[08:35] Lilith Ivory: Sudane sent an email she cant come today so I think we CAN GET STARTED
[08:35] Agatha Macbeth: Aww
[08:35] Moon Adamant: 
go for it!
[08:35] Lilith Ivory: SORRY FOR CAPS
[08:36] Agatha Macbeth: OK
[08:36] Moon Adamant: 
[08:36] Lilith Ivory: I allowed myself to create an agenda for today even if I am not the chair
[08:36] Moon Adamant: you did great
[08:36] Breila Jenvieve: Thank you for doing that
[08:36] Delia Lake: Thank you
[08:36] Lilith Ivory: did you all get it?
[08:37] Moon Adamant: thanks, got it
[08:37] Agatha Macbeth did
[08:37] Breila Jenvieve: Yes
[08:37] Rosie Gray nods
[08:37] Agatha Macbeth: Thank you
[08:37] Agatha Macbeth: Compared to RA agendas that is delightfully short...
[08:37] Lilith Ivory: are we all fine with the agenda as it is?
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: or would you like to add something?
[08:38] Delia Lake: yes
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[08:38] Moon Adamant: I am fine with the agenda
[08:38] Breila Jenvieve: Looks good
[08:39] Lilith Ivory: first agenda item is to elect a chair and archivist and a chair pro temp if needed
[08:39] Lilith Ivory: ( I would be willing to take over the office of a char if no one else wants)
[08:40] Moon Adamant: what does the archivist do? (sorry!)
[08:40] Lilith Ivory: the archivist posts a transcript at the forum and writes minutes which also get posted at the forum
[08:40] Moon Adamant: ok, thanks
[08:41] Moon Adamant: Hm... can we propose motions?
[08:41] Lilith Ivory: are there any nominations for the chair?
[08:42] Breila Jenvieve: I would like to nominate Lilith for Chair.
[08:42] Moon Adamant: Breall, exactly
[08:42] Moon Adamant: Brella*
[08:42] Rosie Gray:
[08:42] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:42] Lilith Ivory: all in favour vote aye please
[08:42] Moon Adamant: aye!
[08:42] Agatha Macbeth: Aye
[08:42] Breila Jenvieve: Aye
[08:43] Delia Lake: aye
[08:43] Lilith Ivory: aye
[08:43] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:43] Breila Jenvieve: Thank you, Lilith
[08:43] Lilith Ivory: who would be willing to take over the job as archivist?
[08:43] Agatha Macbeth: Yay here's Kyoko
[08:43] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): cheers
[08:43] Moon Adamant: Thanks Lil
[08:43] Moon Adamant: hi Kyoko
[08:43] Delia Lake: hi Kyoko
[08:44] Rosie Gray: hi Kyoko
[08:44] Lilith Ivory: Hi Kyoko
[08:44] Breila Jenvieve: Hi Kyoko
[08:44] Breila Jenvieve: I have a couple questions, if I may.
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: yes of course
[08:45] Breila Jenvieve: Do the archivist use chat logs to develop a transcript?
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: yes thats the way I always do it when taking transcripts
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: of course you could also buy a nifty chat recorder that sends chat to your email
[08:46] Lilith Ivory: but I personally prefer the old fasioned and simple way 
[08:46] Breila Jenvieve: And is there an example of minutes one could use for reference?
[08:46] Rosie Gray: you can just make a setting in your preferences to record chat
[08:46] Rosie Gray: it's very simple
[08:46] Breila Jenvieve: Good to know.
[08:47] Lilith Ivory: I had that for a while but it filled my log with spam outside of meetings
[08:47] Lilith Ivory: if you want to use that feature Id only turn it on during meetings
[08:47] Breila Jenvieve: Ah true. Like the names of songs (turns off the parcel radio)
[08:48] Delia Lake: lol yes
[08:48] Lilith Ivory: yes and what group notes you get, who came on and off and so on
[08:49] Lilith Ivory: when I take a transcript I always clean things out that dont belong there
[08:49] Lilith Ivory: like group notes and on/off messages
[08:50] Breila Jenvieve: Of course, that's simple enough.
[08:50] Agatha Macbeth: (Turning off timestamps helps too)
[08:50] Moon Adamant: makes sense.... that's private stuff in any case
[08:50] Lilith Ivory: exactly
[08:50] Rosie Gray: TIMEstamps in the transcripts of meetings are useful though
[08:50] Lilith Ivory: yes I leave those in too
[08:50] Breila Jenvieve: I think so too, Rosie.
[08:50] Agatha Macbeth: OK, it's a matter of taste :p
[08:51] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): agrees with Rosie
[08:51] Moon Adamant: yes, for referral
[08:51] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): well usefulness in the situation
[08:51] Breila Jenvieve: It's a good reference point if you need to go in and find something, perhaps.
[08:51] Lilith Ivory: exactly
[08:51] Agatha Macbeth: I always turn them off, nm
[08:52] Lilith Ivory polishes her nails while waiting for one to volunteer
[08:52] Breila Jenvieve: Well, I am happy to help however I can.
[08:52] Breila Jenvieve: (lol lilith)
[08:52] Moon Adamant: yay Brella!
[08:52] Lilith Ivory blushes
[08:53] Lilith Ivory: not only Kyoko is able to do wrong window oopsies
[08:53] Moon Adamant: move to nominate Brella as archivist
[08:53] Delia Lake: thank you Breila
[08:53] Lilith Ivory: thank you Breila
[08:53] Delia Lake: second
[08:53] Lilith Ivory: all in favor vote aye please
[08:53] Agatha Macbeth: Aye
[08:53] Delia Lake: aye
[08:53] Breila Jenvieve: Aye
[08:54] Lilith Ivory: aye
[08:54] Moon Adamant: aye
[08:54] Lilith Ivory: thank you Breila , and let me know if you need any kind of help
[08:54] Breila Jenvieve: Thanks all, I'll do my best!
[08:54] Lilith Ivory: I will add you to the correct role in the LUC announcement forum soon after the meeting
[08:55] Rosie Gray: yay Breila!
[08:55] Breila Jenvieve: Thanks!
[08:55] Moon Adamant: thanks Brella
[08:55] Lilith Ivory: one additional thing before we move on ...
[08:55] Lilith Ivory: have all new LUC members read the LUC act already?
[08:56] Lilith Ivory: if not it might be a good idea to do so
[08:56] Lilith Ivory: https://cdsdemocracy.org/faqs/cdsl-34-0 ... uary-2021/
[08:56] Agatha Macbeth: Oh - no
[08:56] Breila Jenvieve: I think I did, but I'm pulling it up to be sure.
[08:56] Lilith Ivory smiles
[08:56] Agatha Macbeth: Thanks
[08:57] Lilith Ivory: it does explain what we are supposed to do here
[08:57] Lilith Ivory: if there are no further questions we should move forward to old business
[08:58] Moon Adamant: thanks, read it
[08:58] Lilith Ivory smiles
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: A real pathway to the catacombs of Colonia Nova (and a real cave under the Platz in NFS)
[08:58] Moon Adamant listens
[08:59] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): (CDS goes underground...)
[08:59] Lilith Ivory: we dont need to deal with the cave under the platz in Neufreistadt right now as Tor has given me the job to build an event space there ... and Sudane was busy digging more underground tunnels in the Schloss basement
[08:59] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): OMG more?
[08:59] Lilith Ivory: CDS always has a huge like for underground surprises
[09:00] Agatha Macbeth: Priest holes?
[09:00] Moon Adamant loves the CDS underground
[09:00] Lilith Ivory: but what would be nifty was to have a connection from the little cave in Colonia Nova to the catacombes
[09:01] Delia Lake: If we are working there and it's possible without disruption of properties, like a side tunnel under the Platz, we might want to connect to the tombs in the kirche too
[09:01] Delia Lake: there used to be a priest hole, Agatha. don't know if it's still there
[09:01] Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
[09:01] Lilith Ivory: exactly Delia
[09:01] Rosie Gray: what is a priest hole?
[09:01] Lilith Ivory: as far as I know Sudane has taken on this task
[09:01] Delia Lake: ok.
[09:02] Agatha Macbeth: A place where Catholic families would hide priests saying mass after the reformation
[09:02] Breila Jenvieve: During the Engish Reformation (Tudors) Catholicism was made illegal, so it was a place where priests could hide.
[09:02] Agatha Macbeth nods
[09:02] Moon Adamant: about CN, I was having a look at the catacombs the other day, but I am not sure if I found the cave
[09:03] Delia Lake: cave is on the corner beach
[09:03] Lilith Ivory: beside the amphi theatre
[09:03] Moon Adamant: hmm
[09:03] Delia Lake: NE corner of CN
[09:03] Moon Adamant: let me see if i can reach with my camera
[09:03] Rosie Gray: it has an 'experience' as you enter the cave, Moon
[09:03] Rosie Gray: you wont' get that with your camera, of course
[09:03] Moon Adamant: oh great!
[09:04] Moon Adamant: I love the NFS expereinces
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: same experience as at the basement of the Schloss
[09:04] Breila Jenvieve: I need to explore that.
[09:04] Delia Lake: it would be a bit tricky to excavate there but not impossible to go under public lands and roads
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: exactly
[09:04] Moon Adamant: nope, out of reach, I'll go there later
[09:04] Delia Lake: but fun to have
[09:04] Rosie Gray: if there's prim allowance, it would be really great
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: we would need an expert digger tho
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: yes
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: Sudane did a prim count on all regions
[09:05] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): don't want the schloss to collapse
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: ... 1359295665
[09:05] Moon Adamant: I was checking the prim count
[09:05] Delia Lake: the thing is that older sims are squirrely in that they don't dig smoothly or along straight lines
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: you need to scroll down to find it
[09:05] Moon Adamant: ah, curious Delia
[09:06] Delia Lake: but underneath roads if it could be done you wouldn't need many extra prims because the roads would already be the top of the trency
[09:06] Delia Lake: *trench
[09:06] Moon Adamant: and roads are public land, so np either about private parcels
[09:07] Delia Lake: right
[09:07] Breila Jenvieve: So you would install cave-like prims?
[09:07] Delia Lake: imo Sudane is the best terraformer. I'm pretty good but she's better
[09:07] Lilith Ivory: I am all in favour of using the cube republic cave system Rosie used for the little cave
[09:08] Moon Adamant: sorry, Lil, just a clarification... for CN?
[09:08] Rosie Gray: might depend on if it becomes more cave, or tunnels lined with bricks etc.
[09:08] Delia Lake: I have the cube republic cave system also plus other cube rocks
[09:09] Delia Lake: the cube system has good looking inner tunnels
[09:09] Lilith Ivory: oh sorry Colonia Nova
[09:10] Moon Adamant: ok, thanks!
[09:10] Delia Lake: good point, Rosie
[09:10] Moon Adamant: I think we can even have some hybrid...
[09:10] Delia Lake: that will be a design decision
[09:10] Delia Lake: combo could be interesting
[09:11] Moon Adamant: natural rock here and there... man-made for some stretches...
[09:11] Lilith Ivory: what we need to do first is to write a proposal and present it to the chancellor
[09:11] Moon Adamant: what should go in the proposal? technically, I mean
[09:12] Moon Adamant: and btw, you know that I can very easily help with plans, maps, other drawings
[09:12] Lilith Ivory: I would say a plan where the tunnel/cave is going and that we do have enough public prims
[09:12] Lilith Ivory: and how we vision it
[09:13] Delia Lake: also, why are we doing this?
[09:13] Lilith Ivory: exactly
[09:13] Moon Adamant: hmmm ok, seems simple
[09:13] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): giggles
[09:13] Moon Adamant: yes Delia
[09:13] Breila Jenvieve: To clairfy, what is the reason for doing the project?
[09:13] Rosie Gray: btw, think the link to the prim count spreadsheet didn't work earlier.. here is the correct link if you need it:
[09:14] Lilith Ivory: thank you Rosie
[09:14] Breila Jenvieve: Yes, that link works
[09:14] Rosie Gray: bottom of the 'SummaryDetail' tab
[09:14] Delia Lake: What we've talked about is that we have a number of interesting and fun features underground in CN and in NFS.
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: I think we should suggest that Sudane does the terraforming as , like Delia said, she is best doing it
[09:15] Delia Lake: they are 1. not well publicized and 2. only used for special celebration times such as Halloween
[09:15] Delia Lake: people like fun experiences Namasté citizens and visitors alike
[09:16] Delia Lake: if we were to clean these up, connect them and write about them, then publicize them they could be a destination
[09:16] Rosie Gray: that's a great idea
[09:16] Moon Adamant: i agree Delia
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: indeed
[09:16] Breila Jenvieve: Sounds great!
[09:17] Moon Adamant: I also find interesting this idea that relates
[09:17] Moon Adamant: palimpsest
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: hehe, the main tunnel of the catacombes could use a make-over too as the prims there are still the orginal ones from Moon
[09:18] Moon Adamant: lol, really?
[09:18] Delia Lake: yes
[09:18] Moon Adamant: my, they're old
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: I only remade the second part
[09:18] Delia Lake: and there are some places where you fall through when you tp
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: lol I didnt dare to remove your ancient prims completely when doing the last make-over
[09:18] Delia Lake: get stuck between foundations
[09:18] Moon Adamant: I can go and remove them whenever you want
[09:19] Rosie Gray: Moon doesn't realize she is a legend in her own time! hehe
[09:19] Lilith Ivory: hehehe
[09:21] Lilith Ivory: one has to be careful when doing map TP in Colonia Nova and NFS as there is always a good chance to land under ground
[09:21] Moon Adamant: well, CN was built really quickly back then
[09:22] Lilith Ivory: I always loved the original idea to have a sewer system underground
[09:22] Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
[09:22] Rosie Gray: oh interesting idea
[09:22] Moon Adamant: I am sure older stuff can have issues
[09:22] Lilith Ivory: as far as I know back than we had a problem s with not having enough prims
[09:22] Moon Adamant: yes... we didn't have a lot of prims for the cloaca
[09:22] Moon Adamant: exactly
[09:22] Rosie Gray: I can imagine the caves entering the sewer system
[09:22] Delia Lake is now thinking about enormous rats after Moon mentioned sewers
[09:22] Lilith Ivory: YES Rosie
[09:22] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): GROSS!
[09:22] Moon Adamant: that was the original idea
[09:22] Moon Adamant: LOL
[09:22] Rosie Gray: haha, yes!
[09:23] Breila Jenvieve: Yay authenticity
[09:23] Agatha Macbeth: Aww rats are cute
[09:23] Lilith Ivory does have rats and all kind of stuff in her inventory
[09:23] Moon Adamant: we could provide wellingtons
[09:23] Rosie Gray: hehe
[09:23] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): be sure the exit is near Thermae
[09:23] Lilith Ivory: we already provide torches there - thanks to Rosie
[09:23] Delia Lake: hehe, good idea, Kyoko
[09:23] Rosie Gray: torches and darkness
[09:23] Moon Adamant:
[09:24] Lilith Ivory: we could include all that in the proposal
[09:24] Delia Lake notes the need for a shower near the thermae entrance from the catacombs
[09:25] Lilith Ivory: the exit is at Sudanes temple with running water
[09:25] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): oooooo
[09:28] Moon Adamant: ok... so I volunteer for the visual material
[09:28] Lilith Ivory: awesome
[09:28] Lilith Ivory: are you also going to make a plan where the tunnel system will go?
[09:28] Moon Adamant: (I may need that people rez me a bit of the cube system, but let me think about that a little
[09:29] Lilith Ivory: yes
[09:29] Moon Adamant: I need to track it a bit... I guess I'll stop wherever you want it to stop
[09:29] Moon Adamant: so for the moment maybe I can focus on the connection we were discussing
[09:29] Lilith Ivory has no plans to stop Moon
[09:30] Moon Adamant: and later... I never trash files off We can add stuff
[09:30] Delia Lake: I can help, Moon, and show you some of the cube stuff
[09:30] Moon Adamant: ok, thanks Delia
[09:30] Moon Adamant: is there a deadline?
[09:30] Rosie Gray: you can also just go and look at the little cave in CN
[09:30] Rosie Gray: it's very small though
[09:30] Lilith Ivory: this is CDS - we never have a deadline for that sort of thing
[09:30] Moon Adamant: I need to, Rosie
[09:31] Lilith Ivory: Rosie , do you have a LM to the Cube republic store?
[09:31] Lilith Ivory: there are cave systems to look at too
[09:31] Lilith Ivory: or Delia
[09:31] Moon Adamant: and Lil, great But it's rather quick, I think
[09:32] Rosie Gray: oh excellent idea to go and look at them at Cube Republic's display
[09:32] Rosie Gray: he's got it set out beautifully
[09:32] Delia Lake: looking for the newest one that came recently
[09:32] Rosie Gray: yes I have it, who wants it?
[09:32] Moon Adamant: I do, please
[09:33] Second Life: Rosie Gray gave you Cube Republic Store.
[09:33] Breila Jenvieve: You have a LM? I would like one, please.
[09:33] Agatha Macbeth: Thanks Rosie
[09:33] Moon Adamant: thanks Rosie
[09:33] Rosie Gray hands them out to everyone
[09:33] Breila Jenvieve: Thank you1
[09:33] Lilith Ivory: I still think we could ask the chancellor to buy this cave system for Archie so more can work with it
[09:34] Delia Lake: we could
[09:34] Delia Lake: there is more than one system though and they are a little pricey
[09:34] Agatha Macbeth: Who is Archie, sorry?
[09:34] Moon Adamant: the CDS archivist
[09:34] Delia Lake: CDSArchive = Archie
[09:34] Agatha Macbeth: Oh thanks
[09:34] Lilith Ivory: Archie is the CDS archieve Alt
[09:34] Agatha Macbeth: I see
[09:34] Moon Adamant: owns a copy of all buildings, hopefully
[09:34] Delia Lake: the holder of all the public materials
[09:35] Moon Adamant: (except the MoCA)
[09:35] Lilith Ivory coughs ... he is supposed to own them
[09:35] Delia Lake: MoCA archive = MoCAso Oh
[09:35] Delia Lake: but MoCAso doesn't have a copy of the building
[09:36] Moon Adamant: nope
[09:36] Moon Adamant: nobody has
[09:36] Delia Lake: no
[09:36] Lilith Ivory: there was a plan to rebuild the MoCa but this plan got stuck
[09:36] Moon Adamant: the builder materialized in Altenburg, built it and went away
[09:36] Breila Jenvieve: Someone must be listed as the owner.
[09:36] Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
[09:36] Moon Adamant: I LOVE the MoCA
[09:37] Rosie Gray: I do too, Moon
[09:37] Delia Lake: Kendra Bancroft is the name of the builder
[09:37] Rosie Gray: but I think we are in the minority
[09:37] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): still a nice exhibit there that Delia and I did before we left as co-curators
[09:38] Rosie Gray: actually, the MoCa creator's name is Keltrien Baker, and it's owned by Sudane
[09:38] Lilith Ivory: I kinda like it too ... but than I like ALL ancient buildings
[09:38] Breila Jenvieve: Same
[09:38] Agatha Macbeth agrees
[09:38] Rosie Gray: I don't
[09:38] Moon Adamant: the MoCA is part of CDS history... it's almost as old as the rock outcrops
[09:38] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): It's functional with some creative design
[09:38] Rosie Gray: but I do like that one
[09:38] Agatha Macbeth: 
[09:39] Moon Adamant is doing a project for Talenstrasse 1165
[09:39] Lilith Ivory: cool
[09:39] Agatha Macbeth: Great!
[09:39] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): cool
[09:39] Agatha Macbeth: That's near me
[09:40] Lilith Ivory: perhaps we should move on as we are here for one hour already
[09:40] Agatha Macbeth nods
[09:41] Lilith Ivory: to summarize: Moon are you going to work on a plan/proposal for the cave in Colonia Nova so we can talk about it again next meeting?
[09:41] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I may need to leave for an event at 10am
[09:41] Moon Adamant: Lil, yes
[09:41] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[09:41] Lilith Ivory: the next agenda item is:
[09:41] Lilith Ivory: Best landing spots for CDS? Research paid locations and re-organise them (List from Sylvia available)
[09:42] Lilith Ivory: let me pass the list to you
[09:42] Lilith Ivory: I have it as a notecard
[09:43] Lilith Ivory: did you all get it?
[09:43] Rosie Gray: thank you
[09:43] Delia Lake: thanks, Lil
[09:43] Breila Jenvieve: Yes
[09:43] Moon Adamant: thanks
[09:44] Agatha Macbeth: Thank you
[09:44] Lilith Ivory: last term we talked about that we spend a certain amount of money for listings in classifies and that we should do research to see if we can spend that money more wisely
[09:44] Delia Lake raises her hand
[09:44] Moon Adamant: ah, the Monastery one happened to me the other day
[09:45] Lilith Ivory: when we started to talk about this issiue last term we didnt even know for which parcels we were paying
[09:45] Lilith Ivory: yes delia?
[09:46] Delia Lake: it goes along with this list. notice that there is nothing in AM. I suggest that we recommend changing the landing spot in AM to near the Pip Torok Community Center and modify the path accordingly
[09:47] Lilith Ivory: good idea and we should also discuss if we want a paid classified there
[09:47] Lilith Ivory: of course we can only work out recommendations for the chancellor
[09:47] Delia Lake: yes
[09:48] Rosie Gray: I am wondering how we can be paying for the Anzere infohub, because we don't own it
[09:48] Rosie Gray: I wonder if that is accurate
[09:48] Lilith Ivory: for example I am not really sure if we need three classifieds in NFS while we have none in AM
[09:48] Agatha Macbeth: Good point
[09:48] Moon Adamant: I was wondering about that too
[09:49] Moon Adamant: both: Anzere and 3 classifieds
[09:49] Delia Lake: and also, if we are are going to pay for landspot listings, each of these should have short descriptions telling people why they would want to go to that place
[09:49] Lilith Ivory: Sylvia did that research and I trust her this is correct
[09:49] Rosie Gray: we have no control over the land there, or the settings
[09:49] Lilith Ivory: I was thinking we did for a while
[09:49] Moon Adamant: but... I really don't know a thing about this
[09:49] Lilith Ivory: how else could we have rebuild it?
[09:50] Rosie Gray: we can rez
[09:50] Rosie Gray: we can't change the music stream though
[09:50] Rosie Gray: we can't set an environment
[09:50] Rosie Gray: anyway... sorry to interrupt the flow
[09:50] Lilith Ivory: no its good to talk about this imo and we should research how it is possible we pay a classivied for Anzere
[09:51] Rosie Gray: it's interesting
[09:51] Delia Lake: so for instance, Friedsee has the airfield. Friedsee also has "Common Lands" that should probably say beautiful lake for skating in the winter and swimming and picnicking in the summer or some such
[09:51] Lilith Ivory: till next meeting I can dig up the old transcript about when we talked about this first
[09:51] Moon Adamant: good point Delia
[09:51] Moon Adamant: very good point!
[09:51] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): well at some point didn't we own the land and is the infohub on part of that larger parcel? That would explain it possibly
[09:52] Moon Adamant: in fact, I am making a motion to propose to adequately describe teh parcels advertised
[09:52] Delia Lake: Moon, do you remember whether the community ever had control of that land? it was given by LL I believe
[09:52] Lilith Ivory: I do second that!
[09:53] Moon Adamant: I am trying to recall... but I think possibly only Sudane or Gwyn will know remember that
[09:53] Delia Lake: Anzere that is. Hmmm. lag has me answering/posting late in the conversation
[09:53] Lilith Ivory: as we pay 30L$ per week for any classified we should try to get as many traffic out of them as possible
[09:53] Delia Lake: yes, both of them were gov't at that time
[09:55] Lilith Ivory: perhaps we should table that topic till next meeting, hoping Sudane will be able to join us
[09:55] Lilith Ivory: we all can do some research in the meantime
[09:55] Moon Adamant: maybe we can.... organize suggestions for names?
[09:55] Lilith Ivory: good idea
[09:56] Rosie Gray: names for what?
[09:56] Moon Adamant: it's just that... why should I vist a place called Common Lands?
[09:56] Lilith Ivory: lol
[09:56] Rosie Gray: the descriptions of the land... right
[09:56] Lilith Ivory: good point
[09:56] Delia Lake: well we need something better than Common Lands
[09:56] Moon Adamant: yeah, names, suggestions
[09:56] Lilith Ivory: and perhaps also descriptions
[09:56] Rosie Gray nods
[09:56] Moon Adamant: descriptions*
[09:56] Rosie Gray: yes the descriptions are important too, besides the names
[09:56] Moon Adamant: could it be a forum thread?
[09:57] Lilith Ivory: we can put it in LUC discussions
[09:57] Lilith Ivory: or should we put it in general discussion?
[09:57] Rosie Gray: while we're at names... I've always struggled with what to call the CN inner city
[09:57] Rosie Gray: it really doesn't have a name
[09:57] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): centrum?
[09:57] Rosie Gray: the fishing village has a name, but not the town!
[09:57] Moon Adamant: ok, thanks... I'll visit the places and see what they suggest
[09:57] Moon Adamant: ah, hmmm good point
[09:58] Lilith Ivory: I call it downtown CN
[09:58] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): forum is the center center
[09:58] Moon Adamant: you can call it Urb, or Urbe
[09:58] Delia Lake: lol I thought it said Forum
[09:58] Lilith Ivory: yea, the forum is the main plaza
[09:58] Rosie Gray nods
[09:58] Moon Adamant: or Urbis.... whatever is the correct Latin case
[09:59] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I was thinking of Amsterdam's Centrum..a good Latin word
[09:59] Lilith Ivory: or the correct name in italian
[09:59] Delia Lake: yes
[09:59] Rosie Gray: Italian would be better for now
[09:59] Moon Adamant: if IOtalian, you can call it Civita, I suppose
[09:59] Rosie Gray: we ditched the Ancient Roman theme
[09:59] Breila Jenvieve: Centro perhaps
[09:59] Moon Adamant: good lol
[10:00] Moon Adamant: let me see
[10:00] Lilith Ivory: we could ask Laura who is not only italian but also very strict with italian names for locations
[10:00] Rosie Gray: or it could be Greek or Turkish even
[10:00] Rosie Gray: it's meant to be a generic Mediterranean sim
[10:00] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Not for Cologne
[10:01] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): turks didn't get that far north
[10:01] Moon Adamant: ok, from the Italian article on wikipedia for 'city': città
[10:01] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): nods
[10:01] Rosie Gray: Colonia Nova is an ahistorical, southern-European themed sim (Italian/Greek/Spanish or generically northern-Mediterranean)
[10:01] Moon Adamant: maybe loose the accent there
[10:02] Breila Jenvieve: Centro storico is old town, not sure if that would fit.
[10:03] Lilith Ivory: this is exactly what the city of CN is imo
[10:03] Delia Lake: changing topics slightly though all related, I'd like to put Kyoko's signs suggestion that she posted in the Forum on the LUC agenda for the next meeting too
[10:03] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): that is fine with mr
[10:03] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I can write up a better proposal
[10:04] Delia Lake: hmmm Centro Storico. that might work
[10:04] Moon Adamant: you can also use quartier storico
[10:04] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): and I need to go take a nap LOL
[10:04] Rosie Gray:
[10:04] Agatha Macbeth: Sweet dreams
[10:05] Lilith Ivory: see you Kyoko
[10:05] Moon Adamant: quartiere*
[10:05] Breila Jenvieve: Take care Kyoko
[10:05] Moon Adamant: cheers Kyoko!
[10:05] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): good to see the LUC back in the saddle with a great set of members
[10:05] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): ta for now
[10:06] Cam Holiday is online.
[10:06] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:06] Moon Adamant: hmmm one question, even if we table this issue for later
[10:06] Lilith Ivory: yes?
[10:07] Moon Adamant: is it meant that we fall inside the waterfall at Monastery?
[10:07] Breila Jenvieve: I had that happen to me as well
[10:07] Moon Adamant: we land*
[10:07] Lilith Ivory: are you talking about the landing point?
[10:07] Moon Adamant: yeah
[10:07] Lilith Ivory: we do need to change that !
[10:07] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane) is offline.
[10:07] Breila Jenvieve: I believe it misses a nearby bridge
[10:08] Rosie Gray: the bridge was probably moved a bit at some point, but not the landing point
[10:08] Agatha Macbeth: Would be a blessing in this weather...
[10:08] Rosie Gray: it's an easy fix
[10:08] Moon Adamant: possibly, yes
[10:08] Lilith Ivory: I would suggest to have the landing point in front of the Gasthaus
[10:08] Breila Jenvieve: True Agatha!
[10:08] Lilith Ivory: or of course we could also have it in front of the Monastery
[10:09] Rosie Gray: the Monastery itself might be more appropriate
[10:09] Breila Jenvieve: I would agree.
[10:09] Rosie Gray: but still on the public lands
[10:09] Moon Adamant: where do you want to bring people to?
[10:09] Lilith Ivory: I am fine with that
[10:09] Lilith Ivory: as all but the Monastery are private parcels the Monastery would be best
[10:10] Lilith Ivory: its privately owned too but open for public
[10:10] Breila Jenvieve: And I believe is your biggest draw to the area.
[10:10] Lilith Ivory: the Monastery is even in the destination guide
[10:10] Moon Adamant: then I would agree
[10:11] Moon Adamant: oh, even better
[10:11] Lilith Ivory: Aria managed it to get the Monastery in there while she was still the owner
[10:12] Rosie Gray: I do think that the destination guide is not difficult to get registered in
[10:12] Rosie Gray: it's not some big secret process or anything... I was looking at them all just the other day
[10:12] Lilith Ivory: in this case we should take more advantage of this way to advertise CDS
[10:12] Moon Adamant: I am seeing that there's a big tree outside with a sign next to it
[10:13] Rosie Gray: yes, it's a matter of someone doing it... I always thought that would be the job of the PIO
[10:13] Rosie Gray: or the Chancellor
[10:13] Rosie Gray: I did a couple of them when I was Chancellor, but it's a bit time consuming
[10:14] Delia Lake: Tor has done some in the past also
[10:14] Lilith Ivory: yes but if we can work together working out a recommendation it would move some burden of the shoulders of the chancellor
[10:14] Moon Adamant: hm yes
[10:14] Rosie Gray: agreed, Lilith
[10:14] Moon Adamant: and it's really sending the Chancellor a LM
[10:14] Lilith Ivory: after all we are here for recommendations and not a building club
[10:14] Rosie Gray:
[10:15] Moon Adamant: lol yes
[10:15] Moon Adamant: so what say you all?
[10:15] Lilith Ivory: I think we dont need to ask the chancellor for permission to move the main landingpoint out of the water
[10:16] Rosie Gray: hehe
[10:16] Moon Adamant: yeah
[10:16] Rosie Gray: not our current Chancellor anyway... I can recall a couple of them though that would FIRE you if you dared to do that!
[10:16] Lilith Ivory: I guess it was moved there for a skating event
[10:16] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[10:17] Agatha Macbeth: Agreed
[10:18] Lilith Ivory: if you want I can set the new landing point in front of the Monastery after this meeting
[10:18] Lilith Ivory knows Tor does not dare to fire Lilith
[10:18] Moon Adamant: I think it great!
[10:18] Moon Adamant: lol
[10:18] Rosie Gray grins
[10:19] Moon Adamant: I think I saw the remains of chancellors past
[10:19] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[10:20] Delia Lake: if the landing tp says Monastery then it should place people there
[10:20] Lilith Ivory: are you talking about the skeletons in the catacombes or the portraits in the schloss?
[10:20] Moon Adamant: skeletons
[10:20] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[10:21] Moon Adamant: I am saving the list of listings (this sentence is odd) to go to those later on
[10:22] Lilith Ivory: we might have to change the description of the land if we want the tp to say anything else than common land I guess
[10:22] Agatha Macbeth: A list list :p
[10:22] Lilith Ivory: CDS does not need to pay for a classified there as Tan already pays for ione inside of the Monastery parcel
[10:23] Delia Lake: Common Land isn't a useful description unless you are part of the government planning functions
[10:23] Delia Lake: even then it's not really helpful
[10:23] Breila Jenvieve: But a place for a picnic is a nice description.
[10:23] Moon Adamant: but maybe as a matter of principle all CDS sims should have a listing... I am not sure about this, it's the first time I am thinking about it
[10:24] Lilith Ivory: canging parcel name and description sadly is more than I can do right now as work is piling up for me in RL
[10:24] Rosie Gray: I think they should all have at least one listing
[10:24] Moon Adamant: I agree Brella
[10:24] Lilith Ivory: I agree
[10:24] Rosie Gray: yes, agree Breila
[10:25] Moon Adamant: Lil, start a forum thread, maybe?
[10:25] Rosie Gray: so there's two things that need updating, right? the parcel name, and the parcel description
[10:25] Lilith Ivory: about what exactly?
[10:25] Moon Adamant: oh, name and descriptions of lands listed
[10:25] Lilith Ivory: what we started talking about was to change the TP location
[10:25] Breila Jenvieve: Just for the paid parcels?
[10:25] Lilith Ivory: ah ok
[10:25] Delia Lake: good idea. and within that ask people how they get around the CDS -- walk, fly, tp, vehicle. other?
[10:26] Moon Adamant: it's two issues lol
[10:26] Rosie Gray: for the public land parcels, Breila
[10:26] Breila Jenvieve: Okay.
[10:26] Lilith Ivory: in NFS we have Western Highway for example
[10:26] Rosie Gray: for instance, I'm just looking at the markplatz parcel which looks really good
[10:27] Rosie Gray: Name: Markplatz, Centre of the historic city of Neufreistadt, CDS Description: One of the six regions of Confederation of Democratic Sims (CDS).Centre of commerce and culture in the historic City of Neufreistadt, Zentrum des Handels und der Kultur in der historischen Stadt Neufreistadt, Confederation Demokratischer Sims (CDS).
[10:27] Delia Lake: yes,
[10:27] Lilith Ivory: sounds very good
[10:27] Moon Adamant: yes, we should aim for something like that for all of them
[10:28] Lilith Ivory: I agree
[10:28] Delia Lake: yes
[10:28] Breila Jenvieve: Agreed
[10:29] Lilith Ivory: perhaps we can come up with description and name drafts at our next meeting?
[10:29] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:30] Moon Adamant is looking at Eric Linden's stonecrops
[10:30] Lilith Ivory smiles
[10:31] Lilith Ivory: this is the most important historic monument of CDS I think
[10:31] Lilith Ivory: and btw, I love the sigh Rosie created for it
[10:31] Moon Adamant: me too
[10:31] Rosie Gray: thanks! I was afraid someone was going to return it!
[10:31] Rosie Gray: the rocks, I mean
[10:31] Lilith Ivory: yes, my constant concern too
[10:31] Moon Adamant: i was just thinking that Brella is right
[10:31] Delia Lake: someone might have done that. good thinking and move, Rosie
[10:32] Moon Adamant: we can say what people can do at places
[10:32] Lilith Ivory: when doing a classified key words are important
[10:32] Breila Jenvieve: Agreed
[10:33] Moon Adamant: Historic Prims! Meet the History of SL ;.)
[10:33] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[10:33] Delia Lake: I do think in the Forum post we should not only ask people how they get around the CDS but whether they ever take time to just explore or do they always go right to their destinations
[10:34] Lilith Ivory: I love the sign Sudane has on her parcels in the snowlands, explaining the history of Anzere btw
[10:34] Lilith Ivory: just as a sidenote
[10:34] Moon Adamant: good idea Delia
[10:34] Lilith Ivory: yes
[10:34] Breila Jenvieve: I'm a big fan of signs with a bit of information. I read all those.
[10:34] Moon Adamant: and you can encourage people visiting around, mind... do a photo competition
[10:35] Breila Jenvieve: Ooh, nice idea!
[10:35] Lilith Ivory: Delia, could you perhaps start this post as at the moment I have my mind focused more on my RL work
[10:36] Delia Lake: yes i can do that later this eve
[10:36] Lilith Ivory: I could ask for suggestions about names and descriptions today but more is a bit much for me
[10:36] Lilith Ivory: thank you Delia
[10:36] Lilith Ivory: I alwasy liked the idea of having a phote competition
[10:36] Lilith Ivory: photo
[10:37] Lilith Ivory: not only for citizens but also for visitors
[10:37] Delia Lake: that's a good idea too
[10:37] Moon Adamant: I am always taking photos myself, and doing experiemnts with post-processing in Photoshop
[10:37] Rosie Gray: yes!
[10:37] Delia Lake: citizen photo will be chosen for the landing spot lm
[10:37] Moon Adamant: and Flickr is a super-media for SL
[10:37] Rosie Gray: could even have a few different categories
[10:37] Delia Lake: will ask Tor about that
[10:38] Lilith Ivory: yes advertising this in flikr would be goo
[10:38] Moon Adamant: you can have an ongoing competition... check hmm BBC's pics of teh week
[10:38] Rosie Gray: yeah, he'd need to dedicate some money for prizes I guess
[10:38] Lilith Ivory: hee we could offer one month free housing at one of our permanent yellow parcels for the winner
[10:38] Moon Adamant: which is not even a competition... just a showcase with a weekly theme
[10:38] Rosie Gray: or that! even better!
[10:38] Lilith Ivory: right
[10:38] Moon Adamant: lol Lil, yes
[10:39] Lilith Ivory: sadly I have to run back to RL soon
[10:39] Lilith Ivory: can we agree on a time for our next meeting?
[10:39] Moon Adamant: sure!
[10:40] Delia Lake: me too. I have a dog standing next to me with his legs crossed. needs to go out soon
[10:40] Lilith Ivory: aawwww
[10:40] Rosie Gray: hehe
[10:40] Agatha Macbeth: Erk
[10:40] Breila Jenvieve: How often should we meet?
[10:41] Moon Adamant: what was the timing in past terms?
[10:41] Lilith Ivory: good question
[10:41] Moon Adamant: or it varied, according to matters in hand?
[10:41] Rosie Gray: in the past it has been varied
[10:41] Rosie Gray: but at least once a month
[10:41] Lilith Ivory: last term we tried once per moth but as we have a full agenda we could meet more often too
[10:41] Rosie Gray: sometimes twice a month
[10:41] Delia Lake: mostly monthly but more often when working on a project
[10:42] Lilith Ivory: the next possible date that does not conflict with other meetings would be august 13th
[10:42] Breila Jenvieve: Since we still have agenda items, perhaps twice a month would be appropriate for now.
[10:42] Moon Adamant: august 13th works for me as far as I can see
[10:42] Agatha Macbeth: Me too
[10:42] Lilith Ivory: would work for me too
[10:42] Breila Jenvieve: I am free August 13
[10:43] Delia Lake: not sure on that date as my daughter may be visiting but I'll try for that
[10:43] Lilith Ivory: normally Sudane is available on saturdays too
[10:43] Breila Jenvieve: Should we set it temporarily for August 13 at 8:30 SLT?
[10:43] Lilith Ivory: ok, lets aim for saturday august 13 at 8:30 again
[10:43] Agatha Macbeth: Ok
[10:44] Lilith Ivory: great
[10:44] Moon Adamant: great! already in my calendar
[10:44] Lilith Ivory: I will add it to the CDS calendar too
[10:45] Lilith Ivory: is there anything more to discuss or should we adjourn?
[10:45] Rosie Gray: I have to run... good work from you all, the LUC is in good hands ㋡
[10:45] Breila Jenvieve: Lilith, can I send you drafts of the meeting notes for review, just to make sure they're okay?
[10:45] Agatha Macbeth: Happy dog walking
[10:45] Lilith Ivory: thank you Rosie , bye
[10:45] Moon Adamant: move to adjourn
[10:45] Breila Jenvieve: Bye Rosie!
[10:45] Lilith Ivory: bye all
[10:45] Rosie Gray: bye everyone!
[10:45] Moon Adamant: bye Rosie
[10:45] Breila Jenvieve: Second
[10:45] Lilith Ivory: thanks all for being here today, this was a good meeting
[10:45] Moon Adamant: Thanks Lil !
[10:45] Agatha Macbeth: Yay
[10:46] Delia Lake: yes, good meeting. and my dog thanks you all for releasing me
[10:46] Moon Adamant: and thanks everyone, lots of good ideas
[10:46] Lilith Ivory: I will add you all to the LUC group and Breila as archivist so she can post