[9:13] Moon Adamant: everyone, welcome to the NG Board meeting
[9:14] Moon Adamant: please remember that this meeting will be transcripted from this moment on to our forums
[9:14] Moon Adamant: agenda is on the red box, click it to get the link to our forums
[9:14] Moon Adamant: we only have two points today´
[9:14] Moon Adamant: for teh record too
[9:14] Moon Adamant: 1. Secretary of the Board Election
2. Planning for the term
[9:15] Moon Adamant: let's proceed swiftly to the election, so that we'll have time to discuss teh second point
[9:15] Lilith Ivory smiles
[9:15] Moon Adamant: i'll ask if anyone would like to run for the role of Secretary of the Board?
[9:16] Moon Adamant: besides all the masses that have already did? 
[9:16] Rose Springvale: smiles.
[9:16] Moon Adamant: done*
[9:16] Rose Springvale: I'll nominate moon, guiltily
[9:16] Arria Perreault: I second
[9:16] Moon Adamant: sighs
[9:17] Moon Adamant: before you nominate me
[9:17] Moon Adamant: (as usual)
[9:17] Moon Adamant: i must warn you of something
[9:17] Moon Adamant: it is very possible that I go back to study in September
[9:17] Rose Springvale: oh yay!
[9:17] Brian Livingston cheers
[9:17] Moon Adamant: if that happens, i'll have to resign the role
[9:17] Jon Seattle: Indeed 
[9:17] Moon Adamant: i won't have time
[9:18] Jon Seattle: Well, people can deal with that then
[9:18] Arria Perreault: This gives some time to think about ...
[9:18] Jon Seattle: More important that you continue with school
[9:18] Rose Springvale: we talked about finding you an assistant for several terms. we should do that, so if you need to go, they will be ready
[9:18] Arias Ahren: Do you have a co-chair or a vice chancelor who could assume responsibilities in you absence
[9:18] Arria Perreault: I am ready to help, of course
[9:18] Moon Adamant: hmmm Arias, w ehave discussed that already
[9:19] Moon Adamant: i can't quite remember if we did reach any conclusion lol
[9:19] Moon Adamant: in any case, Rose and Sudane do take care of two departments
[9:19] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[9:19] Moon Adamant: Admin and Finance
[9:19] Arias Ahren: I know a couple of people have said in effect that they came to meeting and Moon was not present so the meeting didn't happen
[9:20] Rose Springvale: Jon, how's your schedule?
[9:20] Moon Adamant: Arias, technically the Secetary convenes the meetings and chairs them
[9:20] Jon Seattle: Work is still crazy I am happy to help where I can
[9:20] Rose Springvale: i bet we can deal with it then, if we all pitch in
[9:20] Rose Springvale: Hi solomon
[9:20] Moon Adamant: hi there, Solomon
[9:20] Solomon Mosely: hello
[9:20] Lilith Ivory: Hi Sol
[9:20] Arria Perreault: when I was chair of the Faculty, I think I have chaired some meetings
[9:20] Jon Seattle agrees with Rose on that
[9:21] Arria Perreault: Hi Sol
[9:21] Moon Adamant: Sol, please touch the red box for agenda, and don't forget that this meeting is transcripted
[9:21] Moon Adamant: yes, i think the Chair can do that
[9:21] Rose Springvale: depending on the second item, we may be into building by the time Moon has to matriculate
[9:21] Solomon Mosely: thank you
[9:21] Moon Adamant: Solomon, we are in point 1 of teh agenda
[9:22] Moon Adamant: Secretary election
[9:22] Arria Perreault: How do you know that, Rose?
[9:22] Moon Adamant: and we are just running teh long list of candidates
[9:22] Rose Springvale: i don't know, i just said, depending
[9:22] Solomon Mosely: heh, i bet
[9:22] Arria Perreault: ok
[9:22] Moon Adamant: ok, back to order please
[9:23] Moon Adamant: so... any nominations?
[9:23] Brian Livingston: For the record, I was considering running for this post (and feel remiss not mentioning it) but find myself in the same position as Moon with the uncertainty of the rigorousness of my studies
[9:23] Sudane Erato: you mean besides you?
[9:23] Moon Adamant: well, yes lol
[9:23] Moon Adamant: ok Brian, i fully understannd taht as you know
[9:23] Rose Springvale: i move we close nominations, and keep the rabbit in mind as back up too
[9:23] Jon Seattle: Sounds good
[9:24] Solomon Mosely: jon?
[9:24] Moon Adamant: ehehehe the rabbit has training in project management too 
[9:24] Rose Springvale: yes, and is good
[9:24] Brian Livingston: Hehe, you flatter :p
[9:24] Moon Adamant: ok, anyone seconds Rose?
[9:24] Arria Perreault: I did
[9:24] Sudane Erato: i second
[9:24] Jon Seattle: Third
[9:24] Moon Adamant: ah, sorry Arria - some lag
[9:24] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:24] Arria Perreault: np
[9:25] Moon Adamant: please let me have your attention then
[9:25] Moon Adamant: we only have one nomination: Moon Adamant
[9:25] Moon Adamant: all agreeing to keep Moon in the role of Secretary of the Board of the New Guild, please say Aye
[9:25] Arria Perreault: aye
[9:25] Brian Livingston: Aye
[9:25] Rose Springvale: aye
[9:25] Sudane Erato: aye!!!
[9:25] Jon Seattle: Aye!
[9:25] Arias Ahren: Aye
[9:25] Lilith Ivory: aye
[9:25] Ulysse Alexandre: aye
[9:26] Rose Springvale: want's to amend her vote to add !!!
[9:26] Moon Adamant: abstentions and nays, please
[9:27] Brian Livingston: *crickets*
[9:27] Sudane Erato:
[9:27] Moon Adamant: Solomon, will you cast a vote?
[9:27] Moon Adamant is the last to vote
[9:27] Solomon Mosely: aye
[9:27] Solomon Mosely: sorry
[9:27] Moon Adamant: thanks
[9:27] Moon Adamant: i abstain
[9:28] Moon Adamant: 9 ayes, 1 abstention - motion carries
[9:28] Arria Perreault: claps, claps, claps
[9:28] Moon Adamant: thanks all
[9:28] Sudane Erato: yea!!
[9:28] Rose Springvale: bravo!
[9:28] Lilith Ivory: congrats moon
[9:28] Ulysse Alexandre claps
[9:28] Moon Adamant: thanks guys
[9:28] Brian Livingston cheers
[9:28] Jon Seattle: yay!!
[9:28] Moon Adamant: let's hope i can be more present this time
[9:29] Moon Adamant: ok hmmm
[9:29] Brian Livingston: Side Note?
[9:29] Moon Adamant: yes?
[9:29] Brian Livingston: Is there a copy of the NG chrter posted in our building somewhere?
[9:29] Brian Livingston: Just a thougt that sorta hit me
[9:29] Rose Springvale: good idea ... i think only on forums
[9:30] Brian Livingston: Both in terms of organization and publicity in a sense
[9:30] Arias Ahren: Yes, is something like that avaliable?
[9:30] Moon Adamant: only in forums
[9:30] Moon Adamant: you know that this building is also a sort of WIP
[9:30] Moon Adamant: but for the record
[9:30] Brian Livingston: Indeed
[9:31] Jon Seattle: WIP?
[9:31] Moon Adamant: NG Charter: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1875
[9:31] Rose Springvale: work in progress
[9:31] Moon Adamant: work in progress
[9:31] Jon Seattle: ah thanks
[9:31] Arias Ahren: Thank you Moon
[9:31] Brian Livingston: Would the board be against posting it in this chamber?
[9:31] Brian Livingston: Again, just hrowing it out there
[9:31] Lilith Ivory: think it´s a good idea
[9:32] Rose Springvale: there is a box up there with the link to the thread... could add a notecard
[9:32] Arias Ahren: Could someone tell me about the configuration of the Board?
[9:32] Brian Livingston: Oh, is there? I'm a bit oblivious, sorry
[9:32] Moon Adamant: well Arias, is simple
[9:32] Moon Adamant: the Board is composed of all citizens of the CDS
[9:32] Arias Ahren: I see
[9:32] Rose Springvale: the black box above the cn map
[9:32] Moon Adamant: whoever shows at the meetings, votes
[9:32] Arias Ahren: Good!
[9:33] Brian Livingston: Oh, that';s the link to the CN-SE redevelopment plan
[9:33] Rose Springvale: except the chancellor :0
[9:33] Rose Springvale:
[9:33] Arias Ahren: Real democracy!
[9:33] Moon Adamant: the Guild also has another structure: the Faculty
[9:33] Arias Ahren: Yes
[9:33] Moon Adamant: which has another working scheme
[9:33] Arias Ahren: Please elaborate
[9:34] Jon Seattle: The factuly has been a bit quiet I suspect .. my fault .. unless someone got it going again?
[9:34] Moon Adamant: ah Arias, I am sorry - I will refer you please to the Charter
[9:34] Arias Ahren: kk
[9:34] Moon Adamant: hmmm Jon, no, i don't think so
[9:34] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:34] Moon Adamant: let's move to point 2
[9:35] Moon Adamant: seeing that people have to leave earlier
[9:35] Moon Adamant: 2. Planning for the term
[9:35] Moon Adamant: ok hmmm
[9:35] Moon Adamant: here we can divide this into several discussions
[9:36] Moon Adamant: first, we have pending projects
[9:36] Moon Adamant: of these, the two foremost are the Schloss and the General Master Plan (GMP)
[9:36] Moon Adamant: second, we will have new projects
[9:37] Moon Adamant: these, as you know, can either be requested by the RA or Exec, or can be _informally _ suggested by the Guild
[9:37] Moon Adamant: and third, we should discuss organization to carry on tasks
[9:37] Moon Adamant: do you all agree with this order?
[9:37] Arria Perreault: yes
[9:37] Arias Ahren: yes
[9:37] Sudane Erato: sure
[9:37] Jon Seattle: sure
[9:38] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:38] Moon Adamant: pending projects
[9:38] Moon Adamant: Schloss
[9:38] Moon Adamant: BTW, Rose, I saw that you added to the shared doc, but haven't seen what yet
[9:38] Arias Ahren: Moon I am Not familuar with the word Shcoloss
[9:39] Arias Ahren: sp?
[9:39] Moon Adamant: ah sorry Arias
[9:39] Rose Springvale: that castle
[9:39] Lilith Ivory: yes
[9:39] Moon Adamant: the castle here in NFS
[9:39] Arias Ahren: ahhh...
[9:39] Rose Springvale: i mostly just added people who wanted to see Moon
[9:39] Arias Ahren: ok
[9:39] Rose Springvale: probably more to add.
[9:39] Moon Adamant: ah ok
[9:39] Moon Adamant: so, for Arias' sake
[9:39] Moon Adamant: and everyone else
[9:39] Rose Springvale: The Baron, i think added comments
[9:40] Moon Adamant: hmmm mor ethan a month ago
[9:40] Moon Adamant: but in any case
[9:40] Moon Adamant: the schloss, as we all know
[9:40] Arria Perreault: which documents and where?
[9:40] Moon Adamant: it's one of teh oldest buildings here
[9:40] Rose Springvale: go on moon, i'll get it and add everyone here
[9:40] Moon Adamant: the shared gdoc that has the planning for the schloss
[9:41] Moon Adamant: the schloss has too many prims and has permission issues
[9:41] Moon Adamant: also, it is not suited for teh functions that are done in it OR coudl be done in it
[9:41] Moon Adamant: so, a group of people have worked on a document (actually, two - one is a powerpoint with reference images)
[9:41] Moon Adamant: that
[9:42] Moon Adamant: 1. has a rationale for the new project
[9:42] Moon Adamant: 2. tries to define specifications for the new buil
[9:42] Moon Adamant: 3. will define a budget
[9:42] Moon Adamant: 4. and the plan itself
[9:43] Moon Adamant: atm, rationale and specifications are ready or almost
[9:43] Moon Adamant: specifications may need to be a bit digged, it's a bit confusing
[9:44] Moon Adamant: so... we should try to pass the specs into teh budget phase and submit the project to the Exec for approval
[9:44] Moon Adamant: as for GMP
[9:45] Moon Adamant: the situation is a bit trickier
[9:45] Moon Adamant: as you know, we have been working on an expansion of the excellent GM;P done by Symo
[9:45] Moon Adamant: it's a very big plan, and has some very quirky technicalities
[9:45] Moon Adamant: i have been taking care of that myself, justly so because of teh technicalities
[9:46] Moon Adamant: when it is ready, it will be the framework for expansion for a long time
[9:46] Moon Adamant: now, i can carry that up, and in fact would like to
[9:46] Moon Adamant: but i can only re-start it in July
[9:47] Moon Adamant: in any case, i make the promise to have it ready by september
[9:47] Ulysse Alexandre: there's somewhere a new GMP ?
[9:47] Moon Adamant: well, in my PC, yes lol
[9:47] Ulysse Alexandre: ok
[9:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn pays a short visit and says hi
[9:47] Lilith Ivory: Hi Gwyn
[9:47] Moon Adamant: still in ACAD, i am dealing with the very tricky terrain on teh sims around NFS
[9:47] Arria Perreault: Hi Gwyn
[9:47] Rose Springvale: Hi gwyn
[9:47] Ulysse Alexandre: hello Gwyn
[9:47] Moon Adamant: wotcha Gwyn
[9:47] Jon Seattle: Does Google Docs and SItes have enough capabilities these days to host it?
[9:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn *waves* at all the cloudies
[9:48] Jon Seattle: Hi Gwyn
[9:48] Moon Adamant: hmmmm, from what i have seen of that, yes - it's absically a shared dropbox
[9:48] Moon Adamant: but to open the file, you'll need a 3Dprogram that reads .dwg format
[9:48] Rose Springvale: added you too Gwyn
[9:49] Moon Adamant: ok
[9:49] Moon Adamant: so this is what we have pending
[9:49] Moon Adamant: there are OTHER things more or less pending
[9:49] Moon Adamant: basically more in the 'when we have time to loook at it' state
[9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (thanks, Rose )
[9:49] Moon Adamant: such as the Rathaus here in NFS, etc
[9:49] Moon Adamant: let's move on to new projects
[9:50] Rose Springvale: moon?
[9:50] Moon Adamant: it'yes?
[9:50] Rose Springvale: do we have a directive on the Rathaus?
[9:50] Moon Adamant: no lol
[9:50] Rose Springvale: ok
[9:50] Moon Adamant: it's just me getting horrified at the amount of prims it takes )
[9:50] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[9:50] Sudane Erato:
[9:50] Moon Adamant: besides, we can't sit the RA there anymore
[9:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ... and textures...
[9:50] Rose Springvale: i know
[9:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: the SC still meets...
[9:51] Rose Springvale: and it could use a facelift
[9:51] Moon Adamant: i know
[9:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: agreed
[9:51] Rose Springvale: and it woudl be nice if it hosted our official cds "stuff"
[9:51] Moon Adamant: the facelif could be done, yes
[9:51] Moon Adamant: that too
[9:51] Sudane Erato: the only way we can preserve it is to take pictures 
[9:51] Moon Adamant: we can open a similar process to the schloss for it
[9:52] Rose Springvale: is it a kendra build?
[9:52] Moon Adamant: and i do have too a few photochroms of rathausen for reference too
[9:52] Sudane Erato: yes
[9:52] Moon Adamant: yes, it is
[9:52] Arria Perreault: we should achieve the Schloss first
[9:52] Moon Adamant: but yes, i woudl agree with Arria
[9:52] Moon Adamant: test the process in teh Schloss, then apply it to other builds
[9:52] Rose Springvale: sounds good
[9:52] Moon Adamant: ok, new projects
[9:53] Moon Adamant: i think i worte this before....
[9:53] Moon Adamant: the CDS may want to expand this term
[9:53] Moon Adamant: as you know, the decsion to expand originates in the RA, and then a request is made to the Guild to open the planning process
[9:53] Moon Adamant: but in any case, we should be ready
[9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hopefully soon... hehe
[9:53] Rose Springvale: smiles
[9:54] Moon Adamant: now, for the moment, some areas of expansion are very tricky
[9:54] Moon Adamant: namely, everything around NFS
[9:54] Moon Adamant: but the lower areas can expand with a lot of ease
[9:54] Moon Adamant: so we will wait for the decision first of all, and then issue recommendations if we are asked for
[9:55] Moon Adamant: but in meanwhile, we can go on working on teh rest
[9:55] Solomon Mosely: is there any demand for land in a particular theme?
[9:55] Rose Springvale: Moon, has there been any planning on NFS east?
[9:55] Arria Perreault: it would be good to know the issues around NFS
[9:55] Moon Adamant: Solomon, beats me completely
[9:55] Moon Adamant: i think Rose/Sudane should answer that
[9:55] Rose Springvale: rose has no idea
[9:55] Moon Adamant: Arria, just a sec and i will answer you
[9:56] Moon Adamant: hmmm Sudane, can you answer Solomon?
[9:56] Sudane Erato: regarding any expressed interest in a theme?
[9:57] Moon Adamant: if not, then we must recommend first of all that an enquiry be made, i suppose
[9:57] Moon Adamant: yes
[9:57] Sudane Erato: no... i really have no idea
[9:57] Solomon Mosely: and i meant from non residents. people who have come looking for land here
[9:57] Solomon Mosely: ok
[9:57] Sudane Erato: hehe... i'd love to have greek islands
[9:57] Rose Springvale: smiles
[9:57] Arria Perreault: me too
[9:57] Jon Seattle: I kind of like NFS's theme -- I think it was mideval german + postmodern? 
[9:58] Moon Adamant: i think that possibly the answer to that has more than just the theme factor in it
[9:58] Arias Ahren: Yes
[9:58] Arias Ahren: the entire Med!!
[9:58] Moon Adamant: ok, to answer Arria
[9:58] Brian Livingston would love to see NFS's mountain finished
[9:58] Moon Adamant: the issues surrounding NFS neighbour sims are terrain
[9:58] Rose Springvale: (me too jon, would like to see the 2010 expansion!)
[9:58] Moon Adamant: meaning
[9:59] Moon Adamant: the new sims must bring the slope down to the water level standard in a way that makes it possible to build
[9:59] Moon Adamant: also, we do have two more hmm themes in our new GMP
[9:59] Moon Adamant: two or three
[9:59] Moon Adamant: but one is archipelago, yes
[9:59] Moon Adamant: and the other is mountains
[9:59] Moon Adamant: you remember that, i am sure
[10:00] Moon Adamant: the mountains add another level of complexity to teh terrain modeling
[10:00] Rose Springvale: hmm
[10:00] Rose Springvale: the new sim on the same level as nfs has to come to water lever?
[10:00] Rose Springvale: i thought only the AM level sims did
[10:01] Moon Adamant: hmmm, let me think
[10:01] Rose Springvale: am linked nfs to cn, going from mountain to see
[10:01] Moon Adamant: looking on the floor beneath us
[10:01] Rose Springvale: sam as monastery
[10:01] Arria Perreault: there are 2 sims to reach the water to the west
[10:01] Moon Adamant: no
[10:01] Moon Adamant: but
[10:01] Ulysse Alexandre: it seems that east of NFS we schoul have montains !
[10:02] Rose Springvale: so go higher
[10:02] Rose Springvale: ?
[10:02] Moon Adamant: NFS east will expand the city
[10:02] Moon Adamant: so we need to look at it carefully
[10:02] Rose Springvale: do we enclose the expansion inside the wall?
[10:02] Ulysse Alexandre: I mean west, sorry !
[10:02] Moon Adamant: NFS-West will prepare the climb to the mountain level, as Ulysse pointed out
[10:03] Arria Perreault: right
[10:03] Moon Adamant: AM- East is dependent on teh relief of NFS-East
[10:03] Moon Adamant: and Rose, I don't know
[10:03] Moon Adamant: it can be done
[10:03] Ulysse Alexandre: that will be good to close the corner between NFS and the monastery
[10:03] Moon Adamant: often cities have several rings of walls
[10:03] Rose Springvale: ah, that would be interesting!
[10:04] Jon Seattle: It would
[10:04] Moon Adamant: but the thing there is to negotiate a somewhat lower level for NFS-East
[10:04] Moon Adamant: so that the relief in AM- East can be less trciky
[10:04] Rose Springvale: more meadow and less alpine/
[10:04] Rose Springvale: ?
[10:04] Moon Adamant: while at the same time dealing with the schloss hill, which is NFS' highest point
[10:04] Rose Springvale: and adding to the schloss
[10:05] Rose Springvale: i'm glad i'm not the map maker lol
[10:05] Moon Adamant: you bet
[10:05] Moon Adamant: this is a huge puzzle
[10:05] Jon Seattle:
[10:05] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:06] Moon Adamant: third point on this
[10:06] Moon Adamant: internal structure
[10:06] Moon Adamant: i would like to sound you all about the possibility of creating workgroups for the pending projects and new projects
[10:06] Moon Adamant: but with a clear line of reporting, please
[10:07] Brian Livingston: I think that the workgroups that we've used int e pst have been effecive at concentrating efforts and permitting specialization of skills
[10:07] Brian Livingston: Short answer, yes
[10:07] Moon Adamant: ok, i agree with that
[10:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[10:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn is reviving the old blog for the NG
[10:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: also, remember the old planning tool is still up too
[10:08] Rose Springvale: gwyn, tht project management thing too?
[10:08] Moon Adamant: but i really would like to have a clear WG feedback
[10:08] Rose Springvale: yes
[10:08] Moon Adamant: yikes, again?
[10:08] Moon Adamant: that is the third management tool i have to use
[10:08] Brian Livingston: Wow, my login still works :p
[10:08] Arria Perreault: what is the topic of the WG?
[10:08] Moon Adamant: well, one for Schloss
[10:08] Moon Adamant: one for GMP - I'll head that one
[10:08] Moon Adamant: and for new projects, one for each
[10:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn grins @ Brian
[10:09] Moon Adamant: WGs can be subdivided, as usual
[10:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (and yes, ROse)
[10:09] Moon Adamant: you know that I am a great stickelr for self-organization
[10:10] Arria Perreault: do we have a list of new projects?
[10:10] Moon Adamant: but i feel the need for more clear reporting
[10:10] Moon Adamant: no, and we can discuss those now
[10:10] Moon Adamant: does anyone have some project to propose?
[10:10] Arria Perreault: I would like to propose one
[10:10] Moon Adamant: ok, listening to Arria
[10:11] Arria Perreault: I have talked informally with several people about it and always got a prositive opinion
[10:11] Arria Perreault: I think we should add a water sim north to LA and w to Almunecar
[10:11] Arria Perreault: (openspace, homestaed or full simis still open)
[10:12] Arias Ahren: I think that is a very good idea
[10:12] Arria Perreault: then we have to modify the harbor of LA
[10:12] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[10:12] Arias Ahren: We could bring sailing and watter sports to CDS
[10:12] Sudane Erato: with any new sim, we MUST know how the tier will be paid
[10:12] Moon Adamant: masterplan as it is previews a pelagic sim west to LA
[10:12] Arria Perreault: it will possible to navigate from the estuary of CN to Almunecar through the river
[10:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah yes.
[10:13] Moon Adamant: but as it still has to incorporate the AA sims, i think we can study that
[10:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn also takes *ggod* notice of Sudane hehe
[10:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *good even
[10:13] Moon Adamant: in fact, wondering if what is below us is teh last version... i think not
[10:13] Rose Springvale: wasn't it up in classroom 2?
[10:13] Moon Adamant: I'll check
[10:13] Moon Adamant: can't remember )
[10:14] Arria Perreault: I think it would be an "easy" expansion, bringing added value with the possibility of navigation
[10:14] Arias Ahren: And training in activities realted to the seas
[10:14] Moon Adamant: that's teh issue with long projects: if you don't look at it for a while, you lose a bit of the trail
[10:14] Moon Adamant: well, this is my opinion
[10:15] Moon Adamant: if the RA wants a quick expansion
[10:15] Moon Adamant: then, yes, i would recommend an expansion on teh lower areas
[10:15] Moon Adamant: seeing terrain is minimal, and planning the layout is much easier
[10:16] Arria Perreault: (some people love to design mountains )
[10:16] Arias Ahren: The sim could contain a Greek island or two
[10:16] Moon Adamant: of course, we can also do a hmmm two-rates expansion
[10:16] Moon Adamant: a quick expansion in teh lower area
[10:16] Arria Perreault: yes, it could be the beginning of the archipelago
[10:16] Moon Adamant: a slower expansion in teh mountain areas
[10:16] Moon Adamant: but
[10:17] Moon Adamant: i remind you there that we always did only one sim per term
[10:17] Moon Adamant: it's a lot of work
[10:17] Brian Livingston: *nods8
[10:17] Rose Springvale: I will just throw out that we've been waiting to expand the NFS theme for a long time
[10:17] Moon Adamant: yes, but it's teh harder to expand
[10:17] Rose Springvale: and we always get a lot of interest in that land during oktoberfest.
[10:17] Ulysse Alexandre: it seems to me that north of LA is the easiest one !
[10:17] Rose Springvale: true, but that's hwhat makes it fun
[10:17] Moon Adamant: and we do have some side-issues relate dto that expansion
[10:17] Arria Perreault: yes, who will continue the city?
[10:18] Moon Adamant: the fachwerk issue comes to mind lol
[10:18] Rose Springvale: well, we can capture dianne....
[10:18] Rose Springvale: and i remember zaphod had made some
[10:18] Lilith Ivory: sorry guys, RL issues
[10:18] Rose Springvale smiles and remembers moon wants the biergarten back on the project list
[10:18] Arria Perreault: and finnish the wall?
[10:18] Lilith Ivory: I´ve to leave
[10:18] Lilith Ivory: see you
[10:18] Rose Springvale: bye lil
[10:18] Moon Adamant: yes, but we need to get the permissions really fixed this time
[10:19] Sudane Erato: bye!
[10:19] Arria Perreault: bye Lilith
[10:19] Moon Adamant: bye Lil, thanks
[10:19] Ulysse Alexandre: have a nice evening Lilith
[10:19] Moon Adamant: meaning
[10:19] Jon Seattle: Bye Lilith
[10:19] Moon Adamant: if we have people doing content for the sims
[10:19] Sudane Erato: the wall permissions are solved... I have all parts of it
[10:19] Sudane Erato: finally
[10:20] Moon Adamant: i MUST insist that the work goes through our normal proccess
[10:20] Rose Springvale: we finally broke it all sudane?
[10:20] Moon Adamant: of payment, archiving, etc
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[10:23] Moon Adamant: if we don't take good care
[10:23] Moon Adamant: that we follow this process
[10:23] Moon Adamant: in a couple of years we will be back again to the situation where we have content and can't access it, etc
[10:23] Arria Perreault: what do we pay?
[10:24] Rose Springvale: shall i bump the thread up in the forum wiht the contract language moon?
[10:24] Moon Adamant: i remind you all the the Guild was created for that reason too
[10:24] Moon Adamant: hmmm, ye splease Rose
[10:24] Rose Springvale: arria, each project has a spread sheet
[10:24] Moon Adamant: i can never find anything in the forums
[10:24] Rose Springvale: with the payment on it
[10:24] Rose Springvale: so for example all the LA builds were paid
[10:24] Rose Springvale: for the public spaces.
[10:25] Moon Adamant: exactly
[10:25] Rose Springvale: Most people donated their fees back i think, but they were scheduled
[10:25] Moon Adamant: the spreadsheet also lists the donations, yes
[10:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*
[10:25] Arria Perreault: ok
[10:25] Moon Adamant: so
[10:25] Moon Adamant: i would like to create a fachwerk wg
[10:25] Sudane Erato: the key thing is that the Guild received part of those payments, and that revenue has enabled us to pay our expenses
[10:26] Moon Adamant: if we move towards an expansion of the alpine themes
[10:26] Arria Perreault: so we have two projects
[10:26] Moon Adamant: ah yes
[10:26] Moon Adamant: ok hmmm
[10:26] Moon Adamant: so all agreed on the WGs again?
[10:27] Arria Perreault: yes
[10:27] Brian Livingston: yes
[10:27] Ulysse Alexandre: yes
[10:27] Sudane Erato: sure
[10:27] Rose Springvale: sounds good
[10:27] Moon Adamant: i will do this then
[10:27] Solomon Mosely: sure, but we dont have one for new projects, as we dont have one yet, correct?
[10:27] Moon Adamant: i will call the WGs through the forum, and people can sign up for them
[10:27] Moon Adamant: yes, Solomon
[10:27] Solomon Mosely: k
[10:27] Moon Adamant: when we have a commission, then we organize again
[10:28] Rose Springvale: i have one more request
[10:28] Rose Springvale: reminded just now by a lady who wants to buy land
[10:28] Moon Adamant: btw, I remind you all that the Exec can also commission us, and that the new chancellor hasn't been picked yet, i believe
[10:28] Moon Adamant: yes Rose?
[10:28] Rose Springvale: we really need to work on our covenants
[10:28] Rose Springvale: and make sure the links go to the right ones
[10:28] Moon Adamant: argh
[10:28] Moon Adamant: what's happening?
[10:28] Rose Springvale: see, check what it says here now for nFS covenants
[10:28] Solomon Mosely: and get prices in the descripts
[10:29] Solomon Mosely: and prims, etc...
[10:29] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[10:29] Rose Springvale: neufreistadt,info.. i think is dead?
[10:29] Moon Adamant: i can say happily that THAT is not Guild business ))
[10:29] Solomon Mosely: right in the parcel title: price, tier, sqm, prims
[10:29] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:29] Rose Springvale: we made them!
[10:30] Rose Springvale: i don't know where to send her to see covenants now
[10:30] Moon Adamant: Solomon, the issue is that people then change the land title... it's an ongoing process
[10:30] Rose Springvale: looking on portal...
[10:30] Solomon Mosely: the portal doesnt have it?
[10:30] Solomon Mosely: yup....
[10:30] Solomon Mosely: makes a note....
[10:30] Moon Adamant: ah, actually i don't know either where are the NFS covenants
[10:30] Moon Adamant: they're so old
[10:30] Rose Springvale: does anyone?
[10:30] Moon Adamant: possibly they're in the legislation wiki?
[10:31] Rose Springvale: i had them on that review document, but can't link to that lo
[10:31] Moon Adamant: they are from 2005, i think
[10:31] Arria Perreault: http://portal.slcds.info/index.php?id=covenant
[10:31] Solomon Mosely: and this woman is a builder, interested in democracy...
[10:31] Solomon Mosely:
[10:31] Rose Springvale: thanks
[10:31] Solomon Mosely: lets try and keep her
[10:31] Moon Adamant: good, tell her about the NG
[10:31] Solomon Mosely: yup, she was right outside during the meeting
[10:32] Rose Springvale: she's trying to buy a fachwerk
[10:32] Moon Adamant: ah, shame, i didn't see her, she could have joined us
[10:32] Rose Springvale: but wanted to know if there were any limitations
[10:32] Rose Springvale: she listened for quite a while
[10:32] Arria Perreault: invite her to the mmeting
[10:32] Moon Adamant: wny buy when you can make your own, and hopefully too make some more for sale?
[10:33] Solomon Mosely: i did, she wanted to keep shopping
[10:33] Moon Adamant: ok hmmm
[10:33] Solomon Mosely: and yes,
[10:33] Moon Adamant: mor eprojects that anyone would like to propose?
[10:33] Rose Springvale: yes
[10:33] Moon Adamant: listens
[10:34] Rose Springvale: its been a couple of years since we did a fundraiser
[10:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oooh
[10:34] Rose Springvale: even if we do a new sim, we won't be ready for payments for quite a while
[10:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn: for the Guild funds?
[10:34] Moon Adamant: ah yes
[10:34] Rose Springvale: yes
[10:34] Moon Adamant: we have funds to pay this land for three months more
[10:34] Sudane Erato: yes... we have about 3 months tier left in our account
[10:34] Sudane Erato: so
[10:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn hopes it's not the kissing booth again... lol
[10:34] Rose Springvale: no way we'll have income before then
[10:34] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:35] Sudane Erato: unless there are revenues from these builds
[10:35] Rose Springvale: ha! as if you ever showed up!
[10:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I did!
[10:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[10:35] Moon Adamant: so create a fundraising WG right now?
[10:35] Rose Springvale: well, if we want to have a fundraiser before we run out of money....
[10:35] Moon Adamant: i actually have some more new collages, but they're on portuguese poems lol
[10:35] Solomon Mosely: does he guild have anything, like builds, that it can sell?
[10:35] Solomon Mosely: textures, etc...?
[10:35] Rose Springvale: ohhh, i want them
[10:35] Solomon Mosely: leave them on xstreet, a shop in cds?
[10:36] Moon Adamant: hmmm, no - Solomon
[10:36] Rose Springvale: and am getting lots of .. nudging to get on with the day here
[10:36] Moon Adamant: the guild doesn't own the work, we are just facilitators
[10:36] Solomon Mosely: yes rose...
[10:36] Rose Springvale: we were going to certify builders and give them seals
[10:36] Moon Adamant: and planners, and managers
[10:36] Solomon Mosely: of course
[10:36] Rose Springvale: remember how long we worked on those!
[10:36] Sudane Erato: NG accounts are here... they are very simple:
[10:36] Sudane Erato: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key ... utput=html
[10:36] Brian Livingston: That leads into the discussion of the faculty or lack thereof?
[10:36] Solomon Mosely: well, could we, and it could be like a bake sale...?
[10:37] Moon Adamant: Brian, we could discuss Faculty
[10:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I can offer scripting classes, and let donations be for Guild funds — or better still, make the classes paid
[10:37] Moon Adamant: but I myself need to ask a some update on that
[10:37] Rose Springvale: oh cool
[10:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn just needs to rewrite some slides from Portuguese into English — it's a two-day session, 4 hours total
[10:37] Jon Seattle: There is always the election system but more a programming project than building
[10:38] Brian Livingston nods in agreement with Moon
[10:38] Moon Adamant: order, please
[10:38] Moon Adamant: guys
[10:38] Moon Adamant: let's create the Fundraising WG right now
[10:38] Moon Adamant: or better
[10:38] Rose Springvale: smiles
[10:38] Moon Adamant: i'll create it by forum post, and you can volunteer there
[10:39] Moon Adamant: all efforst will be welcome!
[10:39] Gwyneth Llewelyn: okies.
[10:39] Arria Perreault: can you quickly list all the WG before we go?
[10:39] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[10:39] Moon Adamant: Schloss, GMP, Fundraising
[10:39] Moon Adamant: for teh moment being
[10:39] Arria Perreault: and the new projects?
[10:39] Moon Adamant: if we can get some victiims, i'd like to have a Fachwerk WG
[10:40] Moon Adamant: to be defined
[10:40] Sudane Erato: Rathaus?
[10:40] Arria Perreault: I proposed one new project
[10:40] Moon Adamant: Schloos first, then analyse the process, refine it and apply to Schloss
[10:40] Moon Adamant: yes, Arria, but your sim project doesn't go through Guild
[10:40] Solomon Mosely: well, the direction of expansion is bigger than a wg
[10:41] Moon Adamant: RA has to approve the expansion first
[10:41] Ulysse Alexandre: to Rathaus, you mean , Moon ?
[10:41] Arria Perreault: but if some people can do some work, it can go quicker
[10:41] Moon Adamant: but still, if you'd like to start preparing some work now, sure, go ahead, BUT
[10:42] Moon Adamant: please udnerstand that it is not the Guild decision where to expand to - it's teh RA's
[10:42] Moon Adamant: so if i was you
[10:42] Moon Adamant: i would hmm first concentrate on teh rationale for expanding on that sense and defend taht on the rA
[10:42] Moon Adamant: and yes, Ulysse - apply it to Rathaus, sorry
[10:43] Arria Perreault: ok, I will
[10:43] Moon Adamant: i have given you a good argument already
[10:43] Moon Adamant: expansion in the lower areas can occur much quicker
[10:43] Arria Perreault: yes, I know
[10:43] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:43] Ulysse Alexandre: and easier !
[10:44] Moon Adamant: yikes, almost 20 to 11
[10:44] Moon Adamant: any other business?
[10:44] Moon Adamant: ah, I have one point
[10:44] Moon Adamant: but you guys first
[10:45] Rose Springvale: looking at potential divorce if i don't get offline soon
[10:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: uh oh
[10:45] Arria Perreault: is there a group forr the Guild?
[10:45] Brian Livingston: I think we should attempt to reboot hte faculty at some point in the near future, fwiw.
[10:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: go awaaaaay Rose
[10:45] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:45] Moon Adamant: eheheh just a sec then, since this needs you
[10:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[10:45] Brian Livingston: Although I realize that's been attempted several times now :p
[10:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: indeed Brian
[10:45] Moon Adamant: ok guys
[10:45] Moon Adamant: order please
[10:45] Moon Adamant: Rose needs to go
[10:46] Rose Springvale: idk moon, it is a community property state... hehe
[10:46] Moon Adamant: but i need that you gusy vote to reconfirm Rose and Sudane as heads of their departments
[10:46] Jon Seattle: I think Brian is right
[10:46] Moon Adamant: so
[10:46] Moon Adamant: your attention please
[10:47] Moon Adamant: or would you like to vote this on the next meeting?
[10:47] Jon Seattle: This one
[10:47] Arria Perreault: yes
[10:47] Brian Livingston: agreed
[10:47] Moon Adamant: ok, everyone paying attention?
[10:48] Sudane Erato: yes
[10:48] Rose Springvale: no
[10:48] Moon Adamant: Please vote then:
[10:48] Arria Perreault: aye
[10:48] Brian Livingston: aye!!!!
[10:48] Ulysse Alexandre: aye
[10:48] Moon Adamant: all agreeing to keep Rose as head of the Adminstrative/Agent Department, please say Aye
[10:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn: LOL — aye on ROse
[10:48] Moon Adamant: wait guys
[10:48] Sudane Erato: aye re Rose... abstain re me
[10:48] Jon Seattle: aye
[10:49] Ulysse Alexandre: aye again !
[10:49] Rose Springvale: aye to su, abstain re rose
[10:49] Moon Adamant: we have to vote on each person
[10:49] Moon Adamant: so
[10:49] Brian Livingston: aye, restated.
[10:49] Moon Adamant: again
[10:49] Arria Perreault: aye to both
[10:49] Solomon Mosely: aye
[10:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye on Rose, aye on Sudane
[10:49] Jon Seattle: .. is confused
[10:49] Moon Adamant: guys
[10:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Jon!
[10:49] Rose Springvale: lol hey, we have a new citizen
[10:49] Moon Adamant: first we vote on Rose, then on Sudane
[10:49] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:49] Moon Adamant: all agreeing to keep Rose as head of the Adminstrative/Agent Department, please say Aye
[10:50] Ulysse Alexandre: aye
[10:50] Brian Livingston: Aye
[10:50] Arria Perreault: aye
[10:50] Sudane Erato: aye
[10:50] Jon Seattle: aye
[10:50] Rose Springvale: abstain
[10:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[10:50] Solomon Mosely: aye
[10:50] Moon Adamant: Solomon?
[10:50] Moon Adamant: ah, thanks
[10:50] Moon Adamant: and aye as well
[10:50] Moon Adamant: carried, 8 ayes, 1 abstention
[10:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Okies.
[10:51] Moon Adamant: now for Sudane... wait...
[10:51] Moon Adamant: all agreeing to keep Sudane as head of the Finance Department, please say Aye
[10:51] Brian Livingston: Aye
[10:51] Arria Perreault: aye
[10:51] Ulysse Alexandre: aye
[10:51] Rose Springvale: aye!!!
[10:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[10:51] Solomon Mosely: aye
[10:51] Sudane Erato: abstain
[10:51] Jon Seattle: aye
[10:52] Moon Adamant: and aye as well
[10:52] Moon Adamant: carried, 8 ays, 1 abstention
[10:53] Moon Adamant: thank you all very much, you know that both Rose and Sudane have been doing a great job at their deps
[10:53] Brian Livingston claps
[10:53] Solomon Mosely: clap clap clap
[10:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: wtg ng
[10:53] Jon Seattle: yay!
[10:53] Rose Springvale: smiles
[10:53] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:53] Moon Adamant: any other business?
[10:53] Moon Adamant: Brian
[10:53] Moon Adamant: about Faculty
[10:53] Moon Adamant: hmmm, as i said before
[10:54] Moon Adamant: i don't have any recent update
[10:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn wanted to ask if there is a logo of the New Guild, but it's not that important
[10:54] Brian Livingston: I'd like to either a) have a meeting called of the Faculty and elections held or b) a meeting of the board to determine the stuats of the faculty
[10:54] Jon Seattle: Gwyn, there is!
[10:54] Moon Adamant: and actually, i do not like as a rule to intrude in the faculty business, though i am a meber myself
[10:54] Moon Adamant: but
[10:54] Moon Adamant: what i think is - you're a faculty member, i think you can ask for a meeting to be held
[10:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So I've heard, Jon It would be nice to have it on the blog and such (sorry to interrupt, Moon)
[10:55] Jon Seattle: sad to say I no longer remember who is faculty .. but glad to help call a meeting
[10:55] Rose Springvale: we have it .. i'll find it for you. we did a contest
[10:55] Brian Livingston: I hav ea partial list which seems to hav Sudane, Jon, Symo, myself, Moon, and Arria, but I honestly may be missing someone.
[10:55] Arria Perreault: Dnate and Samantha
[10:56] Arria Perreault: (I was chair)
[10:56] Brian Livingston: Thank you, and my regrets for missing those people.
[10:56] Jon Seattle: I think the person who had the shop on the Cardo .. he was chancelor?
[10:56] Arria Perreault: Alex
[10:56] Jon Seattle: (sorry for the lack of memory) yes!
[10:57] Moon Adamant: haven't seen Alex in a long while
[10:57] Arria Perreault: I may a list somewhere
[10:57] Solomon Mosely: so rose, yu on the singles market yet...?
[10:57] Rose Springvale: alexicon
[10:57] Rose Springvale: kurka
[10:57] Jon Seattle: I think that is complete
[10:57] Rose Springvale: hehe, he said i can't take the property if i don't survive
[10:57] Brian Livingston: Ok, proposed agenda for such a meeting would be publishing a list of current faculty, revisitng the process of adding/removing faculty members, and election of a new chair.
[10:57] Jon Seattle: we can invite other builders
[10:57] Solomon Mosely: lol
[10:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn smiles @ Sol but actually worries about Rose...
[10:58] Arria Perreault: do you have e adress of the NG blog?
[10:58] Moon Adamant: ok hmmm
[10:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Arria: http://newguild.slcds.info/
[10:58] Moon Adamant: i am not sure if teh Chair has teh ability to post in the NG forums
[10:58] Sudane Erato: guys... sorry i must leave
[10:58] Moon Adamant: if not, please let me know and i'll post teh notice for the meeting
[10:58] Brian Livingston: Bye Sudane
[10:58] Arria Perreault: and does the Guild have an SL-group?
[10:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah, at least that is easy to fix, Moon
[10:58] Moon Adamant: ok, dear, thanks
[10:58] Sudane Erato: bye all... ty!
[10:58] Arria Perreault: (in this case I am not member)
[10:59] Moon Adamant: Arria, the Guild only has a group for land
[10:59] Arria Perreault: ok
[10:59] Moon Adamant: you see that the Board is composed of all citizens, so a group just for Guild is unnecessary
[10:59] Moon Adamant: and could be exclusive
[11:00] Arria Perreault: ok
[11:00] Rose Springvale: can we adjourn?
[11:01] Moon Adamant: for me, yes - any second?
[11:01] Jon Seattle: Second
[11:01] Brian Livingston: FWIW, I'd like to try to get that meeting on the calendar for within the next two weeks?
[11:01] Brian Livingston: Second!
[11:01] Moon Adamant: motion to adjourn
[11:01] Arria Perreault: aye
[11:01] Rose Springvale: aye.
[11:01] Solomon Mosely: aye
[11:01] Moon Adamant: ok Brian, keep me posted then please
[11:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[11:01] Ulysse Alexandre: aye
[11:01] Solomon Mosely: have fun all
[11:02] Moon Adamant: thansk Solomon, take care
[11:02] Jon Seattle: Nice to see everyone!
[11:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Indeed
[11:02] Moon Adamant: motion is already carried, I vote aye as well
[11:02] Rose Springvale: you too Jon
[11:02] Brian Livingston: aye
[11:02] Moon Adamant: thanks a lot everyone
[11:02] Moon Adamant: transcript ends here