Board Meeting 6th September 2009 - Transcript

[Moon Adamant]

[11:07] Moon Adamant: everyone, please remeber that this meeting is transcripted into the CDS forums
[11:08] Moon Adamant: no agenda today again
[11:08] Moon Adamant: we'll just move through the pending issues and call new topics
[11:08] Moon Adamant: ok... pending
[11:09] Moon Adamant: GMP... still as it was
[11:09] Sonja Strom: Hello Ida
[11:09] Sonja Strom: Welcome
[11:09] Lilith Ivory: Hi Ida
[11:09] Moon Adamant: Hi Ida, welcome
[11:09] Ida Galtier: Thanks.
[11:09] Pip Torok: hi Ida ... pleased to meet you!
[11:09] zaphod Enoch: hi ida
[11:09] Moon Adamant: don't know if you heard... this meeting is transcripted into the CDS forums
[11:09] Pip Torok: ah ... good idea!
[11:10] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[11:10] Moon Adamant: Info centre - no newer feedback from Brian, i think he still developing the final version
[11:10] Moon Adamant: he is*
[11:11] Moon Adamant: Sonja's proposal about the Assistant secretary
[11:11] Moon Adamant: is still in discussion
[11:11] Moon Adamant: Sonja, if you won't mind, i'll keep it in discussion for another week
[11:11] Moon Adamant: to see if we can get more input
[11:11] Sonja Strom: Sure
[11:12] Moon Adamant: everyone, please visit this thread
[11:12] Sonja Strom: I don't think there is a need to hurry.
[11:12] Moon Adamant: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2552
[11:12] Moon Adamant: and please add your comments
[11:12] Moon Adamant: the topic is the creation of the assistant secretary role for this board
[11:13] Moon Adamant: it must be an elected role, but we want to clearly define the role of the assistant, so all input is welcome
[11:14] Moon Adamant: ok...
[11:14] Moon Adamant: this exhausts pending matters
[11:14] Moon Adamant: table is open for new topics
[11:14] Moon Adamant: anyone?
[11:14] Sonja Strom: I have a question.
[11:14] zaphod Enoch: may i speak
[11:14] Sonja Strom: After zaphod.
[11:14] Moon Adamant: Sonja first, then Zaph
[11:14] zaphod Enoch: okay sonja go ahead
[11:14] Sonja Strom: ok,
[11:15] Sonja Strom: I am interested to know how the redevelopment in Colonia Nova is going...
[11:15] Moon Adamant: hmmm, that is one of the topics which i have to discuss with the Exec
[11:15] Sonja Strom: an interim sort-of plaza was made, but it was going to have more after that right?
[11:15] Sonja Strom: okay
[11:15] Moon Adamant: for the moment, works are stopped
[11:16] Sonja Strom: I am just curious about it, that's all.
[11:16] Sonja Strom: Thanks.
[11:16] Moon Adamant: but there is need to evaluate what the Exec wants to do with that space and if necessary develop a new project
[11:17] Moon Adamant: ok... Zaph
[11:17] zaphod Enoch: well
[11:18] Moon Adamant listens
[11:19] zaphod Enoch: as i have seen for the last concerts at nfs at the biergarten it was not that good that the closest lm landing port was the marketplace. as with the first concerts we have had a lot of probs tto get the people in the right area
[11:19] zaphod Enoch: with the second i was prepared and put up signs
[11:20] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:20] Moon Adamant: yes, teleport into NFS is centralized
[11:20] zaphod Enoch: but it would be better to give the people a lm at the garten
[11:21] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[11:21] Pip Torok: just for interest what cost is involved in generlising access to NFS?
[11:21] zaphod Enoch: just in this case and in the case to set events in the sl event list
[11:21] Moon Adamant: Zaph, the question of teleporting routes is not decided here
[11:21] Moon Adamant: it's decided hmmmmMMMMM
[11:22] Moon Adamant: trying to remember last time we discussed that....
[11:22] Moon Adamant: does anyone remember if it was decided by Exec or if it went up to RA?
[11:22] Pip Torok withdraws any non-relevant question
[11:22] zaphod Enoch: well i can choose a lot of lms within the sl event list in cds but not the biergarten
[11:23] Moon Adamant: hm
[11:23] Lilith Ivory: isn´t the beer garden a seperate parcel?
[11:23] Pip Torok just notes that its the only sim in the cluster that is centralised
[11:23] Moon Adamant: you can't create a LM at the Garten?
[11:23] zaphod Enoch: as far as i know yes
[11:23] Moon Adamant: is that it?
[11:23] Lilith Ivory: can´t the owner set a special TP there - as it works with private parcels
[11:23] zaphod Enoch: but you can't set a lm
[11:24] Moon Adamant: oh, two things then
[11:24] Sonja Strom: Moon, all teleports in NFS go to the Marktplatz, unless one has sim administrator status.
[11:24] zaphod Enoch: well i can't
[11:24] Moon Adamant: you CAN allow landmarks in teh parcel
[11:24] Sonja Strom: A LM can be set for there, but the tp gets redirected to the Platz,
[11:24] Moon Adamant: possibly it isn't allowed
[11:25] zaphod Enoch: yes sonja it is like that
[11:25] Moon Adamant: ah, but the centralized teleport overrules the parcel destinations, see?
[11:25] Sonja Strom: with a big red laser-like light appearing at the location of the LM and a red arrow pointing to it in the viewer.
[11:25] Sonja Strom: Yes, that's right.
[11:25] zaphod Enoch: all tps go to the marktplatz
[11:25] Moon Adamant: yes
[11:25] Sonja Strom: Also, I should own up to that I suggested to zaphod he bring the issue here.
[11:26] Moon Adamant: because the teleport point at the marktplatz is overruling the parcel destinations
[11:26] Sonja Strom: I thought this would be the place to bring it up for discussion.
[11:26] Pip Torok: I'm thinking that centralised access has a definite impact on visitor returns
[11:26] Moon Adamant: yes, but we can't do anything about it
[11:26] Moon Adamant: well, for the record
[11:26] Sonja Strom: Who can?
[11:26] Moon Adamant: that's what i am trying to remember
[11:26] zaphod Enoch: would be nice somabody could
[11:26] Moon Adamant: if RA if Exec
[11:26] Moon Adamant: in any case, and for the reord
[11:27] Moon Adamant: this issue was discussed in hmmmm
[11:27] Moon Adamant: 2008
[11:27] Moon Adamant: back then it was decided thus:
[11:27] Sonja Strom: Yes, and 2006 too
[11:27] Lilith Ivory: several times ...
[11:27] Moon Adamant: that the other sims could have direct teleport
[11:27] zaphod Enoch: so we should bring it up again
[11:27] Moon Adamant: but that NFS, as a sim which had been planned around a central point... back in 2004
[11:28] Moon Adamant: would make more sense to keep that centralized destination
[11:28] Moon Adamant: in any case
[11:28] Moon Adamant: i think that these issues should be revisited sometimes
[11:28] zaphod Enoch: well, times are changing
[11:28] Lilith Ivory: how does it work with the events in the schloß?
[11:28] Moon Adamant: and i strongly suggest that you guys put up the matter again to discussion
[11:28] Moon Adamant: oh, same way i think
[11:28] Lilith Ivory: there is a special landing point sometimes
[11:29] zaphod Enoch: and so the requirements
[11:29] Pip Torok: agree with both Moon and zaph ... but need to look into the practicalities i.e. work involved, bottom-line etc
[11:29] Moon Adamant: i can't really tell because i always land on Gwynethstr.
[11:29] Lilith Ivory: and also the hidden TP to a meadow outside of the town;-)
[11:29] zaphod Enoch: well times are changing already and not in the next future
[11:29] Moon Adamant: oh Pip, work involved is an unchecking of a button in the Estate menu
[11:29] Pip Torok: as simple as that???
[11:29] Moon Adamant: possibly some extra signalling around
[11:29] Moon Adamant: yes
[11:30] Pip Torok: wow!
[11:30] Pip Torok: but then ... cost?
[11:30] Moon Adamant: depends
[11:30] Sonja Strom: Yes, the actual task of changing it is that simple.
[11:30] Sonja Strom: There is no fee.
[11:30] Pip Torok: well, well ...
[11:30] Moon Adamant: ah yes
[11:30] Moon Adamant: no fee at all
[11:30] Sonja Strom: Only the social costs :-\
[11:30] zaphod Enoch: have we lost the theme
[11:31] Moon Adamant: can have related costs, as said, if it's decided to create new street and direction signs, but that's all
[11:31] zaphod Enoch: or still on it ?
[11:31] Pip Torok: in that case ... can I suggest that this meeting recommends that change ... to who?
[11:31] Moon Adamant: well, try Jamie for a start
[11:31] Pip Torok: ok ...
[11:31] Moon Adamant: you will excuse me, but i am gettinmg a very bad memory of late
[11:31] Sonja Strom: zaphod, we are still talking about changing the teleport capability of Neufreistadt.
[11:31] Moon Adamant: and i can't really remember who approves this
[11:31] Pip Torok: I cant throw stones, Moon!
[11:32] zaphod Enoch: is that true
[11:32] zaphod Enoch: you all do not know who is responsible
[11:32] zaphod Enoch: ?
[11:32] Moon Adamant: well, Zaph
[11:32] zaphod Enoch: and may change it
[11:32] Moon Adamant: you must understand that we have lots of decisions going on at a certain time
[11:32] zaphod Enoch: no cmon
[11:32] Pip Torok: in pracice itll be the exec zaph ... subject to RA overseeing
[11:33] Moon Adamant: and reminding details can be a bit hard
[11:33] zaphod Enoch: thisis just a small issue which might be regulated in a few
[11:33] Moon Adamant: surely
[11:33] Sonja Strom: I remember for the holiday party on the last Grand Tour Rose got really frustrated about trying to direct visitors from the Platz to the Schloss. It was not easy at all -- and the stress of that was not a great way to keep a festive feeling.
[11:34] Moon Adamant: so my suggestion is definitely to put up the matter again to the Exec
[11:34] Moon Adamant: and investigate back in the forums how the last decision was taken
[11:34] Pip Torok: so if we move now, then Oktoberfest cd be transformed!
[11:34] Sonja Strom: Maybe, yes
[11:34] Moon Adamant: and Pip, the Guild didn't sponsor any kind of decision last time
[11:34] zaphod Enoch: okay and i hope it will get a more satisfying answer
[11:35] Moon Adamant: since it is really not our province, so to say
[11:35] zaphod Enoch: end of discussion on that
[11:35] Moon Adamant: also, the Guild itself was divided, some people sponsoring one point of view and others the opposite
[11:36] Moon Adamant: thus i *think* it actually went up to the RA
[11:36] Moon Adamant: seeing that there was an argument about hmmm
[11:36] Moon Adamant: location prices
[11:36] Pip Torok: ???
[11:37] Moon Adamant: well, unlike most sims in the CDS
[11:37] Moon Adamant: NFS has different prices per m2 according to location
[11:37] Moon Adamant: or at least, had in 2008
[11:37] Pip Torok: i see
[11:37] Moon Adamant: i don't know how that stands nowadays
[11:37] Moon Adamant: BUT
[11:37] Moon Adamant: there's also that discussion going on
[11:38] Moon Adamant: the discussion about uniformizing prices across the CDS
[11:38] Moon Adamant: and perhaps the discussion on direct teleporting can be linked to it
[11:38] Pip Torok: agree!
[11:39] Moon Adamant: in any case, previous 2008 discussion is in the forums
[11:39] Moon Adamant: there were very good arguments from side to side
[11:39] Moon Adamant: i definitely recommend that that discussion is read again
[11:39] Moon Adamant: and see if it still proves true
[11:39] Moon Adamant: ok... other matters!
[11:40] Moon Adamant: none?
[11:40] Moon Adamant: ok... motion to adjourn?
[11:40] Pip Torok: so move
[11:41] Moon Adamant: all agreeing to adjourn?
[11:41] Ida Galtier: Aye.
[11:41] Pip Torok: aye
[11:41] Moon Adamant: i'll take silence as aye...
[11:41] Lilith Ivory: aye
[11:41] Sonja Strom: aye
[11:41] Moon Adamant: and aye as well
[11:41] Moon Adamant: thank you everyone!