[9:14] Moon Adamant: hmmm, we have full quorum, so i suggest we start
[9:15] Rose Springvale: hehe
[9:15] Sudane Erato: yes!
[9:15] Rose Springvale: we already have!
[9:15] Sudane Erato: hehe
[9:15] Moon Adamant: please touch the green box for agenda
[9:15] Rose Springvale: we are half way thru item one on the agendalol
[9:15] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[9:15] Moon Adamant: and do remember this meeting is transcripted
[9:15] Moon Adamant: hmmm, laggy
[9:16] Symo Kurka: Hey today click on green box does not work
[9:16] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:16] Sudane Erato: it will... eventually
[9:16] Rose Springvale pours moon coffee
[9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: 
[9:16] Moon Adamant: lol
[9:16] Symo Kurka: ok it works now
[9:16] Symo Kurka: SL slow
[9:16] Moon Adamant: it's very slow
[9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: it takes a huge amount of time, yes, Symo
[9:16] Symo Kurka: sugar Moon?
[9:16] Sudane Erato: its Sunday
[9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *sigh*
[9:16] Moon Adamant: of course 
[9:16] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:16] Moon Adamant: point 1
[9:16] Sudane Erato: and, remember, F Linden announced they were going to fix it
[9:17] Cindy Ecksol: new client seems fine....I am not noticing any significant lag problems using it today
[9:17] Moon Adamant: .1. Election of the Secretary of the Board
[9:17] Sudane Erato: so we KNOW it will be slow
[9:17] Moon Adamant: as you know
[9:17] Moon Adamant: our charter states that the election of the Secreatry of teh board must happen within 15 days of a CDS general election
[9:18] Moon Adamant: i have called the election last week and asked runners-up to declare their intention to run
[9:18] Moon Adamant: in a special thread in our forums
[9:18] Moon Adamant: no runners-up have appeared
[9:19] Symo Kurka: ?? really??
[9:19] Rose Springvale: smile
[9:19] Sudane Erato:
[9:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: 
[9:19] Moon Adamant: but i will stil ask amongst the present if there is anyone willing to run for the role?
[9:19] Sudane Erato: besides Moon
[9:19] Cindy Ecksol: in the absence of other candidates, I move that we declare moon secy by acclamation
[9:20] Sudane Erato: second
[9:20] Moon Adamant: er
[9:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[9:20] Lilith Ivory smiles
[9:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: sneaky, Cindy 
[9:20] Moon Adamant: i still think we must hold a vote
[9:20] Rose Springvale: all in favor?
[9:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye !
[9:20] Sudane Erato: aye!
[9:20] Rose Springvale: smile aye!
[9:20] Lilith Ivory: aye
[9:20] Symo Kurka: I have to warn you Moon, it will be a tough term
[9:20] Pip Torok: aye
[9:20] Sudane Erato: lol
[9:20] Timo Gufler: aye
[9:20] Moon Adamant: sighs
[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn smiles
[9:21] Symo Kurka: you'll have a hostile LRA and a HUGE amount og job to do
[9:21] Sudane Erato:
[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha
[9:21] Moon Adamant: Symo )
[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and we haven't seen who will be the Exec....
[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[9:21] Moon Adamant: we can always organize a mudfight
[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aha yes
[9:21] Symo Kurka: lol
[9:21] Sudane Erato: yes!!
[9:21] Moon Adamant: ok, anyone missing to vote?
[9:22] Rose Springvale: you
[9:22] Symo Kurka: use a bit more that arena
[9:22] Moon Adamant: ah, i abstain
[9:22] Cindy Ecksol: oooh, mudfight!
[9:22] Moon Adamant: motion carries
[9:22] Cindy Ecksol: aye
[9:22] Rose Springvale: congratulations!
[9:22] Symo Kurka: I abstain too, I did not vote
[9:22] Rose Springvale: oh
[9:22] Rose Springvale: symo you just harrassed
[9:22] Moon Adamant: well, you can vote Symo
[9:22] Pip Torok: congratulations!
[9:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn applauds
[9:22] Moon Adamant: well
[9:22] Lilith Ivory: congrats
[9:22] Moon Adamant: thanks everyone
[9:22] Moon Adamant: once again
[9:23] Symo Kurka: i prefer not to mix up roles, i'll try to follow your meetings but i will not vote
[9:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[9:23] Moon Adamant: we will try to carry on doing our best work here at the Guild
[9:23] Timo Gufler: good
[9:23] Moon Adamant: we have ongoing projects and new work to do for this term
[9:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye, Ms Secretary
[9:24] Moon Adamant: but i feel certain that we all can do them perfectly
[9:24] Sudane Erato: yes!
[9:24] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:24] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[9:24] Moon Adamant: point 2
[9:24] Moon Adamant: 2. Election of the Chair of Faculty
[9:24] Moon Adamant: members of teh Faculty present?
[9:24] Moon Adamant: looks around
[9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn looks around too
[9:25] Pip Torok: (faculty?)
[9:25] Rose Springvale: symo, sudane, you, gwyn?
[9:25] Moon Adamant: Gwyn isn't
[9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: not me!
[9:25] Rose Springvale: then jst the thre of you
[9:25] Moon Adamant: and i don't hold a vote
[9:25] Rose Springvale: just, three *
[9:25] Sudane Erato: i wish we had a clearer definition of faculty
[9:25] Rose Springvale: um sudane?
[9:25] Symo Kurka: hmm i suppose i am in it, not sure though
[9:25] Rose Springvale: i dont' think symo can do it
[9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: even clearer?
[9:25] Moon Adamant: so i don't think we have quorum
[9:26] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:26] Symo Kurka: no i SURELY cannot
[9:26] Timo Gufler: isn't it defined somewhere?
[9:26] Sudane Erato: why is not everyone faculty... who wishes to be?
[9:26] Sudane Erato: and who can contribute something
[9:26] Pip Torok: what exactly _is_ faculty?
[9:27] Sudane Erato: thats my question too
[9:27] Moon Adamant: ok, let me answer Pip first
[9:27] Moon Adamant: from our charter
[9:27] Moon Adamant: 2. The Faculty
1.The Faculty is a self-appointed meritocratic body, whose members have shown competence in the development of content and/or providing education.
[9:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: example: jon, who does his Builder's Gymnasium classes
[9:28] Moon Adamant: exactly
[9:28] Pip Torok: ah!
[9:28] Rose Springvale: it used to be active and helpful
[9:28] Rose Springvale: but seems to depend on the whims of its chair
[9:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: like most things, Rose dear
[9:28] Moon Adamant: the Faculty has kept a very open attitude and has voted in several members due to excellence of work done
[9:28] Moon Adamant: in board projects
[9:28] Rose Springvale: smile
[9:29] Rose Springvale: who is on the faculty?
[9:29] Symo Kurka: Educational projects don't seem to be very popular in CDS
[9:29] Moon Adamant: ah, always that question lol
[9:29] Moon Adamant: let me see
[9:29] Rose Springvale: i've asked for eduational projects as pio, specifically three times and they are never done
[9:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: just Jon...
[9:30] Moon Adamant: hmmm, don't have tim eto go looking in teh forums
[9:30] Symo Kurka: how many students did Jon have?
[9:30] Sudane Erato: thats why we elect a new chairperson
[9:30] Rose Springvale: i remember brian, alexicon
[9:30] Moon Adamant: but members are Arria, symo, Jon, Sudane, Dnate, Brian, Alexicon
[9:30] Moon Adamant: i am sure i am forgetting someone here
[9:31] Sudane Erato: yes, you
[9:31] Moon Adamant: and myself, but as Secretary of the Board i hold no vote
[9:31] Moon Adamant: and thus we have a problem today
[9:31] Timo Gufler: the portal says also Samatha Fuller
[9:31] Moon Adamant: since we don't have minimal quorum
[9:31] Moon Adamant: ah, yes, Sam indeed
[9:31] Rose Springvale: wait
[9:32] Rose Springvale: do WE vote the faculty chair, or does faculty
[9:32] Sudane Erato: and Timo should be faculty, since he has contributed valuable programming
[9:32] Rose Springvale: we have a quorum
[9:32] Moon Adamant: faculty does
[9:32] Timo Gufler: eh
[9:32] Rose Springvale: then why on our agenda?
[9:32] Moon Adamant: no, but the election is internal to faculty, thus i asked for the faculty members present
[9:32] Moon Adamant: because Arria scheduled the election for this date as well
[9:33] Moon Adamant: and i can conduct the election process
[9:33] Rose Springvale: ah, so.. she's not here
[9:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[9:33] Moon Adamant: but just can't vote
[9:33] Rose Springvale: shole we dissolve the faculty?
[9:33] Rose Springvale: should
[9:33] Sudane Erato: can we consider ammending things, to enable the chair to be a non-faculty?
[9:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: noooo
[9:33] Sudane Erato: because... the chair needs to be an organizer
[9:33] Moon Adamant: i would prefer to keep the Faculty as a check on the Secretary of teh Board
[9:34] Cindy Ecksol: but moon...if the faculty never meets.....?
[9:34] Rose Springvale: i would rather it be a subcommittee
[9:34] Rose Springvale: and keep the guild less elite
[9:34] Moon Adamant: well, hmmm
[9:34] Rose Springvale: because if I feel jilted, i'm sure others do too
[9:34] Moon Adamant: this board is sovereign
[9:34] Rose Springvale: and there appear to be no standards
[9:35] Sudane Erato: you were jilted?
[9:35] Moon Adamant: and can ammend our charter, provided it is voted again by the RA
[9:35] Rose Springvale: no, i feel jilted
[9:35] Rose Springvale: have never been invited into the club
[9:35] Moon Adamant: i have read the forums too and heard similar suggestions
[9:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: awwweee
[9:35] Sudane Erato: thats why it needs repair
[9:35] Moon Adamant: what i would suggest
[9:36] Symo Kurka does not find "jilted" in Oxford Dictinary
[9:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[9:36] Rose Springvale: hmm
[9:36] Sudane Erato: if the club is compsoed of people who have displayed compency... then it should include all who have contributed
[9:36] Rose Springvale: to be left out
[9:36] Moon Adamant: is that we open discussion on the role of Faculty, but elect a Chair if possible on the next meeting
[9:36] Timo Gufler: symo: jilted, rejected, spurned
[9:36] Timo Gufler: (from dictionary)
[9:37] Moon Adamant: i can open a thread on the issue at the Guild's forum
[9:37] Moon Adamant: but i maintain that i like the check and balance system
[9:37] Moon Adamant: even if the Faculty hasn't met of late
[9:38] Moon Adamant: so what do you say?
[9:38] Pip Torok: i agree with Moon
[9:38] Symo Kurka: Yes open a thread resuming Faculty's goals and seeing if we can update
[9:39] Moon Adamant: if all agree, i will then
[9:39] Moon Adamant: and i move that the election of teh Faculty Chair is adjourned to next week
[9:40] Moon Adamant: seeing we don't have quorum 40 minutes after the convocation
[9:40] Moon Adamant: anyone seconds?
[9:40] Pip Torok: second
[9:40] Sudane Erato: second
[9:40] Symo Kurka: second
[9:40] Moon Adamant: ok, all agreeing then
[9:40] Pip Torok: aye
[9:41] Sudane Erato: aye
[9:41] Rose Springvale: abstain
[9:41] Timo Gufler: aye
[9:41] Moon Adamant: in establishing a dedicated thread to the role of the Faculty and adjourning the Chair election to next week, please say aye
[9:41] Timo Gufler: aye
[9:41] Lilith Ivory: aye
[9:42] Pip Torok: aye
[9:42] Symo Kurka: i substantially agree but dio not vote
[9:42] Cindy Ecksol: aye
[9:43] Moon Adamant: Gwyn is away...
[9:43] Moon Adamant: i will vote and she can state her vote later for teh record
[9:43] Moon Adamant: aye
[9:43] Moon Adamant: motion carries
[9:44] Moon Adamant: i will also try personally by mail that we have a faculty quorum here next week
[9:44] Rose Springvale: may i say something?
[9:44] Moon Adamant: of course
[9:44] Rose Springvale: there used to be clear standards on what was expected of and required to be faculty
[9:44] Rose Springvale: i remember a service requirement
[9:44] Moon Adamant: exactly
[9:44] Rose Springvale: i encourage that to be reinstated if there is to be a faculty
[9:45] Rose Springvale: because it does not look good
[9:45] Moon Adamant: hmmmm
[9:45] Rose Springvale: for the New Guild to harbor elitism
[9:45] Rose Springvale: and if there are not standards
[9:45] Moon Adamant: i understand what you say
[9:45] Rose Springvale: okay
[9:45] Moon Adamant: but i think that the new Chair must be consulted about that
[9:46] Moon Adamant: because of the difficulty in enforcing that requirement
[9:46] Moon Adamant: in any case, it is surely a point to be discussed
[9:46] Rose Springvale: but you see
[9:46] Moon Adamant: if we considered the service requirement alone
[9:46] Rose Springvale: by putting it over tothe facutly
[9:46] Moon Adamant: i think only Jon has met it
[9:46] Rose Springvale: and taking it off the guild agenda
[9:47] Rose Springvale: no, i'd say that Lilith has
[9:47] Moon Adamant: and Symo
[9:47] Rose Springvale: and cindy
[9:47] Rose Springvale: and timo
[9:47] Moon Adamant: ah, i see what you mean
[9:47] Sudane Erato: yes... the definition of faculty is quite unrealistic
[9:47] Rose Springvale: but no one knows
[9:47] Moon Adamant: indeed, that's unfair
[9:47] Moon Adamant: we must certainly discuss this point over
[9:47] Rose Springvale: the chari has faild in my opinion
[9:48] Rose Springvale: and we should recover that responsibility to the guild
[9:48] Timo Gufler: I think there should be more "talent hunting"
[9:48] Rose Springvale: we have TONs of talent
[9:48] Moon Adamant: in my personal opinion
[9:48] Rose Springvale: Cadence
[9:48] Rose Springvale: too
[9:48] Rose Springvale: Satir
[9:48] Moon Adamant: i think that Faculty should be simplified
[9:49] Moon Adamant: and mind you, i wrote the drat charter
[9:49] Moon Adamant: based on the previious one
[9:49] Rose Springvale: then lets form a workgroup to revisit the faculty
[9:49] Sudane Erato: hehe... Jon claims that he did
[9:49] Moon Adamant: but i think now that Fac must be more simple
[9:49] Moon Adamant: he did write the first charter of teh New guild
[9:50] Sudane Erato: ahh... i see
[9:50] Moon Adamant: and i am sorry that he isn't here today to discuss this with us
[9:50] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:50] Moon Adamant: since the primordial vision of the NG was his
[9:50] Rose Springvale: i think the facutly as originally iterated and executed was great
[9:51] Moon Adamant: thus i prefer to send this to the forums
[9:51] Rose Springvale: i think it's leadership has failed.
[9:51] Cindy Ecksol loves being part of a group that has a "primordial vision"
[9:51] Sudane Erato: hehe
[9:51] Moon Adamant: lol cindy
[9:51] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[9:51] Rose Springvale: i move that we have an inworld work group as well
[9:51] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:51] Moon Adamant: hmmmm, ok, anyone seconds?
[9:51] Cindy Ecksol: second
[9:51] Rose Springvale: as the forums are not always the best place for real discussion
[9:52] Cindy Ecksol: I agree with rose -- forums arena't always the best place to get stuff done
[9:52] Cindy Ecksol: I agree with rose -- forums arena't always the best place to get stuff done
[9:52] Moon Adamant: ok, then all agreeing in holding a inworld discussion group about the Fac roles, please say Aye
[9:52] Sudane Erato: aye
[9:52] Cindy Ecksol: aye
[9:52] Lilith Ivory: aye
[9:52] Timo Gufler: aye
[9:52] Pip Torok: aye
[9:52] Rose Springvale: aye
[9:52] Moon Adamant: Gwyn is still away....
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[9:52] Moon Adamant: oh
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: sorry
[9:52] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: )))
[9:53] Moon Adamant: do you know what we are voting? 
[9:53] Rose Springvale: i'd love for jon to chair it. can we nominate him?
[9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Moon Adamant: ok, then all agreeing in holding a inworld discussion group about the Fac roles, please say Aye
[9:53] Moon Adamant: i say aye as well
[9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (don't you love chat logs?
[9:53] Moon Adamant: motion carries
[9:53] Lilith Ivory smiles
[9:54] Moon Adamant: volunteer to chair this discussion group?
[9:54] Rose Springvale: i nominate Jon lol
[9:54] Sudane Erato: second
[9:54] Rose Springvale: primordial vision needed
[9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (I *knew* there was going to be a bad thing after the vote)
[9:54] Moon Adamant: lol, finest CDS tradition, i see....
[9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Jon's perfect thouh, specially because he can't object here and now!
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *though
[9:55] Moon Adamant: Guys, we can't throw this on his back
[9:55] Moon Adamant: i propose that we ASK him first of all
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: poor Jon
[9:55] Rose Springvale: we can ask him can't we?
[9:55] Pip Torok: agree that we ask first
[9:55] Rose Springvale: he can decline the nomination. lets table the vote
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: In that case, it's more legitimate to ask him first
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes,
[9:55] Symo Kurka: ofcourse
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I second Rose
[9:55] Moon Adamant: i do as well
[9:56] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:56] Rose Springvale: i want to pu tin the record that it honors the spirit of the guild to go back to its roots
[9:56] Moon Adamant: please do!
[9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[9:56] Rose Springvale: it was never meant to be political, at least as far as i've seen
[9:56] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:57] Moon Adamant: no, strictly apolitical
[9:57] Moon Adamant: i do insist on that
[9:57] Rose Springvale: done
[9:57] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:57] Moon Adamant: let's move to point 3
[9:58] Moon Adamant: but before that
[9:58] Moon Adamant: since we held elections
[9:58] Moon Adamant: may i ask you Rose
[9:58] Moon Adamant: please to post a summary of the votes?
[9:58] Rose Springvale: yes
[9:58] Moon Adamant: thank you
[9:58] Rose Springvale: do we need to re elect the rest of the board?
[9:58] Moon Adamant: ok, point 3
[9:58] Moon Adamant: no
[9:59] Moon Adamant: the rest of teh board is nominated by me
[9:59] Rose Springvale: ah
[9:59] Moon Adamant: and i reconfirm you and Sudane
[9:59] Rose Springvale: um
[9:59] Moon Adamant: of course, if you insist, we can hold a vote
[9:59] Sudane Erato: i thought that the board is every citizen who shows up
[9:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[9:59] Moon Adamant: no, Rose means teh heads of departments
[9:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[9:59] Rose Springvale: depending on what happens in the next couple of weeks, i may have to quit, but for now, okay.
[10:00] Sudane Erato: i see
[10:00] Moon Adamant: let me read the charter, just a sec
[10:01] Moon Adamant: ah, we have to vote you
[10:01] Moon Adamant: 14.Officers of both departments are nominated by the Secretary of the Board, with the approval of a simple majority of the Board.
[10:01] Moon Adamant: ok, motion to vote
[10:01] Rose Springvale: that's what i thought
[10:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hmm
[10:01] Rose Springvale: can we wait for this vote
[10:01] Rose Springvale: ?
[10:01] Moon Adamant: yes, it's a long text
[10:01] Rose Springvale: i'd like to disuss it
[10:01] Moon Adamant: surely
[10:01] Rose Springvale: discuss
[10:01] Moon Adamant: ok, you have the table
[10:01] Rose Springvale: no, not today lol
[10:01] Moon Adamant: ah ok
[10:02] Moon Adamant: we can postpone this vote then for next week
[10:02] Rose Springvale: okay
[10:02] Rose Springvale: thank you
[10:02] Moon Adamant: all agreeing?
[10:02] Cindy Ecksol: aye
[10:02] Pip Torok: agree
[10:02] Timo Gufler: abstain
[10:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: abstain too.... mmh I don't understand, why can't we discuss today?
[10:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah because Rose needs to prepare something?
[10:03] Rose Springvale: no
[10:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh?
[10:03] Pip Torok: ?
[10:03] Sudane Erato: because Rose proposed we discuss it... but said she wasn't ready to do so
[10:03] Moon Adamant: like Sudane said
[10:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: like I said too lol
[10:04] Sudane Erato:
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: but Rose said "no".... I guess that was her vote?
[10:04] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn is very confused
[10:04] Rose Springvale: gwyn
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes?
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: 8and that yes wasn't a vote )
[10:04] Rose Springvale: i am not ready to be confirmed in a postition today
[10:04] Rose Springvale: and i want to discuss it with Moon
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok... because... you need to prepare something first?
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: well, Moon's here
[10:04] Moon Adamant: fair enough
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Transparency, dear, transparency!
[10:04] Rose Springvale: but it isn't apropriate to take up board time for personal isues
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aaah
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn is slow today
[10:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok then
[10:05] Moon Adamant:
[10:05] Rose Springvale: so if we need to do it today, i will decline the nomination
[10:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, ok
[10:05] Kattie Belgar: hallo
[10:05] Moon Adamant: no, i prefer to hold it next week, if you all do not mind
[10:05] Cindy Ecksol thinks we just agreed to do it next week....
[10:05] Moon Adamant: hello Kattie
[10:05] Lilith Ivory: hi Kattie
[10:05] Rose Springvale: hey Kattie! welcome!
[10:05] Timo Gufler: hi Kattie
[10:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Cindy, yes, more than enough votes for that
[10:05] Moon Adamant: this is a New guild board meeting, which is transcripted
[10:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and hi Kattie
[10:05] Pip Torok: hi kattie
[10:06] Kattie Belgar: its difficult to see where is free
[10:06] Moon Adamant: feel free to join us if you're a citizen, agenda on the green box
[10:06] Rose Springvale: shes' not quite.. yet...
[10:06] Rose Springvale: but i'm getting her closer
[10:06] Sudane Erato:
[10:06] Timo Gufler: hehe
[10:06] Rose Springvale: so she can observe but not vote
[10:06] Moon Adamant: if you're not a citizen, we welcome you, but please abstain from voting
[10:06] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:06] Moon Adamant: point 3
[10:07] Moon Adamant: 3. Colonia Nova City SE Quadrant Re-deployment
[10:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yay
[10:07] Moon Adamant: in the normal process of Guild work
[10:07] Moon Adamant: we have approved a plan for this re-deployment
[10:08] Moon Adamant: which is up the wall behind Timo
[10:08] Timo Gufler:
[10:08] Moon Adamant: this plan is the result of an iterative process, that joined two proposals, Solomon's and mine
[10:09] Moon Adamant: we now have prepared a budget to propose to the Executive for the building of parcels C12, C13 and garden/alley, as also a tiny bit of terraforming
[10:09] Moon Adamant: Sudane, would you care to comment?
[10:10] Moon Adamant: while i publish the spreadsheet
[10:10] Sudane Erato: i've looked at the budget... and it seems very reasonable to me
[10:10] Pip Torok: "on the wall behind Timo" ?
[10:10] Sudane Erato: its really a very small project
[10:10] Moon Adamant: between timo and Sudane, Pip
[10:10] Pip Torok: ah
[10:11] Timo Gufler: yes, Pip,I am so small
[10:11] Moon Adamant: the budget previews
[10:11] Moon Adamant: just a sec
[10:11] Moon Adamant: 1 hour of terraforming
[10:12] Moon Adamant: 4 hours for the garden
[10:12] Cindy Ecksol: this looks nice!
[10:12] Moon Adamant: and 6 hours for each of the two parcels
[10:12] Cindy Ecksol: love the idea of the garden in the alley there....
[10:12] Moon Adamant: that was Solomon's idea )
[10:12] Moon Adamant: i love it too
[10:12] Lilith Ivory: I like it also
[10:12] Moon Adamant: that quarter was a bit cramped and this will create a very nice urban space
[10:13] Moon Adamant: but still about the budget
[10:13] Moon Adamant: the garden will become public land
[10:13] Moon Adamant: but the two parcels are private land
[10:13] Timo Gufler: may I ask who are we paying to?
[10:13] Moon Adamant: we propose that they're built no mod/ no copy, transfer
[10:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn seconds Timo's question
[10:13] Rose Springvale: why?
[10:13] Moon Adamant: ah, that's the next point
[10:14] Timo Gufler: I have heard about volunteers by this far...
[10:14] Moon Adamant: Rose, so that the parcels can be transferred while keeping the urban facades
[10:14] Rose Springvale: i oppose that
[10:14] Moon Adamant: also, by our general CDS legislation, a full perm copy must be handed down to our Content Archivist
[10:14] Rose Springvale: for so many reasons
[10:15] Moon Adamant: Rose, the owner can trash it
[10:15] Rose Springvale: but one is that one of the reasons i supported this plan was tat it leaves the option to join those two parcels
[10:15] Moon Adamant: and build a new one
[10:15] Rose Springvale: why not make it like the cardo lots?
[10:15] Moon Adamant: we just keep the backup
[10:16] Rose Springvale: oh
[10:16] Rose Springvale: i see
[10:16] Rose Springvale: though .. hmm
[10:16] Rose Springvale: its an all or nothing choice
[10:16] Symo Kurka raises hand
[10:16] Moon Adamant: well, mind you that this will be exteriors and interior paint only
[10:16] Moon Adamant: yes, Symo?
[10:16] Rose Springvale: and walls in the center
[10:17] Symo Kurka: I would add one point
[10:17] Symo Kurka: As i said many times before I think we also need fresh ideas for a texture renewal of CN centre. So I suggest we call for a competition for roman urban textures.
[10:17] Gwyneth Llewelyn: interesting proposal!....
[10:17] Symo Kurka: Creators and builders should compete with:
[10:17] Symo Kurka: - at least three textures for external walls/facades
- at least one texture for roofs
- one for ceilings
- two for internal walls
- two for pavements
- one for external pavements
[10:17] Symo Kurka: Guild could select the best ones and there could be six LD prizes (tbd the amount in exec budget).
[10:17] Moon Adamant: hmmm interesting
[10:18] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:18] Moon Adamant: here's what i propose
[10:18] Moon Adamant: the immediate creation of the CN Redeployment group
[10:18] Moon Adamant: Workgroup
[10:18] Rose Springvale: Moon?
[10:19] Moon Adamant: that will include the people willing to build these things
[10:19] Moon Adamant: yes?
[10:19] Rose Springvale: we need a prim budget too
[10:19] Moon Adamant: single-prim
[10:19] Rose Springvale: and i'd like to ask that we give solomon the (i mean for the builds)
[10:19] Rose Springvale: option on the garden
[10:20] Rose Springvale: he's been wanting to add green stuff
[10:20] Moon Adamant: ok, we can do that
[10:20] Rose Springvale: since he joined. if he doesn't want it, np
[10:20] Moon Adamant: but i propose that we deal with all that inside the Workgroup
[10:20] Rose Springvale: oh sorry. kay
[10:20] Moon Adamant: all that being:
[10:20] Moon Adamant: Symo's competition
[10:21] Moon Adamant: Option on the garden to Solomon
[10:21] Moon Adamant: actual building
[10:21] Moon Adamant: so i am calling that WG right away
[10:22] Moon Adamant: and will do that in the forums as well, after i publish the budget
[10:22] Moon Adamant: all interested to join in, please do
[10:22] Moon Adamant: we will pick a WG chair next week
[10:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: so the WG will manage Symo's competition ?
[10:23] Rose Springvale: we need a meeting time next week
[10:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: or just the CN SE redeployment?
[10:23] Cindy Ecksol lost the thread on what competition we're talking about
[10:23] Rose Springvale: getting to be a long meeting
[10:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[10:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn *giggles*
[10:23] Moon Adamant: the WG will manage the two things
[10:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ok, Moon
[10:23] Moon Adamant: integrate one inside the other
[10:23] Symo Kurka: Ye sboth could be coherent
[10:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: just to be clear, if we vote on its creation, to have an idea on what role it will have.
[10:24] Gwyneth Llewelyn: wait, WGs can be called without a vote lol
[10:24] Gwyneth Llewelyn *slaps her forehead*
[10:24] Moon Adamant: yes, dear
[10:24] Gwyneth Llewelyn: sorry Moon
[10:24] Moon Adamant: ok.... lots of posting to be done....
[10:25] Moon Adamant: now i will ask for any other businees?
[10:25] Rose Springvale: we do need to discuss times for meeting
[10:25] Moon Adamant: business*
[10:25] Moon Adamant: ah, sorry Rose
[10:25] Rose Springvale: next week RA is scheduled for this time
[10:25] Symo Kurka: Just have in mind ..
[10:25] Lilith Ivory: hi Sol
[10:25] Rose Springvale: and i'm waiting to schedule the ball time
[10:25] Pip Torok: hi Sol
[10:25] Moon Adamant: oh
[10:25] Solomon Mosely: hey all
[10:25] Timo Gufler: hi Solomon
[10:25] Rose Springvale: though have announced 2 pm
[10:25] Moon Adamant: hi Solomon
[10:25] Moon Adamant: so let me think
[10:25] Moon Adamant: RA is scheduled for what hour?
[10:25] Moon Adamant: 10 AM?
[10:25] Rose Springvale: 9 atm
[10:26] Moon Adamant: then we will meet at 11 am
[10:26] Symo Kurka: Yes 9:00 Am
[10:26] Moon Adamant: all agree?
[10:26] Rose Springvale: fine with me
[10:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[10:26] Pip Torok: aye
[10:26] Timo Gufler: aye
[10:26] Lilith Ivory: aye
[10:27] Moon Adamant: i am taking silence as assent on this one
[10:27] Rose Springvale: Inaugural ball will be at 2 then
[10:27] Rose Springvale: so everyon has time tochange
[10:28] Moon Adamant: i agree with 11 myself
[10:28] Timo Gufler: is 11 the time always or only when there are RA meetings?
[10:28] Rose Springvale: symo, will RA meet weekly?
[10:28] Cindy Ecksol: ah, good....I can make the ball, butu sadly not the RA meeting and probably not the guild mtg
[10:28] Moon Adamant: i don't know yet Timo
[10:29] Timo Gufler: np
[10:29] Rose Springvale: oh dear
[10:29] Symo Kurka: In my intentions yes, at least at he beginning, but I have to verify with other RA members
[10:29] Moon Adamant: so let's do this
[10:29] Moon Adamant: officially we meet at 11
[10:30] Symo Kurka: we can deal on time slots
[10:30] Moon Adamant: we will see later on how that goes, if we need to hold meetings a bit sooner when teh RA is not meeting to accomodate people better
[10:30] Symo Kurka: but it's not easy guys
[10:30] Moon Adamant: and of course, sometimes teh Guild may have to not meet to give space to important events
[10:31] Moon Adamant: i think that's teh best plan for the moment
[10:31] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:31] Moon Adamant: well, if no other business, motion to adjourn?
[10:31] Pip Torok: seconded
[10:32] Symo Kurka: NOW MEMBERS OF NEXT RA DO NOT RUN AWAY lol
[10:32] Moon Adamant: lol
[10:32] Rose Springvale: smile
[10:32] Timo Gufler:
[10:32] Symo Kurka: WE MEET RIGHT NOW AT PRAETORIUM, CN
[10:32] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[10:32] Rose Springvale: will you post the transcript and i post the summary moon?
[10:32] Pip Torok: (as if we would
[10:32] Moon Adamant: yes Rose
[10:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[10:32] Symo Kurka: and open to public, no secrets
[10:32] Moon Adamant: and Symo, are you serious? i was going to have a nap
[10:32] Rose Springvale: smile
[10:32] Symo Kurka: Moon you can go have a nap
[10:33] Rose Springvale: i have to go make breakfast. they are just going to talk about times
[10:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: pfft
[10:33] Moon Adamant: ah ok
[10:33] Moon Adamant: thank you all then
[10:33] Moon Adamant: we are adjourned
