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Transcript of Scientific Council meeting Sunday 7 October 2018

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Transcript of Scientific Council meeting Sunday 7 October 2018
Meeting called to order at 1043 SLT
Members present: Dean Lilith Ivory, Soro Dagostino, RG Cooperstone
Agenda was approved
Dean Ivory brought up CDSL 21-03 Government Official Citizenship Act which states government officials must keep their tier current. One member of the SC (Cooperstone) had a tier arrears and this was corrected prior to the start of the meeting.

Because of this the election of the new Dean was tabled until next meeting.

The estate ban of SaveMe Oh was reviewed and was upheld without objection.

Old business : Last meeting Perreault volunteered to project dates for upcoming elections. As she was not present this was tabled for action at a later time.
Discussion continued about replacement of the domain admin for the forum under CDSL 23-04, and change in where the forum is hosted.
Dagostino moved to adjourn at 1206 SLT, with second from Cooperstone. Voted aye unanimously.

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1043
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Got it
Lilith Ivory: Soro?
Soro Dagostino: ok, got the agenda.
Lilith Ivory: good
Lilith Ivory: did you all read the agenda and can we aprove it as it is?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: so moved
Soro Dagostino: Second
Lilith Ivory: all in favor say aye please
Soro Dagostino: Aye
RogueGeek Cooperstone: aye
Lilith Ivory: aye
Lilith Ivory: thank you :)
Lilith Ivory: next item, aproval of the minutes
Lilith Ivory: did you all read them and can we aprove them?
Lilith Ivory: trying to get a link to it
Soro Dagostino: No connection.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8623
Lilith Ivory: thanks Coop
Lilith Ivory: I am fine with the mnutes as they are
Lilith Ivory: Soro? Coop?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Fine with me
Soro Dagostino: Not read them, but will concede
Lilith Ivory: ok :)
Lilith Ivory: I consider the minutes as aproved
Lilith Ivory: next agenda item , new business
Soro Dagostino: Agreed.
Lilith Ivory: CDSL 21-03 Government Official Citizenship Act
Lilith Ivory: sadly when I went through the latest census list that was taken on monday I noticed that one of our SC members was not on the citizen list as he was not in good standing
Lilith Ivory: this law says:
Lilith Ivory: Enacted 26 October 2014
All elected members of gov't, and members of the SC, and appointed members of the Executive and Civil Service shall maintain their citizenship by owning a parcel of land and keeping tier on that parcel current. In extenuating circumstances, a provisional citizenship of less than seven days is permissible. Provisional citizenship of more than seven days will result in removal from office.
Soro Dagostino: Is that me?
Lilith Ivory: No Soro :)
Lilith Ivory: fortunately this problem got solved as Coop paid by now
Soro Dagostino: I forgot one parcel.
Soro Dagostino: But thought I paid up.
Lilith Ivory: and I do think it has been done within 7 days
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Mea culpa. Wrote the wrong day down in the calendar
Lilith Ivory: Soro, you only need to be in good standing at one prcel
Lilith Ivory: no matter how many parcels you own
Lilith Ivory: I am glad this problem is solved Coop :)
Soro Dagostino: Heheheh I'ma overpaid 7 months on one of them!
Lilith Ivory: but I think this is a good chance to remind ALL government members how important it is to stay in good standing
Soro Dagostino: Cause I lost track.
Lilith Ivory: and to be honest I am not sure if it is legal/good taste to elect someone dean who does not show on the census list that qualifies to run for an office
Lilith Ivory: thoughts about that?
Soro Dagostino: It should be waived given his mistake.
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
RogueGeek Cooperstone: If that is the case, then you can stay Dean another month.
Lilith Ivory: I have to say I am not comfortable to have the dean election this meeting as transcripts and forum can be seen outside CDS too and I don?t want us to become a laugh number
Lilith Ivory: /me smiles at Coop , thank you
Soro Dagostino: I agree with Coop, glad that Lil will stay as Dean for the time required.
Tanoujin Milestone: /me raises hand
Lilith Ivory: I had suggessted Coop goes on sabbatical till he is in good standing for 28 days again, but that?s only my five cent
Lilith Ivory: I don?t mind being if you vote differently
Lilith Ivory: Tan?
Tanoujin Milestone: thanks - when will the next census be taken?
Lilith Ivory: at the 11th
Tanoujin Milestone: thank you
RogueGeek Cooperstone: that's the voting census
Lilith Ivory: yes exactly
RogueGeek Cooperstone: the census on the first was the candidate census
Lilith Ivory: for the record I would be more than glad to pass the office as dean over to Coopp as soon as possible
Lilith Ivory: I think if we table the dean election till next meeting all will be ok
Lilith Ivory: but again that?s only my 5 cent
Soro Dagostino: So move.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: second
Lilith Ivory: all in favor say aye please
Lilith Ivory: aye
Soro Dagostino: Aye.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: aye
Lilith Ivory: thank you :)
Lilith Ivory: next agenda Item
Lilith Ivory: Reviewing of Estate ban : SaveMe Oh
Lilith Ivory: did you all read Rosies Note on that?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I just have one question, out of curiosity. What were the attachments in question?
Lilith Ivory: Rosie can you answer
Rosie Gray: yes
Lilith Ivory: and I can talk about the other grievance and a third one that has happend before while I was around
Rosie Gray: the attachments were massive prims with rotating textures, in a kind of 'show'
RogueGeek Cooperstone: ok
Rosie Gray: similar in a way to what the event was presenting... except not as good, and she wasn't invited to do it
Lilith Ivory: and I can imagine she didn?t stop when getting asked?
Lilith Ivory: this really has been the third time SaveMe Oh grieved a CDSevent like this and I think it was about time to get her banned finally
Rosie Gray: she most certainly didn't stop when asked
Soro Dagostino: Does anyone know why she did that?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: That is her 'thing' if you look at her blog.
Soro Dagostino: Don't have that?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: https://savemeoh.wordpress.com/
Lilith Ivory: Coop, Soro, are there any objections about this ban staying in place till hell freezes - or she files a ticket to us for review?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: No objections from me
Lilith Ivory: None from me either
Soro Dagostino: Nor from me.
Lilith Ivory: good :)
Lilith Ivory: the next agenda item: old business - election of dean and SC archivist has been tabled already
Lilith Ivory: right?
Lilith Ivory: and I guess as Aria is not here to speak about timeline for future elections we can table that too
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Looks like, depending on who is going to be archivist
Lilith Ivory: I thnk it will be the first task of the new dean to find a volunteer
Soro Dagostino: Someone who likes to talk a lot.  Smile, hehehe.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Someone who comes to meetings.
Lilith Ivory: someone who has not been dean right before and has not been Callis archivist for ages
RogueGeek Cooperstone: The pool gets ever shallower it seems
Lilith Ivory: sadly yes
Lilith Ivory: when I became dean I had to be my own archivist before you joined us
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I'll do what I must then
Lilith Ivory: /me whispers: perhaps Calli would be so kind
Soro Dagostino: Is it possible to use one not an SC member.
Lilith Ivory: not really I think
RogueGeek Cooperstone: It should be a member, Soro
Soro Dagostino: Ok, just don't know.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: We may have to do a closed session, perhaps...
RogueGeek Cooperstone: it's always possible
Lilith Ivory: to find am archivist?
Lilith Ivory: *an
RogueGeek Cooperstone: To need one
Lilith Ivory: we will see I guess
Lilith Ivory: let?s just table this till more of our members are around
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Just thinking that is why it has to be a member, in case there is a need for it
Soro Dagostino: Agreed.
Lilith Ivory: all that is needed is that our transcripts are posted in a timely manner and that a few other things get posted
Lilith Ivory: I don?t think the law says it has to be a special person who does it
Lilith Ivory: I didn?t hear any objections when I did it myself
Lilith Ivory: as dean
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I can keep doing it, if that is the case, until someone steps up
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
Lilith Ivory: to be honest I have a very tight RL schedule at the moment and I can not promise to come to any meeting that is scheduled
Lilith Ivory: in fact I would not be here today if I hadn?t to chair
Lilith Ivory: shall we table the election of an archivist too till the next meeting?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: so mved
Soro Dagostino: Hopefully you will make the next meeting.
Soro Dagostino: Second.
Lilith Ivory: all in favor say aye please
RogueGeek Cooperstone: aye
Soro Dagostino: Aye.
Lilith Ivory: aye
Lilith Ivory: motion carries :)
Lilith Ivory: next agenda item
Lilith Ivory: Replacement of the forum admin
Lilith Ivory: Coop, have you been able to do some research already?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I poked around a bit for a hosting solution
RogueGeek Cooperstone: the question I had is how much are we paying now?
Lilith Ivory: I think it?s best to ask our treasurer about that
Rosie Gray: /me raises a hand
Lilith Ivory: yes Rosie?
Rosie Gray: it's my understanding that we pay nothing for the hosting, and only pay for the URL when it comes up
Rosie Gray: done
Lilith Ivory: excust my silly question Rosie: what is URL?
Rosie Gray: URL is the web address
RogueGeek Cooperstone: the name of the website
Lilith Ivory: /me nods ah I see
Lilith Ivory: so Gwyn pays the company herself for the server space she uses?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: and she piggybacks the forum on space she rents
Rosie Gray: that's my understanding, yes
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
Lilith Ivory: Rosie, didn?t you say it?s possible to put the forum on the same server(thingy) where Mizou has the portal?
Lilith Ivory: just with a differnt admit to follow our laws?
Rosie Gray: well yes, as long as she has an account that allows at least 2 sites
Rosie Gray: I can check that, if you want
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
Lilith Ivory: Coop, you are the expert here, do you think it?s worth a try to keep that in mind too?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: we could as long as she has the space, since we're paying for that already. My only concern is if we use the same hosting company it will present a situation where if they have an outage both sites will be down
Rosie Gray: that is highly unlikely, since it is a huge host
Rosie Gray: Bluehost, fyi
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Maybe so, I'm just thinking worst case scenario.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: the same reason we have by law two different admins
Lilith Ivory: well, I think it is more likely something happens to human than something serious hppens to a huge company
Lilith Ivory: didn?t happen often that whole SL went down as LL had server issues
RogueGeek Cooperstone: SL uses a distributed server system with multiple non-colocated servers
Lilith Ivory: isn?t that the case with companies like bluehost too?
Lilith Ivory: but as I said before, I am clueless when it comes to this topic
RogueGeek Cooperstone: They may or may not have the small hosted sites replicated to the extend LL would, but I'm just thinking worst case, as I said
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
RogueGeek Cooperstone: It is worth asking if she has the space, as long as we can have the second set of admins
Lilith Ivory: yes I agree
Soro Dagostino: AS I do.
Lilith Ivory: and I absolutely agree it is important to have a second (set) of admins
Lilith Ivory: while in the past we always had only one
RogueGeek Cooperstone: for both the website and the forum?
Soro Dagostino: And they do not need to be members of SC?
Lilith Ivory: one for the website and one for the forum
Lilith Ivory: Mizou for the portal and Gwyn was website admin
Lilith Ivory: Soro, sadly the SC has the duty to decide who is the admin
RogueGeek Cooperstone: right. That is what I meant by second set, if the forum goes onto the website's server space
Lilith Ivory: and to run behind the admins if something does not work as it should
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
Soro Dagostino: I'll brb -- bio.
Lilith Ivory: how do you think we should proceed on that issue`
Lilith Ivory: ?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: We're in the same place we were before, trying to find someone to do it.
Lilith Ivory: I agree
Soro Dagostino: Back.
Lilith Ivory: wb Soro
Lilith Ivory: Looking at the time I would like to move we table this topic too and keep talking about it next time
Lilith Ivory: perhaps with new insight
RogueGeek Cooperstone: So moved
Rosie Gray: /me raises a hand
Lilith Ivory: Rosie
Lilith Ivory: ?
Rosie Gray: I've just checked the account we have on bluehost, and it only allows for 1 website.  It's a basic account.  It would still be possible to add a forum, as a part of the website, but not as a stand-alone
Rosie Gray: done
Lilith Ivory: thank you Rosie
RogueGeek Cooperstone: How much is it a month Rosie?
Rosie Gray: it's $8.99 I think
Rosie Gray: sorry just closed it again
RogueGeek Cooperstone: it's ok, that's close enough to ball park
Rosie Gray: sorry, must go
Rosie Gray: bye for now
Tanoujin Milestone: bye Rosie
Lilith Ivory: bye Rosie and thanks for your input
Soro Dagostino: Good info.
Lilith Ivory: we have a motion to table that topic till next meeting
Lilith Ivory: do I get a second from you Soro?
Soro Dagostino: Second.
Lilith Ivory: all in favor say aye please
RogueGeek Cooperstone: aye
Soro Dagostino: Aye.
Lilith Ivory: aye
Lilith Ivory: motion carried
Lilith Ivory: I would like to hold the next meeting at the first weekend of november
Lilith Ivory: but as we are only three at the moment I think it will be wise to send out an email asking for prefered times to meet again
Lilith Ivory: what do you think?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Yes, to make sure if we can get the others here
Lilith Ivory: yes exactly
Lilith Ivory: I think me and Soro are not exactly the right persons to discuss the forum issue
Lilith Ivory: is there anything else or can I move to adjourn?
Soro Dagostino: Move adjournment.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: SEcond
Lilith Ivory: all in favor say aye please :)
Lilith Ivory: aye
Soro Dagostino: aye
RogueGeek Cooperstone: aye
Lilith Ivory: I call this meeting adjourned
Lilith Ivory: thank you all for coming here
RogueGeek Cooperstone: 1206

I now lay down the command of my legions and retire to private life. Marcus Licinius Crassus
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