Transcript SC meeting April 25 2020

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Transcript SC meeting April 25 2020

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[08:14] Lilith Ivory: I call this meeting to order
[08:14] Lilith Ivory: Calli and Soro, did you see the agenda and do you approve?
[08:15] Callipygian Christensen: yes
[08:15] Soro Dagostino: Move approval.
[08:15] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:15] Lilith Ivory: first item : new Business
[08:16] Lilith Ivory: Removal of RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone) from the Scientific Council
[08:16] Lilith Ivory: Coop has not been a CDS citizen since last fall now so I think it is overdue to remove him from the SC
[08:17] Lilith Ivory: can I get a motion please?
[08:17] Soro Dagostino: Raises Hand.
[08:17] Lilith Ivory: yes Soro?
[08:17] Callipygian Christensen: I move to remove Roguegeek cooperstone from the SC
[08:18] Lilith Ivory: Soro? didn you want to say something?
[08:18] Soro Dagostino: I second.
[08:19] Lilith Ivory: thank you Soro :)
[08:19] Lilith Ivory: all in favour to remove Roguegeek Cooperstone from the SC say aye please
[08:19] Callipygian Christensen: aye
[08:19] Lilith Ivory: aye
[08:20] Soro Dagostino: Aye.
[08:20] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:20] Lilith Ivory: motion carries

[08:20] Soro Dagostino: Raises hand.
[08:20] Lilith Ivory: yes Soro?
[08:21] Soro Dagostino: I move that the Scientific Council nominate and seat Delia to the SC.
[08:22] Lilith Ivory: patience Soro , patience lol
[08:22] Lilith Ivory: I was just about to say how glad I am Delia Lake agreed to join us again
[08:22] Callipygian Christensen: well I second that for when you are ready lol
[08:22] Lilith Ivory giggles
[08:22] Lilith Ivory: I am more than ready to welcome Delia back
[08:22] Lilith Ivory: all in favour say aye please
[08:22] Soro Dagostino: aye
[08:22] Lilith Ivory: aye
[08:24] Callipygian Christensen: aye
[08:24] Lilith Ivory: motion carries
[08:24] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:24] Delia Lake: Thank you. I'm pleased to return to the SC :)
[08:24] Lilith Ivory: and welcome back Delia
[08:24] Guillaume Mistwalker: clap clap clap
[08:24] Soro Dagostino: WOOOOOT!!!!
[08:24] Guillaume Mistwalker: clap clap clap
[08:25] Callipygian Christensen: welcome back Delia :)
[08:25] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): applause :)
[08:25] Brooke (brooke.brandenburg): :)
[08:25] Lilith Ivory smiles

[08:25] Lilith Ivory: next agenda item are our elections
[08:26] Lilith Ivory: so far we have only one candidate for chancellor and 5 candidates for five seats in the RA
[08:26] Lilith Ivory: but as I want to send out another reminder to declare this weekend we never know what we will get
[08:26] Lilith Ivory: that´s why I would like to ask for volunteers in case we have to run real elections
[08:27] Soro Dagostino: Raises hand.
[08:27] Delia Lake: I'll help, Lil
[08:27] Lilith Ivory: Thank you Delia :)
[08:27] Soro Dagostino: As will I.
[08:27] Lilith Ivory: thank you Soro
[08:27] Lilith Ivory: I will come back to you in case we need someone to collect the emails
[08:28] Lilith Ivory: oh, and btw.... did you all notice ?
[08:28] Lilith Ivory: our own Jon Seattle is back as a CDS citizen!
[08:28] Tanoujin Milestone: wow
[08:28] Guillaume Mistwalker: ㋡
[08:28] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): more applause :)
[08:28] Callipygian Christensen: oh, that's excellent
[08:28] Lilith Ivory: if we want it might be worth a try to ask him if he is willing to run the election software again
[08:29] Lilith Ivory: yes! he bought two big parcels this week
[08:29] Soro Dagostino: Super!
[08:29] Lilith Ivory: I didn´t have a chance to talk with im yet
[08:29] Soro Dagostino: Raises hand.
[08:29] Delia Lake: I chatted with Jon a few days ago
[08:29] Lilith Ivory: nice :)
[08:30] Lilith Ivory: brb for one moment to get more coffee
[08:30] Delia Lake whispers: I'm very glad to have so many good folks returning to the CDS
[08:30] Guillaume Mistwalker: ㋡
[08:31] Soro Dagostino: I nominate Jon to be the CDS Dogcatcher!!
[08:31] Tanoujin Milestone: hehe
[08:32] Brooke (brooke.brandenburg): Is there a story there?
[08:32] Soro Dagostino: And Sheriff..

[08:32] Lilith Ivory: back :)
[08:32] Lilith Ivory: sorry to have you wait
[08:33] Lilith Ivory: next item is the Contingency Plan Sudane has presented to the Dean, the LRA and a few other trusted citizens
[08:34] Lilith Ivory: she came up with it due to the corona pandemia and wants to make sure CDS can survive in case something unexpected happens to her
[08:35] Lilith Ivory: the plan itself contains some sensitive info and I think it should not be discussed in a transcripted meeting
[08:35] Lilith Ivory: but of course I am willing to share Sudanes plan with my fellow members of the SC via emial if desired
[08:35] Callipygian Christensen frowns
[08:35] Callipygian Christensen: May I?
[08:35] Lilith Ivory: yes sure
[08:36] Callipygian Christensen: A contingency plan is a set of steps that occur in the event of something. It should be possible to make those steps public, so 'the plan' public, without providing any personal or sensitve details shouldnt it?
[08:37] Callipygian Christensen: We actually *had* such a plan in the past but I don't think the parts were fully put into place, and that plan was public.
[08:37] Lilith Ivory nods
[08:37] Callipygian Christensen: So, I think having the citizens of CDS know what the plan is matters. Done for now.
[08:37] Delia Lake raises her hand
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: we have a new and working plan now and I can work with Sudane so there is no info that can not be shared with the public (and potential hackers)
[08:39] Lilith Ivory: what I can say is that Sudane has taken care the tier for our regions gets paid for several month without our doing in case something happens to her
[08:40] Lilith Ivory: she also has given two trusted citizens (Moon and Gwyn) all info we need to transfer the ownership of our estate to a new EO
[08:40] Lilith Ivory: any more questions?
[08:41] Delia Lake raises her hand
[08:41] Callipygian Christensen raises hers for after Delia
[08:41] Lilith Ivory: if you want I can give you the Contingency Plan Calli and Delia so we can wok with Sudane to present it in a way no sensitive info gets out
[08:41] Lilith Ivory: Delia?
[08:42] Delia Lake: Yes, please
[08:42] Delia Lake: This though raises a larger issue I think
[08:43] Delia Lake: so I suggest that now is a good time to petition LL to change the options for ownership of regions. We the CDS are not the only groups that could be affected
[08:43] Lilith Ivory nods
[08:43] Delia Lake: while some SL groups are backed by rl nonprofits, they still have a designated "owner" and the transfer options the last time I looked were not easy or smooth
[08:44] Lilith Ivory: + extremely expensive
[08:44] Delia Lake: this I think would be the perfect time for LL to revise their policies. other rl groups are giving sl a serious relook right now
[08:45] Delia Lake: so I suggest that we draft a petition that we present to LL and probably circulate to other sl groups to sign on as well
[08:45] Callipygian Christensen: On a broader scale and a simple solution, having them allow you to designate someone to 'inherit' your account would solve a multitude of issues like that
[08:46] Delia Lake: yes that is one of the options that should be in place
[08:46] Callipygian Christensen: Currently the only way to access an acount in the effect of a death is if inheritance is specified in a will
[08:46] Lilith Ivory: I think they might have this option already but you need to out this into your will
[08:46] Lilith Ivory nods
[08:46] Delia Lake: that's much too complex a solution for what is needed imo
[08:47] Callipygian Christensen: I actually read the 'what we need' information related to that yesterday and it is not simple, but all revolves around the will.
[08:47] Lilith Ivory: Calli, Delia, I will send Sudanes plan to you asap as email so you can have a look at it and we can decide if it is ok to be published
[08:48] Callipygian Christensen: The problem of course is that they dont want to be changing the designted person every time an SL relationship or partnership breaks up
[08:48] Lilith Ivory: it´s mainly me who is concerned to give this info to people outside SL and our community
[08:48] Callipygian Christensen: thanks Lilith
[08:48] Lilith Ivory: my pleasure
[08:49] Callipygian Christensen: well ultimately any contingency plan like this should be voted on by the RA, so having it in a format to do that might as well be done now.
[08:49] Lilith Ivory nods
[08:49] Delia Lake: this is an issue for the CDS for sure, but LL should also recognize that this is a business issue for them
[08:49] Callipygian Christensen: Totally Delia - hopefully they are getting better at realizing that
[08:50] Lilith Ivory: can I move we table this item till next meeting when you all had a change to read the plan?
[08:50] Delia Lake: I think we need to help LL realize this
[08:50] Soro Dagostino: Raises hand.
[08:51] Lilith Ivory: Soro?
[08:51] Soro Dagostino: Second the motion to table.
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: all in favour?
[08:52] Delia Lake: aye
[08:52] Soro Dagostino: Until the plan language has been circulated.
[08:52] Callipygian Christensen: aye
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: yes exactly
[08:52] Soro Dagostino: Aye
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: aye
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: thank you

[08:52] Lilith Ivory: is there anything more we need to discuss?
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: or can we move to set up the time for our next meeting?
[08:56] Callipygian Christensen: It should be set for prior to polls opening, in case there is an actual polling required
[08:57] Callipygian Christensen: not sure if I am losing packets here - there was a long silence lol
[08:57] Lilith Ivory: I was thinking we are fine with Delia and Soro volunteering to help in case we need a real election
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: I´d just contact one of them if we need to start collecting emails
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: why do we need to meet again?
[08:58] Soro Dagostino: To approve the plan.
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: haven´t we approved the plan at the begining of this meeting?
[08:59] Callipygian Christensen: Well, while we have not been good about doing so, we actually are supposed to meet regularily :)
[08:59] Lilith Ivory: I know lol
[08:59] Soro Dagostino: This is a big, intense topic.
[08:59] Callipygian Christensen: SO not a bad idea to either start doing so, or give a reason why we shouldn't and seek to change that.
[09:00] Soro Dagostino: We haven't been provided a copy.
[09:00] Lilith Ivory: I do my best to schedule meetings but I have a hard time to plan my weekends beforehand
[09:00] Lilith Ivory: when do you suggest we meet?
[09:00] Lilith Ivory: Aliasi told me she works on saturdays so a sunday might be best
[09:01] Tanoujin Milestone imagines Aliasi in the barlight
[09:01] Tanoujin Milestone: ;)
[09:01] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[09:01] Delia Lake: in the past Aliasi worked nights and got home at about this time. don't know if that's still so
[09:02] Lilith Ivory: she still does that and said today at 8am is in the middle of her sleep time
[09:02] Delia Lake: ok
[09:02] Soro Dagostino: I suggest Sunday, June 7 -- a meeting devoted to the "Plan."
[09:03] Soro Dagostino: 0800
[09:03] Lilith Ivory: well we just said we want to meet before the polls close ...
[09:03] Lilith Ivory: *goes and checks the schedule
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: that would have to be before may 15
[09:04] Callipygian Christensen: computer keeps freezing so am having a hard time pulling up the calendar
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: what about sunday may 10?
[09:05] Callipygian Christensen: what time IS plannable for you Lilith?
[09:05] Soro Dagostino: I suggest the "Plan" isn't related to the Polls.
[09:06] Lilith Ivory: it´s really difficult as I work full time on weekends and I don´t know on friday morning how much work I will have on sat and sunday
[09:06] Lilith Ivory: but I will try :)
[09:06] Callipygian Christensen: I actually wasnt saying before the polls close..I meant before they open..but with the timeline yes, its a matter of just activating if you need to Lilith
[09:06] Callipygian Christensen: so anytime before the end of May is fine if we want to meet a 'once a month' target
[09:07] Lilith Ivory: we can aim for may 3
[09:07] Lilith Ivory: another sunday
[09:07] Callipygian Christensen: No no..we dont have to meet in a week from now..I was out on my dates in my head..
[09:07] Lilith Ivory: polls open on the 9th
[09:08] Lilith Ivory smiles
[09:08] Callipygian Christensen: if weekends are bad for you, why not a that doable for others?
[09:08] Lilith Ivory: that´s why I was a bit shocked
[09:08] Callipygian Christensen: well, since I was thinking it's March, yeah LOL
[09:08] Soro Dagostino: BRB -- nature calls.
[09:08] Lilith Ivory smiles and nods
[09:09] Lilith Ivory: weekdays might be better as my dear clients give me work before they leave into weekend and expect it back on monday morning
[09:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: How kind...
[09:10] Lilith Ivory: indeed , but they feed me more or less well ;-)
[09:10] Lilith Ivory: suggestions?
[09:12] Tanoujin Milestone: off I am, see you all soon
[09:12] Lilith Ivory: bye Tan
[09:12] Delia Lake: I can meet during the week
[09:13] Lilith Ivory: so, do we need to meet before the polls open or not?
[09:13] Callipygian Christensen: Lilith, no
[09:13] Lilith Ivory: ok :)
[09:13] Callipygian Christensen: as I said, I was mistaken
[09:14] Lilith Ivory: ok , just anted to be sure - I am a bit confused now
[09:14] Soro Dagostino: But -- we need time to read the "plan."
[09:14] Lilith Ivory: yes of course
[09:14] Lilith Ivory: I am in favour for end of may
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: sunday the 24 th would work for me and also the week before
[09:15] Soro Dagostino: Avoid Memorial Day.
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: I have NO clue when memorial day is :)
[09:15] Guillaume Mistwalker chuckles
[09:16] Callipygian Christensen: Lilith..Delia and I both have said we can meet during the week
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: ok :)
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: which day?
[09:16] Callipygian Christensen: if Sundays are difficult for you, why not a weekday?
[09:16] Soro Dagostino: 5/25/2020
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: any weekday between the 18 and the 24 works same good for me
[09:17] Delia Lake: May 23, 24, 25 is US Memorial Day weekend. we may still be under stay at home restrictions but just in case that lifts, probably not a good time to plan a meeting
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: Aliasis said she works thursday till saturday
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: 18th , 19th or 20th work for me
[09:17] Callipygian Christensen: Tuesday the 19th then, is that is the week that works for you Lilith
[09:17] Delia Lake: Tuesday May 19 at 8 am?
[09:18] Callipygian Christensen: the 18th is a Canadian holiday so I might not be around
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: yes that works I hope :)
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: let´s go for tuesday the 19th may
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: 8am?
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: or later?
[09:18] Callipygian Christensen: that might be too early for Soro
[09:19] Callipygian Christensen: 8 on a weekday like that ok?
[09:19] Lilith Ivory: I can between midnight and 6pm slt
[09:19] Lilith Ivory: <= sleepless atm
[09:19] Soro Dagostino: Yeah . . . with stay at home controlling it makes no difference.
[09:20] Delia Lake: not midnight slt please. that's 3 am for me and I'd really prefer to be sleeping at that time
[09:20] Lilith Ivory giggles
[09:20] Lilith Ivory: just showing some flexibility
[09:21] Lilith Ivory: I´d prefer sometimes between 9am and 3pm
[09:21] Callipygian Christensen: ok..then tues the 19th seems to work for everyone and hopefully aliasi since its not a work day
[09:21] Lilith Ivory: yes
[09:21] Lilith Ivory: now we only need the time :)
[09:22] Soro Dagostino: 0900
[09:23] Lilith Ivory: 9 am ok for the rest too
[09:23] Callipygian Christensen: I am ok with that, yes
[09:23] Delia Lake: ok
[09:23] Lilith Ivory: I move we meet next on tuesday mai 19 at 9am slt
[09:24] Soro Dagostino: Second.
[09:25] Soro Dagostino: Aye.
[09:25] Callipygian Christensen: aye
[09:25] Lilith Ivory: aye
[09:25] Delia Lake: aye
[09:26] Lilith Ivory: motion carries
[09:26] Lilith Ivory: thank you :)
[09:26] Lilith Ivory: anything more or can we adjourn?
[09:26] Lilith Ivory: SL starts eating my text
[09:26] Callipygian Christensen: move to adjourn
[09:27] Soro Dagostino: Second.
[09:27] Lilith Ivory: all in favour say aye please
[09:27] Soro Dagostino: aye
[09:27] Lilith Ivory: aye
[09:27] Soro Dagostino: B4N
[09:28] Soro Dagostino is offline.
[09:28] Delia Lake: aye
[09:29] Lilith Ivory: as I think Calli has no objections I call this meeting adjourned
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