Board Meeting 25th October 2009 - Transcript

[Moon Adamant]

[11:21] Moon Adamant: ok... 20 mins past
[11:21] Moon Adamant: let's start
[11:21] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:21] Sudane Erato: kk
[11:21] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[11:21] Moon Adamant: agenda today has two points
[11:21] Moon Adamant: one is main
[11:21] Sudane Erato: lol )
[11:21] Moon Adamant: it has to do with Guild Board functioning
[11:22] Moon Adamant: as you all are aware, we haven't met for a month
[11:22] Moon Adamant: first we had the Oktoberfest, and in these big festivities i like to have people focusing on them
[11:22] Moon Adamant: because they are important for the community
[11:22] Moon Adamant: the last two weeks, i have not been well
[11:23] Moon Adamant: and this is happening with unfortunately too much frequency
[11:23] Moon Adamant: i hmmm am undergoing the last phase of a treatment that messes a bit with my capacities
[11:24] Moon Adamant: for instance, today it's Serious Typo day
[11:24] Sudane Erato: hehe... for everyone i think
[11:24] Moon Adamant: but at least i can make teh meeting
[11:24] Moon Adamant: very often i haven't been able to
[11:24] Moon Adamant: and this is what i think: that the Board shouldn't have to wait for me
[11:24] Moon Adamant: so
[11:25] Moon Adamant: i see two ways here
[11:25] Moon Adamant: a) I resign and we hold elections, and a person with more time holds the meetings
[11:25] Sudane Erato: option rejected
[11:25] Moon Adamant: b) we study another way, like Lil's proposal for a Secretary
[11:25] Moon Adamant: opinions?
[11:26] Sudane Erato: i guess B is the only option
[11:26] Sonja Strom: B seems to me like a good way.
[11:26] Moon Adamant: hmmmm not necessarily
[11:26] Brian Livingston: agreed
[11:26] Sonja Strom: Moon do you 'want' to resign?
[11:27] Moon Adamant: well, not necessarily... but i am worried indeed that the guild is affected by me being unwell at times
[11:27] Moon Adamant: mind you that even if i resigned, i would still work in Guild stuff
[11:28] Moon Adamant: you see, my issue is that i can wake up at 6 AM and be ok for work
[11:28] Moon Adamant: but maybe not be ok to hold the meeting on sunday X
[11:28] Moon Adamant: in my normal work.... i work when i can, it's np
[11:29] Moon Adamant: even if at 6 AM... 2.30 AM on a Monday... it's irrelevant, really
[11:29] Leonard Magnifico: Goodevening to all sorry I amm late
[11:29] Moon Adamant: hi Leonard
[11:29] Moon Adamant: np at all, have a seat
[11:29] Leonard Magnifico: txy
[11:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: welcome
[11:29] Sonja Strom: hi Leonard, welcome
[11:29] Rose Springvale: hi.. sorry too
[11:29] Rose Springvale: rezzing
[11:29] Moon Adamant: Hi Rudo, Rose
[11:29] Moon Adamant: these meetings are transcripted to our forum
[11:30] Rudo Gynoid: hello everybody
[11:30] Sonja Strom: Hi everybody
[11:30] Rose Springvale: hei
[11:30] Moon Adamant: we are discussing point 1
[11:30] Moon Adamant: and agenda is in the yellow box
[11:30] Moon Adamant: Guild Board functioning
[11:30] Moon Adamant: are you getting this all messed up?
[11:30] Moon Adamant checks stats
[11:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn is getting it fine — I think!
[11:31] Moon Adamant: i am getting lag spikes today
[11:31] Rose Springvale: not sure how to tell
[11:31] Rose Springvale: scrambled brains...
[11:31] Moon Adamant: Rudo... please take a seat
[11:31] Rudo Gynoid: yes , but I'try to get the agenda but dont get it
[11:32] Moon Adamant: ah, it will open a URL
[11:32] Moon Adamant: not a notecard
[11:32] Moon Adamant: so check your browser
[11:32] Moon Adamant: ok... point 1
[11:32] Moon Adamant: i was apologising for the irregularity of Guild meetings
[11:32] Moon Adamant: of late
[11:33] Moon Adamant: and explaining why it happens
[11:33] Moon Adamant: basically, i am phasing out a treatment which sometimes makes it impossible for me to be here
[11:33] Moon Adamant: and too often for my taste
[11:33] Moon Adamant: so... i put two options before the Board
[11:34] Moon Adamant: 1. i can resign, we hold elections, and the next person hopefully can keep the meetings better
[11:34] Moon Adamant: or
[11:34] Moon Adamant: 2. We study a way to have the meetings, similar to what Lil proposed some time ago
[11:35] Moon Adamant: in both cases, i'll carry on with project work... i was just explaining when you arrived that while it's easy for me to compensate work with work at odd hours
[11:35] Moon Adamant: and everybody who knows me for some time knows that i keep very odd hours indeed
[11:36] Rose Springvale: smiles. onlly because we are here when you are lol
[11:36] Moon Adamant: it's just really unpredictable that i can guarantee to be here every sunday
[11:36] Rose Springvale personally would love to NOT have another sunday meeting
[11:36] Sudane Erato: well, we surely don't need mtgs every Sunday at this time
[11:37] Leonard Magnifico: I apologise if it happens that I desapire suddenly, something is wrong with my internet conection, just to be known, hehe
[11:37] Moon Adamant: hmm, mind that fortnightly meetings are a bit confusing as well
[11:37] Sudane Erato: once every 6 months?
[11:37] Rose Springvale: how about once a month and report on projects ont he forum?
[11:37] Rose Springvale: how often is fortnightly?
[11:37] Brian Livingston: every other week
[11:38] Moon Adamant: once every two weeks
[11:38] Rose Springvale: that's what i thought
[11:38] Moon Adamant: well, we can try that
[11:38] Moon Adamant: but mind you, if to avoid criticism to the guild, you prefer that i resign, it's ok for me
[11:39] Rose Springvale: nope
[11:39] Sudane Erato: agreed... thats not an option
[11:39] Moon Adamant: you all like to see me here on this couch
[11:39] Sudane Erato: yep!!
[11:39] Rose Springvale: smiles
[11:39] Brian Livingston: indeed
[11:39] Moon Adamant: ok hmmmm
[11:39] Rudo Gynoid: yes yes yes !!!!
[11:39] Moon Adamant: then let's try this
[11:39] Rose Springvale: rudo! she meant leading!
[11:39] Rose Springvale:
[11:39] Leonard Magnifico: I am new, but I like seeing you, lol
[11:39] Rudo Gynoid: I know
[11:40] Moon Adamant: lol, Thanks Leonard
[11:40] Leonard Magnifico: ))
[11:40] Rose Springvale: (teasing you )
[11:40] Moon Adamant: for teh rest of this term
[11:40] Moon Adamant: i remind you that we will hold elections on Feb
[11:40] Rudo Gynoid: I am not good in my english but this I understand )
[11:40] Moon Adamant: we will try to do majorly a forum management
[11:40] Rose Springvale:
[11:40] Rose Springvale: good
[11:41] Moon Adamant: meanwhile, we can also study Lil's proposal and the words to that effect if we decide to change our charter, which must be reconfirmed by the RA then
[11:41] Rose Springvale: i'm sorry, what was that?
[11:41] Moon Adamant: Secretary to the board
[11:41] Rose Springvale: ah
[11:42] Moon Adamant: ability to hold meetings, etc
[11:42] Moon Adamant: but if i remember correctly, we were starting to discuss if votes could take effect, etc
[11:42] Moon Adamant: i myself have to go and read all that again
[11:42] Rose Springvale: Moon?
[11:43] Moon Adamant: yes?
[11:43] Rose Springvale: I think that is premature.. as most of the guild work is not Meeting type work not anyway, and i'd hate to see us change format before we bring the next sim online
[11:43] Rose Springvale: which i still hope will be sooner than later
[11:44] Rose Springvale: now* not not*
[11:44] Sudane Erato: ... so, Moon, you'll have to wait til after the next sim
[11:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn likes to hear that, Rose I mean about "next sim online" ....
[11:44] Rose Springvale: at least
[11:44] Rose Springvale:
[11:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Goodie
[11:44] Sudane Erato:
[11:44] Rose Springvale: gwyneth you are as imperialistic as me lol
[11:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hey, who knows, LL might "give" us a handful of openspace sims to play with...
[11:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Rose, YES
[11:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Guilty as charged — and proud of it!
[11:45] Rose Springvale: mountains... seas....
[11:45] Rose Springvale: land......
[11:45] Moon Adamant: the question there is if we can terraform them to our needs
[11:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Republic first, Confederation next, EMpire last!
[11:45] Rose Springvale: lol
[11:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well Moon, we can ask Sudane now
[11:45] Rudo Gynoid: we have a queen
[11:45] Moon Adamant: you're a pair of Disraelis, you two
[11:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I am not amused.
[11:45] Rose Springvale: smiles
[11:46] Sudane Erato: in the USS we have no estate rights over the Blake Sea... such as terraforming
[11:46] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah!
[11:46] Rose Springvale: but its.. water right?
[11:46] Gwyneth Llewelyn: But did you manage to "persuade" LL to use your RAW files?
[11:46] Rose Springvale: so other than adding islands or such...
[11:46] Sudane Erato: yes... with some islands that the moles built
[11:46] Moon Adamant: thus i was saying that we better make sure if it's meat or fish
[11:46] Rose Springvale: moles?
[11:47] Sudane Erato: no... it was entirely their design and construction
[11:47] Rose Springvale: i think i want papaya
[11:47] Sudane Erato: the moles are the LL people who build mainland
[11:47] Rose Springvale: ah, thanks
[11:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, the crowdsourced volunteers that work for LL for free.
[11:47] Sudane Erato: yeah
[11:47] Moon Adamant: is it only me or we're getting Extra-Pea Soup Fog TM today?
[11:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn: We are hehe
[11:47] Rose Springvale: lol i always have it off
[11:48] Moon Adamant: i can't see your faces
[11:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn loves fog.
[11:48] Rose Springvale: ew, yes
[11:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ㋡
[11:48] Sonja Strom: maybe because of the latest viewer update.
[11:48] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:48] Rose Springvale: ctrl alt shft and minus
[11:48] Sonja Strom: that's what I always use
[11:48] Moon Adamant: well, let's see then how this goes
[11:48] Moon Adamant: one thing i can promise to do, anyway
[11:49] Moon Adamant: if i miss a meeting, i'll post in the forums asking for input
[11:49] Rose Springvale: when we schedule meetings, lets try to do them on off weeks for RA?
[11:49] Moon Adamant: oh, ok
[11:49] Sudane Erato: yes... good
[11:49] Sonja Strom: That's a good idea.
[11:49] Moon Adamant: hmmm, i may need help to remember then when a meeting is due
[11:49] Pip Torok: its been a time-zone disaster for me today ... everythink ok?
[11:49] Sudane Erato: thats easy to remember then, since the RA will do the publicity
[11:49] Rose Springvale: lol
[11:49] Moon Adamant: hey Pip
[11:49] Sonja Strom: hi Pip
[11:49] Rose Springvale: we will have that next week too
[11:50] Sudane Erato: yes
[11:50] Sudane Erato: when the US changes
[11:50] Rose Springvale: US changes next week, yes
[11:50] Sudane Erato: pox on all this time change stupidity
[11:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Thank goodness...
[11:50] Moon Adamant: ok, so next meeting next week
[11:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Sudane!!
[11:50] Pip Torok: (sorry that was meant for rudo!)
[11:50] Moon Adamant: i totally agree Sudane!
[11:51] Moon Adamant: i always get very messed up with hour changes too
[11:51] Rudo Gynoid: pip is wispering
[11:51] Rose Springvale: are wei finished with that, because i have a question?
[11:51] Moon Adamant: yes
[11:51] Moon Adamant: please ask
[11:51] Rose Springvale: don't want to be out of order
[11:51] Sudane Erato:
[11:51] Rudo Gynoid: ask me any thing you like rose
[11:51] Rose Springvale: one is.. can anyone tell me what the deal is with the schloss? (later rudo! )
[11:51] Rudo Gynoid: ok
[11:51] Moon Adamant: nope
[11:51] Sudane Erato:
[11:51] Moon Adamant: tell me all about it
[11:52] Sudane Erato: yes, its been hijaaked by Samantha
[11:52] Rose Springvale: lilith went and did some decorating and got some .. hmm. comment
[11:52] Rose Springvale: that's what i mean
[11:52] Moon Adamant: mind you, i got some 1900 photos from it
[11:52] Rose Springvale: is it her project?
[11:52] Moon Adamant: interiors and all
[11:52] Sudane Erato: no!
[11:52] Moon Adamant: not that i know
[11:52] Rose Springvale: okay.. but she keeps changing things
[11:52] Sudane Erato: she's hijaaked it
[11:52] Moon Adamant: sod
[11:52] Moon Adamant: sighs
[11:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hmm
[11:52] Rose Springvale: i don't want to offend anyone, but ..
[11:52] Moon Adamant: the schloss is a mess
[11:53] Rose Springvale: (see new sim above... hehe)
[11:53] Sudane Erato: i agree
[11:53] Moon Adamant: i mean, from a pov of organization
[11:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm not sure if people are allowed to hijack buildings without an Exec permit!
[11:53] Sudane Erato: lol )
[11:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[11:53] Moon Adamant: because the schloss never passed through the Guild
[11:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aha.
[11:53] Rose Springvale: i think this is a grandfathered one. ohhh
[11:53] Rose Springvale: i know jamie never granted that authority
[11:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Shame on the Exec (winks at Rose )
[11:53] Moon Adamant: it's always been a side project
[11:53] Rose Springvale: it was one thing when textures were being repaird
[11:54] Rose Springvale: now i' hate to go there to see what is next
[11:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, I won't be the first in condemning a volunteer's work, of course...
[11:54] Sudane Erato: built by Kendra, and much discussed since then
[11:54] Sudane Erato: but only Samanatha has done any modifications to it
[11:54] Rudo Gynoid: may I give my opinion about the schloss
[11:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: But I think it would be nice to ensure *some* quality overall on the CDS builds
[11:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sure, Rudo!
[11:54] Sonja Strom: I even formed a group to talk about it once.
[11:54] Moon Adamant: please Rudo
[11:55] Rudo Gynoid: I thimk there are too many towers now, and the event floor where we dance is now to much cornerd if you get what I maen
[11:55] Sudane Erato: yes
[11:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: uh-huh
[11:55] Rudo Gynoid: the dance floor is gone
[11:55] Rose Springvale: is it appropriate for the guild to form a commission to give the exec a recommendation?
[11:55] Moon Adamant: well, i had difficulty taking pics there at the ball
[11:55] Moon Adamant: hmmmMMMM
[11:56] Moon Adamant: generally, the process is reversed
[11:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Theoretically it should be the other way round...
[11:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes lol
[11:56] Moon Adamant: the Exec asks the Guild
[11:56] Rose Springvale: well, we can't let Jamie have all the fun!
[11:56] Moon Adamant: but the schloss is a thorn indeed
[11:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aww why not, Rose?
[11:56] Sudane Erato: hehe
[11:56] Rose Springvale: and probably better for us as a group to support change
[11:56] Rose Springvale: otherwise it looks like a vendetta
[11:56] Moon Adamant: because namely, there is always that dicussion if it should be where it is or be moved
[11:56] Rose Springvale: either way
[11:57] Sudane Erato: we can ask the Exec if he/they will charge us with an opinion...
[11:57] Moon Adamant: and i don't know if it can be moved... or altered in some significant way without having to return a lot of it
[11:57] Moon Adamant: we can vote on this, mind
[11:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: mm hmm
[11:58] Moon Adamant: let me think
[11:58] Rose Springvale: ideally we'd have it span two sims
[11:58] Moon Adamant: hmmmm
[11:58] Rose Springvale:
[11:58] Pip Torok: Are LL in a position to help us?
[11:58] Moon Adamant: hm, they generally don't
[11:58] Sudane Erato: Pip, they will not!
[11:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, as in transferring content from a resident that is not in SL any longer?
[11:58] Moon Adamant: because of the thorny issue of IP rights
[11:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Only if we were mentioned in Kendra's will...
[11:58] Rose Springvale: but even as it is... its not much fun to decorate
[11:58] Rose Springvale: i don't hink so. i talked to them
[11:58] Rose Springvale: about her shop in ischia
[11:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*
[11:59] Pip Torok: I wondered if they had script to deal with ownership matters of longstanding builds
[11:59] Rose Springvale: they said that if the heirs didn't contact me, they'd not be involved
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I've heard once that you'd really have to mention it in your will.
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Exactly
[11:59] Brian Livingston has to run for a bit.
[11:59] Brian Livingston waves
[11:59] Moon Adamant: well, you know that copyright keeps for life of author+70 years
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: see you, Rose!
[11:59] Sudane Erato: bye!
[11:59] Rose Springvale: that's brian lol
[11:59] Moon Adamant: lol
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *Brian
[11:59] Sudane Erato: hehe
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: gah!
[11:59] Rose Springvale: by brian
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *sigh*
[11:59] Rose Springvale: guess i'm fluffy
[11:59] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:59] Rose Springvale: and he's thorny
[11:59] Rudo Gynoid: hi foma; neighbor
[11:59] Rudo Gynoid: I miss you
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: you are too - it's that leopard thing!
[12:00] Moon Adamant: here's my take on this
[12:00] Moon Adamant: if we do an intervention on the schloss
[12:00] Sudane Erato: kk... i suggest that we suggest to the Exec that they charge us with tearing it down and building a new one
[12:00] Moon Adamant: as Rose proposes
[12:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: We'd have to return it and start from scratch I guess
[12:00] Moon Adamant: it would be good to span it accross two sims
[12:00] Moon Adamant: that will demand a complete rebuild
[12:00] Moon Adamant: BUT
[12:00] Moon Adamant: i think that at the point this is nnow
[12:01] Sudane Erato: lol... also another sim!
[12:01] Moon Adamant: it's best maybe to completely rebuild than to corrct X's stuff, buit not Y's...
[12:01] Moon Adamant: if you understand what i mean
[12:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes... it is...
[12:01] Rose Springvale: yes, well
[12:01] Sudane Erato: agreed
[12:01] Rudo Gynoid: sorry I dont
[12:01] Moon Adamant: but seeing that if we do that
[12:01] Rose Springvale: i like the sentimental value of the schloss, but there are a lot of nicer castles around
[12:02] Sudane Erato: we can much improve on whats there
[12:02] Rose Springvale: with real ballrooms... sighhhhh
[12:02] Moon Adamant: we might as well have a schloss with real function
[12:02] Moon Adamant: meaning
[12:02] Moon Adamant: what we have here
[12:02] Moon Adamant: is a patchwork
[12:02] Moon Adamant: 4 years of patchwork, really
[12:02] Sudane Erato: yes
[12:02] Moon Adamant: so it has a lot of spaces
[12:02] Moon Adamant: that have no functions
[12:03] Moon Adamant: and the spaces that have functions don't work well
[12:03] Rose Springvale: and no places for the things we could use it for
[12:03] Sudane Erato: like a number of ancient RL buildings I can think of
[12:03] Moon Adamant: so we need definitely
[12:03] Moon Adamant: a plan
[12:03] Rose Springvale: true sudane
[12:03] Moon Adamant: meaning: a list of needed spaces, etc
[12:03] Moon Adamant: mind also
[12:03] Rose Springvale: am glad moon is stuck .. um .. staying as guild secretary...
[12:03] Sudane Erato: hehe
[12:03] Moon Adamant: that the Schloss has also been recommended for the seat of the SC
[12:04] Rudo Gynoid: hi Timo
[12:04] Moon Adamant: because we can parcel it off ina silence zone
[12:04] Timo Gufler: Hi!
[12:04] Rose Springvale: there are a lot of places for the SC now. we have a lot of open buildings in AA
[12:04] Moon Adamant: and atm, the Schloss doesn't have a place for the SC to meet
[12:04] Rose Springvale: public
[12:04] Moon Adamant: yes Rose, but we need a build with a 20 m radius for silence
[12:05] Moon Adamant: dunno, maybe the library?
[12:05] Rose Springvale: sure
[12:05] Rose Springvale: plenty of room there too
[12:05] Moon Adamant: ok for me then
[12:05] Rose Springvale: and the dinosaur.. er.. opera house..
[12:05] Moon Adamant: the mainthing is really the silence radius
[12:05] Rose Springvale: sighhh
[12:05] Moon Adamant: ahahaha i have a dinossaur like that in open sim as well
[12:05] Moon Adamant: and hi Timo, sorry )
[12:05] Rose Springvale: oh? lets talk
[12:05] Sudane Erato: i agree with Rose... we should try to point functions to the AA sims
[12:06] Moon Adamant: fine by me! another issue less fo rthe guild lol
[12:06] Sudane Erato: but we should also rebuild the Schloss as a grand event space
[12:06] Moon Adamant: that is definetely Exec
[12:06] Moon Adamant: ok, but to do that
[12:06] Moon Adamant: we need specs
[12:06] Rudo Gynoid: agree
[12:06] Rose Springvale: well
[12:06] Moon Adamant: so... Rosie can start thinking on those
[12:06] Rose Springvale: i think that turns over what the guild is good at to people who are hackers lol
[12:06] Rose Springvale: but okay
[12:06] Pip Torok: <coughs> wd money be a problem in a rebuild?
[12:07] Moon Adamant: hmmm that's for the Exec to decide
[12:07] Rose Springvale: we'd budget it with the new sim!
[12:07] Moon Adamant: after we have specs, we can plan and make an estimate
[12:07] Moon Adamant: ok, good idea
[12:07] Sudane Erato:
[12:07] Rose Springvale: hehe
[12:07] Moon Adamant: so... new sim...
[12:08] Rudo Gynoid: sorry, what is specs??
[12:08] Rose Springvale: specifications
[12:08] Moon Adamant: specifications Rudo
[12:08] Rose Springvale: details
[12:08] Rudo Gynoid: ok
[12:08] Sudane Erato: Rudo, they are not yet set
[12:08] Rudo Gynoid: thanks rose
[12:08] Rose Springvale: yw
[12:08] Rudo Gynoid: moon thx
[12:08] Moon Adamant:
[12:08] Moon Adamant: ok
[12:08] Moon Adamant: new sim then would be NFS-East
[12:08] Moon Adamant: now
[12:08] Moon Adamant: we have an issue there
[12:09] Sudane Erato: (with mountains and a stream)...
[12:09] Moon Adamant: issue is the bloody NFS terrain
[12:09] Rose Springvale: smile
[12:09] Rose Springvale is happy she for once is not guilty!
[12:09] Moon Adamant: GMP work is stopped because of that
[12:09] Sudane Erato: I move we table this issue for a future meeting ... when the project is proposed
[12:10] Moon Adamant: but i have given up now of finding a programmer to program me a converter of raws to isolevel maps and will do that by hand
[12:10] Pip Torok: seconded
[12:10] Moon Adamant: ok, motion on table
[12:10] Moon Adamant: all agreeing say Aye
[12:10] Rose Springvale: aye
[12:10] Pip Torok: aye
[12:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye ...
[12:10] Sudane Erato: aye
[12:10] Sonja Strom: aye
[12:10] Rudo Gynoid: aye
[12:10] Timo Gufler: aye
[12:10] Moon Adamant: carried, and aye as well
[12:10] Moon Adamant: so
[12:11] Moon Adamant: hm, where was i
[12:11] Moon Adamant: ah
[12:11] Moon Adamant: ok
[12:11] Sudane Erato: adjournment?
[12:11] Rose Springvale: lol
[12:11] Moon Adamant: lol
[12:11] Moon Adamant: ok, just let me finish this
[12:11] Moon Adamant: and one notice more
[12:11] Rose Springvale: i have a couple of things too short!
[12:11] Moon Adamant: so i'll be working on GMP again
[12:12] Moon Adamant: Rose, i will possibly need to bug you to grab new sculpties from AA
[12:12] Rose Springvale: kk
[12:12] Rose Springvale: you are still em there i think
[12:12] Moon Adamant: though the mountain area is the more urgent now
[12:12] Moon Adamant: ok... so expect some update on this soon
[12:12] Moon Adamant: ok notice:
[12:12] Moon Adamant: i have got LOTS of pictures of germany in 1900
[12:12] Moon Adamant:
[12:13] Rose Springvale: yay!
[12:13] Moon Adamant: including a very good series on Rothenburg!
[12:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (by "lots" she really means lots...)
[12:13] Moon Adamant: so.. expect an exhibit soon )
[12:13] Rose Springvale: a very nice castle as i recall....
[12:13] Sudane Erato: great!
[12:13] Moon Adamant: also have tons of fachwerk, etc )
[12:13] Rose Springvale: where will you put it?
[12:13] Moon Adamant: ah, i was thinking on that lol
[12:14] Moon Adamant: first let me put GMP on the go again
[12:14] Moon Adamant: then maybe i move GMP exhibit somewhere else
[12:14] Timo Gufler: are you going to replace the Schloss?
[12:14] Moon Adamant: and put Germany1900 in the ground floor here,a s it will fit it best
[12:15] Moon Adamant: hm, Timo, the idea discussed here is that a new schloss may be proposed with the new sim. so that we can have more event capacity
[12:15] Rose Springvale: well, you might want to spread it out.. in the schloss. or CN... etc
[12:15] Moon Adamant: for CN i have a few views of Pompeii
[12:15] Rose Springvale: and maybe get rid of the AD roman thing
[12:15] Rose Springvale: from LA
[12:15] Timo Gufler: Yes, having two castles near each others sounds bit special...
[12:15] Pip Torok: hear hear!
[12:16] Moon Adamant: but not sure if enough for an exhibit... i downlioaded 1000+ public domain images, and it's a bit of a blur
[12:16] Sudane Erato: i think 1000 images is enough for an exhibit
[12:16] Sudane Erato: plenty
[12:16] Rose Springvale: um, we dont' have the prims lol
[12:16] Moon Adamant: ahahah lol, tehy're from everywhere, including USA
[12:16] Rose Springvale: maybe in garnata....
[12:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You could stream them in...
[12:16] Rose Springvale: i could find a thousand there...
[12:16] Sudane Erato: hehe
[12:17] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Or use web pages
[12:17] Moon Adamant: to do that i need someone to script me a routine for photoshop to reduce them and fit them for SL importing
[12:17] Moon Adamant: anyway... Rose
[12:17] Rose Springvale: maybe you could pick a hundred or so
[12:17] Rose Springvale: thanks...
[12:18] Rose Springvale: did brian talk about his sign thing?
[12:18] Sudane Erato: no
[12:18] Moon Adamant: no, he left
[12:18] Moon Adamant: lat time we talked about it, it was nearly done
[12:18] Rose Springvale: well, i 'm sure he's looking for feedback... so if you have thoughts, we could put them in the transcript for him
[12:18] Moon Adamant: just some details and debugging
[12:18] Moon Adamant: ok
[12:18] Rose Springvale: i've had him put them around the sims... so that we had something
[12:18] Rose Springvale: does the group like the look of them?
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[12:19] Sonja Strom: I like them.
[12:19] Moon Adamant: i like them as well
[12:19] Sudane Erato: which signs are they?
[12:19] Rudo Gynoid: dont know
[12:19] Rose Springvale: over here in the corner
[12:19] Moon Adamant: i prefer that they are uniform, even if modern looking
[12:19] Moon Adamant: that way, any visitor to our sims can recognise them
[12:19] Sudane Erato: ahhh
[12:19] Rose Springvale: these
[12:20] Rose Springvale: and they use our logo
[12:20] Moon Adamant: nice shoes, Rose
[12:20] Rose Springvale: thanks! sonja got them for me!
[12:20] Sonja Strom:
[12:20] Moon Adamant: to where will teh Land Sales button link?
[12:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[12:20] Sudane Erato: neat
[12:20] Moon Adamant: or will it give a notecard?
[12:20] Rose Springvale: it has the notecard loaded
[12:20] Rose Springvale: and hopefully someday it will go to a web page with details per parcel
[12:20] Moon Adamant: it would be easier to link to an HTML
[12:20] Moon Adamant: exactly
[12:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *sigh*
[12:21] Rose Springvale: both is my preference
[12:21] Rose Springvale: because some people (ahem, me) hate to be directed out of world
[12:21] Moon Adamant: ehehehe
[12:21] Moon Adamant: and i hate to get notecards
[12:21] Sudane Erato: but the notecard will be static
[12:21] Rose Springvale: anyway, i think it's an improvement
[12:21] Sudane Erato: its great!
[12:21] Rose Springvale: nah, it will be updated
[12:21] Moon Adamant: mind also, that the html you only update once
[12:22] Rose Springvale: but moon, the web pages then have to be current
[12:22] Rose Springvale: and um
[12:22] Rose Springvale: ours aren't
[12:22] Moon Adamant: sighs
[12:22] Rose Springvale: i know, there is sooo much we can do yet
[12:22] Rose Springvale: but we are getting there
[12:22] Moon Adamant: i can't comment on that, because i don't even know what is the backoffice tool for the site
[12:23] Rose Springvale: we are a volunteer community, we need to keep remembering that
[12:23] Moon Adamant: but i agree, this nice sign is surely the way to go
[12:23] Rose Springvale: great
[12:23] Rose Springvale: hear that brian ?
[12:23] Sudane Erato: sorry... must go
[12:23] Rose Springvale: bye su!
[12:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: see you!
[12:23] Moon Adamant: bye dear, thanks )
[12:23] Sonja Strom: bye Sudane
[12:23] Timo Gufler: bye
[12:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I also have to hop to the next meeting...
[12:23] Rose Springvale: one last thing...
[12:23] Rose Springvale: lol
[12:23] Moon Adamant: Gwyn, you lead a dissipated second life
[12:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn will wait for Rose
[12:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hah
[12:24] Gwyneth Llewelyn: right, Moon!
[12:24] Rose Springvale: this is quick
[12:24] Rose Springvale: some people have asked us to have a german christmas market in NFS
[12:24] Rose Springvale: sort of like our Oktoberfest market
[12:24] Moon Adamant: ok
[12:24] Rose Springvale: so if anyone wants to work on it
[12:24] Rose Springvale:
[12:24] Rose Springvale: or make things for it
[12:24] Rudo Gynoid: or a christmas fcelebration
[12:24] Moon Adamant: need different stalls?
[12:24] Rose Springvale: or even have workshops
[12:24] Rose Springvale: nah
[12:25] Rudo Gynoid: or newyaers fest
[12:25] Rose Springvale: smiels
[12:25] Rose Springvale: from st nicks day to epiphany?
[12:25] Rose Springvale: i think we can adapt the stalls moon
[12:25] Moon Adamant: we could do a Will Talk Politics For L$$, thus financing our political campaigns
[12:25] Rudo Gynoid: we dutchies have also on the 5 of december a childrens celebration
[12:25] Rose Springvale: mostly am looking for participants
[12:25] Rose Springvale: yes
[12:25] Rudo Gynoid: of sinerklaas
[12:26] Moon Adamant: 6december is st. Nicholas Day
[12:26] Moon Adamant: you could do a series of holidays there
[12:26] Rose Springvale: well, snow is due december 1
[12:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[12:26] Rose Springvale: aand we have great holiday decor for cds
[12:26] Moon Adamant: St, Nicholas, St. Lucy's (the 13th)
[12:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: We do, yes, Rose!
[12:26] Rose Springvale: not sure about the politics in AA
[12:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[12:26] Rose Springvale: will have to ask i guess .. lol
[12:27] Moon Adamant: make a Winter Solstice celebration
[12:27] Rose Springvale: anyway, that's all, planting seeds for you
[12:27] Rose Springvale: yes, and saturnalia
[12:27] Moon Adamant: after all, i have my buddhist centre's winter solstice party on the 5th as well
[12:27] Rose Springvale: and boxing day
[12:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh yes
[12:27] Rose Springvale: and ahh fun
[12:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Boxing day?!
[12:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn *scratches head*
[12:27] Rose Springvale: hey
[12:27] Moon Adamant: the 26th
[12:27] Rose Springvale: its british
[12:27] Moon Adamant: 3ª oitava, Gwyn
[12:27] Rose Springvale: the day the help gets off!
[12:28] Moon Adamant: like in Madeira
[12:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Boxing as in punching people?:-)
[12:28] Rose Springvale: like it puting things in boxes lol
[12:28] Rudo Gynoid gave you The story of "Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet".
[12:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[12:28] Sonja Strom: hehee
[12:28] Moon Adamant: thanks Rudo
[12:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: What kinds of things get put in boxes then?...
[12:28] Rose Springvale: yes thanks!
[12:28] Rose Springvale: the day after crhistmas?
[12:28] Sonja Strom: presents
[12:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes...
[12:28] Rose Springvale: ornaments. gifts... etc
[12:28] Moon Adamant: funny, i have a friend calleed Americo )
[12:29] Rudo Gynoid: thats his horse
[12:29] Rose Springvale: thats all i have for now
[12:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Nice one, Rudo
[12:29] Rose Springvale: we will get dutch shoes...
[12:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oooh
[12:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and Dutch TV sets? Sorry, I couldn't resist
[12:29] Rose Springvale: knew i'd get your attention lol
[12:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha
[12:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn is becoming too predictible!
[12:29] Rose Springvale: (i dont' get that one)
[12:30] Moon Adamant: but it seems to me that you can do a lot of parties, choosing the days, Rose
[12:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Philips is a Dutch megacorp which does TV sets, Rose
[12:30] Rose Springvale: the real issue is that for me it is a veyr busy time in RL
[12:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: alas
[12:30] Moon Adamant: you bet
[12:30] Rose Springvale: so there are lost of opportunities for othes to get in volved too
[12:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: heh
[12:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn *chuckles*
[12:30] Rose Springvale: rudo, should i sit on your lap??
[12:30] Moon Adamant: and this year we get a visit of a Rimpoche too to help
[12:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ohhhh nice avatar, Rudo!!!
[12:31] Rudo Gynoid: yes my child come to sinterklaas
[12:31] Rose Springvale: hehe
[12:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[12:31] Moon Adamant: ok
[12:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn checks Rose's RL age first
[12:31] Rose Springvale: thinks sinterklaas would query if i'd been naughty..
[12:31] Moon Adamant: everyone to help Rose on this, lol
[12:31] Rose Springvale: yes please
[12:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I hope not, Rose
[12:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I mean
[12:31] Rudo Gynoid: well on the 5th I planned to do somethiong with Naf
[12:31] Rose Springvale: make something fun for the markte
[12:31] Rose Springvale: good
[12:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: about the naughty bits, not about helping you!
[12:31] Rose Springvale: that's perfect
[12:31] Rose Springvale: lol
[12:32] Moon Adamant: now, amove to adjourn
[12:32] Rose Springvale: i'm... niiice
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye aye
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh wait
[12:32] Moon Adamant: all agreeing, say Aye
[12:32] Rose Springvale: so move or second or whatever you need
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I should second first!
[12:32] Moon Adamant: oh?
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: "second first" lol
[12:32] Rudo Gynoid: oeps
[12:32] Moon Adamant: all agreeing
[12:32] Rose Springvale: aye
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[12:32] Sonja Strom: aye
[12:32] Rose Springvale: thanks moon, hope you are feeling better
[12:32] Timo Gufler: aye
[12:32] Moon Adamant: i'll go and stretch my back now
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[12:32] Moon Adamant: thanks everybody )
[12:33] Moon Adamant: copying transcript
[12:33] Rose Springvale: thanks everyone. see you later!
[12:33] Moon Adamant: afk
[12:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: thank you all