandale: Is there amotion to table?
[2023/04/01 09:29] Sandy Burgess: Who switched on the wind ... all chimney smoke going through here
[2023/04/01 09:30] Mizou Vavoom: yes was wondering what it was...starting to choke lol
[2023/04/01 09:30] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2023/04/01 09:30] Lilith Ivory: good ole NFS lol
[2023/04/01 09:30] Leslie Allandale: or, let's move on.
[2023/04/01 09:30] Rosie Gray: the RA should pass an ordinance to ban those old fireplaces
[2023/04/01 09:30] Sudane Erato: that wind is always on... can't change it
[2023/04/01 09:31] Rosie Gray: we'd all be choking on the smoke if it weren't for that wind!
[2023/04/01 09:31] Rosie Gray:
[2023/04/01 09:32] Leslie Allandale: We are going to try to streamline these meetings by doing our work in committees that will report back for approvals.
[2023/04/01 09:33] Sudane Erato: great idea
[2023/04/01 09:34] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2023/04/01 09:34] Leslie Allandale: At the moment there would be three: Signage, Puplic Transit, and Zoning.
[2023/04/01 09:34] Rosie Gray: I volunteer for the Signage
[2023/04/01 09:34] Rosie Gray: since I'm basically doing it anyway
[2023/04/01 09:35] Leslie Allandale: Done.
[2023/04/01 09:35] Leslie Allandale: Sandy.
[2023/04/01 09:35] Leslie Allandale: Transportation?
[2023/04/01 09:36] Sandy Burgess: I have started on the script but did not get very far - some things came in the way ... and I still need to ambush Almut about doing the mesh work ...
[2023/04/01 09:36] Rosie Gray:
[2023/04/01 09:36] Sudane Erato:
[2023/04/01 09:36] Almut Brunswick: /me looks to the ceiling...
[2023/04/01 09:36] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2023/04/01 09:37] Mizou Vavoom: i can help with the mesh work if you need help Almut?
[2023/04/01 09:37] Almut Brunswick: I take that as a threatening
[2023/04/01 09:38] Sandy Burgess: Don't tell her - I was going to make her drunk and then sign the contract
[2023/04/01 09:38] Leslie Allandale: But can you take responsibility for a committee dealing with it?
[2023/04/01 09:38] Almut Brunswick: No, seriously: I just have a massive RL time problem
[2023/04/01 09:38] Sandy Burgess: I can
[2023/04/01 09:38] Leslie Allandale: Done.
[2023/04/01 09:39] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2023/04/01 09:39] Leslie Allandale: If no one else has time, I can ride Zoning.
[2023/04/01 09:40] Leslie Allandale: Sighs.
[2023/04/01 09:40] Rosie Gray: that would be good, Les
[2023/04/01 09:40] Sudane Erato: I volunteer for whichever you want to assign me to
[2023/04/01 09:40] Almut Brunswick: What is Zoning?
[2023/04/01 09:40] Rosie Gray: covenant upgrades
[2023/04/01 09:40] Almut Brunswick: Aha
[2023/04/01 09:41] Sandy Burgess: If I remember right there was no objection against subletting if it does not grant citizenship
[2023/04/01 09:41] Sandy Burgess: ... in the last RA
[2023/04/01 09:41] Almut Brunswick: yes
[2023/04/01 09:42] Leslie Allandale: I will keep up with the committees and try to have reports for next meeting.
[2023/04/01 09:42] Leslie Allandale: Any new business?
[2023/04/01 09:42] Lilith Ivory: there is a law about the right of the RA to form commitees
[2023/04/01 09:42] Lilith Ivory: we did that a lot in the past
[2023/04/01 09:43] Rosie Gray: these will be sub-committees of the LUC committee
[2023/04/01 09:43] Rosie Gray:
[2023/04/01 09:43] Lilith Ivory: hu?
[2023/04/01 09:43] Lilith Ivory: ok lol
[2023/04/01 09:44] Mizou Vavoom: Well we did have sub committees without a name in the last years, didn't we?
[2023/04/01 09:44] Sandy Burgess: I should finally get around to read my way through all the laws
[2023/04/01 09:44] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2023/04/01 09:44] Rosie Gray: always a scintillating experience, Sandy
[2023/04/01 09:44] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2023/04/01 09:45] Sandy Burgess: Don't we have lawyers in CDS?
[2023/04/01 09:45] Leslie Allandale: I agree that the code should specify that option, but maybe we can work with what we have now.
[2023/04/01 09:46] Rosie Gray: lawyers...
[2023/04/01 09:46] Rosie Gray: /me sighs
[2023/04/01 09:46] Mizou Vavoom: we did i the past
[2023/04/01 09:46] Almut Brunswick: Sylvia is one
[2023/04/01 09:46] Rosie Gray: but she isn't here anymore
[2023/04/01 09:47] Almut Brunswick: Oh, did she leave?
[2023/04/01 09:47] Mizou Vavoom: she is now my neighbour on LL land
[2023/04/01 09:47] Rosie Gray: yes, several months ago
[2023/04/01 09:47] Leslie Allandale: Anything else?
[2023/04/01 09:47] Sudane Erato: nothing from me
[2023/04/01 09:47] Mizou Vavoom: nothing here either
[2023/04/01 09:47] Sudane Erato: next date?
[2023/04/01 09:47] Rosie Gray: I think we have our work cut out
[2023/04/01 09:48] Leslie Allandale: Suggestions for a next meeting?
[2023/04/01 09:48] Rosie Gray: looking at the calendar
[2023/04/01 09:49] Sandy Burgess: /me skims through her calendar and looks up: I have time around Christmas again
[2023/04/01 09:49] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2023/04/01 09:49] Rosie Gray: hehe
[2023/04/01 09:49] Leslie Allandale: And, thanks all for your support.
[2023/04/01 09:49] Leslie Allandale: Sandy!
[2023/04/01 09:50] Sandy Burgess: Ok - for real: I'll go to Italy over Easter and wil only be back after 15th
[2023/04/01 09:50] Rosie Gray: Les... I just wanted to say that I do think the LUC is valuable when we don't have a Chancellor that is graphically detail oriented
[2023/04/01 09:50] Mizou Vavoom: /me nods in agreement
[2023/04/01 09:50] Leslie Allandale: I agree.
[2023/04/01 09:50] Rosie Gray: and when we have citizens that are interested in participating in the designs but aren't builders or designers... as a way to give input
[2023/04/01 09:51] Rosie Gray: so, the LUC is in a lull right now, but it might become more important at another time
[2023/04/01 09:51] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2023/04/01 09:51] Leslie Allandale: And there are always mundane tasks.
[2023/04/01 09:52] Rosie Gray: yup
[2023/04/01 09:52] Rosie Gray: how about April 29?
[2023/04/01 09:52] Mizou Vavoom: yes 29th is ok
[2023/04/01 09:52] Leslie Allandale: yes.
[2023/04/01 09:52] Lilith Ivory: Hi Delia
[2023/04/01 09:52] Sudane Erato: works for me
[2023/04/01 09:52] Rosie Gray: hi Delia
[2023/04/01 09:52] Mizou Vavoom: Hi Delia
[2023/04/01 09:53] Delia Lake: Hi. sorry to be so late. something came up in rl and I just got inworld
[2023/04/01 09:53] Sandy Burgess: Looks good to me too
[2023/04/01 09:53] Leslie Allandale: Delia,too.
[2023/04/01 09:53] Sandy Burgess: Hi Delia
[2023/04/01 09:53] Rosie Gray: can we be a bit later? 9 am is really too early for me
[2023/04/01 09:53] Mizou Vavoom: i hve only till 11 or even 10:30
[2023/04/01 09:53] Sudane Erato: later is ok for me
[2023/04/01 09:53] Rosie Gray: how about 9:30 then?
[2023/04/01 09:53] Leslie Allandale: 10?
[2023/04/01 09:54] Mizou Vavoom: yes 9:30
[2023/04/01 09:54] Rosie Gray: thanks ㋡
[2023/04/01 09:54] Mizou Vavoom: if i am teaching i have to be in the class by 10:30
[2023/04/01 09:54] Sandy Burgess: It should not run too much after 12
[2023/04/01 09:54] Rosie Gray: hopefully we can have shorter meetings, with the sub-committees working
[2023/04/01 09:54] Leslie Allandale: kk. 9:30, the 29th.
[2023/04/01 09:55] Sandy Burgess: /me ducks away so she does not get hit by Rosies coffee
[2023/04/01 09:55] Sudane Erato: great!
[2023/04/01 09:55] Rosie Gray: lol
[2023/04/01 09:55] Sudane Erato: bye all
[2023/04/01 09:55] Rosie Gray: I can put it on the calendar
[2023/04/01 09:55] Rosie Gray: bye Sudane
[2023/04/01 09:55] Mizou Vavoom: bye sudane
[2023/04/01 09:55] Leslie Allandale: Adjourn?
[2023/04/01 09:55] Lilith Ivory: bye Sudane
[2023/04/01 09:55] Sandy Burgess: By the way: If anybody is interested in getting the CN and LA windlights I found out where to get them but they are notrans
[2023/04/01 09:56] Leslie Allandale: ta, Sudane.
[2023/04/01 09:56] Delia Lake: next meeting is April 29 @ 9:30 am?