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Commerce Commission Meeting 7/28 transcript1

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[18:02] Fern Leissa: lol
[18:03] Fern Leissa: There you are
[18:03] Lilith Ivory: hiya :)
[18:03] Fern Leissa: You're all grey hehe
[18:03] Lilith Ivory: give me a sec to finish the note :)
[18:03] Fern Leissa: Sure
[18:04] Lilith Ivory: yay!
[18:05] Lilith Ivory: hiya Cam :)
[18:06] Fern Leissa: You must be up late Lilih
[18:06] Cam Holiday: hey
[18:06] Lilith Ivory: have you met Fern
[18:06] Lilith Ivory: I´m very tired
[18:06] Fern Leissa: Hi Cam
[18:06] Tor Karlsvalt: hi all
[18:06] Lilith Ivory: hiya Tor
[18:06] Fern Leissa: Hi Tor
[18:06] Cam Holiday: hi Fern
[18:06] Cam Holiday: HI Tor
[18:06] Lilith Ivory: you have met my hubby Cam? right?
[18:06] Cam Holiday: think so
[18:07] Tor Karlsvalt: yes hi cam
[18:07] Cam Holiday: at a gathering some time ago
[18:07] Fern Leissa: I met you once Cam I think
[18:07] Fern Leissa: On your land
[18:07] Fern Leissa: Good to come and support your sweetie :)
[18:07] Cam Holiday: you bet ya
[18:08] Tor Karlsvalt: I
[18:08] Lilith Ivory: well, can´t find a give content script at the moment
[18:08] Lilith Ivory: I´ll give you the summary of the first meeting personally :)
[18:08] Fern Leissa: :)
[18:09] Fern Leissa accepted your inventory offer.
[18:09] Tor Karlsvalt accepted your inventory offer.
[18:10] Cam Holiday accepted your inventory offer.
[18:10] Fern Leissa: Thanks Lilith
[18:11] Lilith Ivory: does any of you have more ideas how we can creat more trafic in the shops?
[18:11] Fern Leissa: Lilith I noticed one thing
[18:11] Lilith Ivory: alsoI´ve to remind you that the meeting will be transcripted in the forum :)
[18:11] Lilith Ivory: yes?
[18:12] Fern Leissa: It used to be when I first came here that you could type Neufreistadt or Colonia Nova into the search box
[18:12] Tor Karlsvalt: good transcriping is fine with me.
[18:12] Fern Leissa: And they would come up
[18:12] Fern Leissa: No more
[18:12] Tor Karlsvalt: so is posting it
[18:12] Fern Leissa: That seems like it might be helpful
[18:12] Lilith Ivory: oh wow I did not notice that
[18:12] Fern Leissa: Transcripting is fine
[18:12] Lilith Ivory: right it´s hard anyway to find the CDS in search
[18:13] Fern Leissa: Yeah. Temujin told me.
[18:13] Fern Leissa: Couldn't get home one day. lol
[18:13] Lilith Ivory: wow
[18:13] Lilith Ivory: I alsways use map tp to go to NFS
[18:13] Tor Karlsvalt: we don't come up when you type german either
[18:13] Fern Leissa: I'm sure I used to do that search.. One of the CN tps was for Arrias house :)
[18:14] Lilith Ivory: lol yes I know Arrias house well
[18:14] Fern Leissa: I think you used to get the forum too
[18:14] Lilith Ivory: we do need better search entries
[18:14] Fern Leissa: Who is responsible. Do we have to pay?
[18:14] Lilith Ivory: I think a search enty is 30L$ a week
[18:15] Lilith Ivory: the CDS should be able to affort it :)
[18:15] Fern Leissa: Yes. and would help the merchants
[18:15] Lilith Ivory: we would have to ask the exec
[18:15] Tor Karlsvalt: if you type democracy, we don't even come up
[18:15] Lilith Ivory: yes that´s a bad thing
[18:15] Fern Leissa: Sometimes I cant remember the shop but I remember the name of the place
[18:15] Tor Karlsvalt: Arria's Oberver does. But not CDS alone
[18:16] Lilith Ivory: I see
[18:16] Fern Leissa: Has anyone spoken with the LA merchants? have they been to any of the meetings?
[18:16] Lilith Ivory: I´ll make a paper with jobs we have for the executives hehe
[18:16] Tor Karlsvalt: perhaps we should be allowed to rent storefronts.
[18:17] Fern Leissa: Yes. I agree
[18:17] Lilith Ivory: to rent storefronts?
[18:17] Lilith Ivory: I´d be careful with advertisement signs
[18:17] Fern Leissa: Some may not want the long term committment until they see if they can generate enough income
[18:17] Lilith Ivory: people can be so tasteless
[18:17] Tor Karlsvalt: if we could rent storefronts on a weekly basis, maybe more ppl would try to open shops
[18:17] Fern Leissa: We could apply covenants
[18:17] Lilith Ivory: oh yes I agree
[18:18] Lilith Ivory: so you don´t want to rent only the front but the whole store hehe
[18:18] Fern Leissa: The problem is, I don't know if the merchants already here would agree
[18:18] Tor Karlsvalt gave you Ad Bench.
[18:18] Fern Leissa: hehe
[18:18] Lilith Ivory: ty tor :)
[18:18] Fern Leissa: Yes the whole store :)
[18:18] Lilith Ivory: what is that?
[18:18] Lilith Ivory: i´m a little sleepy at the moment :)
[18:18] Tor Karlsvalt: i thnk it is an ad bench like at a bus stop
[18:19] Fern Leissa: I talked about this earlier with some of the merchants, they didn't seem to like the idea
[18:19] Lilith Ivory: oh I see
[18:19] Tor Karlsvalt: what renting out the shop?
[18:19] Fern Leissa: Right. I guess they are concerned about unfair competition
[18:19] Tor Karlsvalt: but rosey pointed out at a meeting that if you arent really using your shop, then rent it.
[18:19] Lilith Ivory: seems to me that some merchants like to dislike things :)
[18:19] Tor Karlsvalt: of geesh
[18:19] Fern Leissa: That the renters have an advantage cuz they are not paying as much
[18:20] Tor Karlsvalt: oh
[18:20] Fern Leissa: :)
[18:20] Tor Karlsvalt: haha competition from what
[18:20] Fern Leissa: I though of doing that when I had the store across the road
[18:20] Lilith Ivory: to allow rentals in the CDS is a difficult thing anyway
[18:20] Fern Leissa: before I sold it to CLEO
[18:20] Cam Holiday: Maybe weekly rent could be slightly higher to encourage a longer commitment
[18:20] Tor Karlsvalt: fight over the customer that nobody has
[18:20] Lilith Ivory: people were arguing about that for years
[18:20] Fern Leissa: Yeah, I know it is difficult
[18:21] Lilith Ivory: right
[18:21] Fern Leissa: Is it a citizenship problem?
[18:21] Lilith Ivory: yup
[18:21] Lilith Ivory: of course lol
[18:21] Tor Karlsvalt: see lots of merchants no doubt care diddly about citizenship
[18:21] Fern Leissa: I figured. Same problem AA has to work out with the members who are not land owners
[18:21] Lilith Ivory: I don´t think you should become a real citizen by renting a shop
[18:22] Fern Leissa: Yeah you're right Tor they may not... but how to decide
[18:22] Tor Karlsvalt: i thnk there tho Rose owns the market and then can rent the stalls.
[18:22] Lilith Ivory: only if you are a long time renter maybe
[18:22] Lilith Ivory: what about you don´t be citizen by renting
[18:22] Fern Leissa: I see it's a problem, but maybe we should put some though to it
[18:22] Lilith Ivory: but you can buy the shop later and become one
[18:22] Fern Leissa: I agree with Tor a rent option might help
[18:22] Tor Karlsvalt: i was just thinking that a shop might take a chance on us, if they didn't have a huche outlay at the outset
[18:23] Fern Leissa: Yes exactly.
[18:23] Tor Karlsvalt: and then be stuck having to sell land or abandon it
[18:23] Lilith Ivory: we should connect with the citizenship commision
[18:23] Fern Leissa: I was trying to get Ars Toga to use the space for free (my shop) just to see if they would get traffic
[18:24] Tor Karlsvalt: well if the covenants were amended just to allow renting we would be ok
[18:24] Lilith Ivory: and? what did she say?
[18:24] Fern Leissa: But our merchants didn't like it. so I stopped
[18:24] Tor Karlsvalt: but this might also be a finance issue
[18:24] Fern Leissa: She was interested
[18:24] Lilith Ivory: :)
[18:24] Tor Karlsvalt: might need hippo boxes.
[18:24] Tor Karlsvalt: i doubtif our current system allows for renters or subleters
[18:24] Fern Leissa: What do you think Lilith... as a merchant?
[18:24] Lilith Ivory: Gwyn offeded her shop for free to a friend
[18:25] Lilith Ivory: nobody moinds that
[18:25] Tor Karlsvalt: well we could do that
[18:25] Lilith Ivory: I don´t mind to have more merchants here :)
[18:25] Tor Karlsvalt: and a land owner could make an arrangement where the shopkeeper just pays the AV
[18:25] Fern Leissa: Because I totally understand not wanting to be the first to set up on a "slow " sim
[18:25] Tor Karlsvalt: right
[18:26] Tor Karlsvalt: oh btw, i sold my first shoes on ischia today.
[18:26] Fern Leissa: And so if they are just a renter, they would not be a voter? Not a resident?
[18:26] Lilith Ivory: I think we could have profit from each others customers :)
[18:26] Fern Leissa: Congrats :)
[18:26] Tor Karlsvalt: i gree lil
[18:26] Fern Leissa: That's what I was thinking Lilith
[18:26] Lilith Ivory: right
[18:26] Tor Karlsvalt: once on the sim people would explore.
[18:27] Lilith Ivory: you can´t have the only shop in a Sim and complain about less traffic
[18:27] Tor Karlsvalt: might even sell land
[18:27] Fern Leissa: And if we have enough Roman shops here than we get that group of shoppers to come. One stop shopping :)
[18:27] Lilith Ivory: don´t have to be only roman items ;-)
[18:27] Fern Leissa: Exactly :) They might want to join us once they have wandered around
[18:27] Tor Karlsvalt: you know is see people in Cleo's or the time machine sometimes
[18:28] Fern Leissa: Right. But knowing what kind of stuff you'll find on a sim is helpful I think. I use it for my shopping
[18:28] Lilith Ivory: yea both seem to be successful merchants
[18:28] Tor Karlsvalt: good point Lil.
[18:28] Tor Karlsvalt: first priority is to fill he shops.
[18:28] Fern Leissa: CLEO says all they do is TP to her main store
[18:28] Lilith Ivory: sure and I do understand why I don´t sell much dirndl in CN lol.
[18:28] Fern Leissa: Yes. Empty shops are not good
[18:29] Lilith Ivory: right
[18:29] Tor Karlsvalt: lil
[18:29] Fern Leissa: We need more events to wear them at :)
[18:29] Lilith Ivory: didn´t we have rentals in LA a while ago?
[18:29] Tor Karlsvalt: if i type in german, CDS does not come up
[18:29] Lilith Ivory: I think Sudane experimented with rental boxes
[18:29] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[18:29] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[18:29] Fern Leissa: Yeah. She had some in the shop when I bought it. Took them out
[18:30] Lilith Ivory: well, we are VERY german ;-)
[18:30] Lilith Ivory: but as Sudane had rental boxes there already....
[18:30] Lilith Ivory: why can´t we use them also?
[18:30] Fern Leissa: Huum. we could ask
[18:30] Lilith Ivory: well, we might have to discuss that in the RA
[18:31] Fern Leissa: You know what else though...we need space for rezzing builds
[18:31] Fern Leissa: I think not being able to do that handicaps sales for both Alexia and Satir
[18:31] Lilith Ivory: well, you need to have the prims to rez your build
[18:32] Fern Leissa: They didn't say that... but that's my experience as a building buyer. I go to merchants that allow me to rez
[18:32] Fern Leissa: Right ... we don't have enough land as it is
[18:32] Fern Leissa: We'd have to expand... but it is a though
[18:32] Lilith Ivory: WE do have the land
[18:32] Fern Leissa: We do?
[18:32] Lilith Ivory: but should we give it to the builders for free?
[18:32] Lilith Ivory: look at this empty Sim
[18:32] Fern Leissa: No... not free
[18:33] Lilith Ivory: lots of land is not in use
[18:33] Fern Leissa: You're right
[18:33] Fern Leissa: So you are thinking some of the empty land could be converted if they wanted to pay
[18:33] Lilith Ivory: they would just have to buy a place to rez their builds
[18:33] Lilith Ivory: you can alwys have a platform in the sky to rez your builds
[18:33] Fern Leissa: You're right I guess... but I think there is a sq meter limit?
[18:34] Tor Karlsvalt: llil rez a chair or that ad bench for Gui
[18:34] Tor Karlsvalt: so we canlook at eachother while talking
[18:34] Fern Leissa: Hi Guillaume
[18:34] Lilith Ivory: oh Hi Gui .)
[18:34] Tor Karlsvalt: that works too
[18:34] Lilith Ivory: didn´t see you
[18:34] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[18:34] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hello :) It's ok, though, hehe
[18:35] Tor Karlsvalt: we have lots of land fern, but much of it is used as primland I think
[18:35] Fern Leissa: Magic :)
[18:35] Fern Leissa: You're right Tor. Probably is
[18:35] Guillaume Mistwalker accepted your inventory offer.
[18:36] Lilith Ivory: let me give you the summary of our first meeting :)
[18:36] Tor Karlsvalt: but is we get a new sim online this summer
[18:36] Guillaume Mistwalker: Thank you :)
[18:36] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah? A new sim?
[18:36] Tor Karlsvalt: perhaps we could see if a builderwould want a protion of it for a store.
[18:36] Tor Karlsvalt: yes gui
[18:36] Tor Karlsvalt: we had hoped ot expand NFS
[18:36] Tor Karlsvalt: to the east
[18:36] Fern Leissa: Actually looks like only CLEO's land is for sale now. The rest is no longer yellow on the map
[18:37] Lilith Ivory: Rudeen took the rest off the market I think
[18:37] Guillaume Mistwalker: Indeed, I saw, but will it be Alpine, Roman, or Bravarian?
[18:37] Fern Leissa: Oh. Ok
[18:37] Tor Karlsvalt: i hope we can move on that
[18:37] Lilith Ivory: she uses to do that when she takes land back
[18:37] Fern Leissa: That would be nice
[18:37] Tor Karlsvalt: Bavarian/Alpine
[18:38] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah, and if I may, why did she take it off market? Was it not selling?
[18:38] Fern Leissa: Will it include shops?
[18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: that will free up space in NFS also
[18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: as the shloss willmove to the new sim
[18:38] Lilith Ivory: hm I´m not sure
[18:38] Fern Leissa: Better dancin lol
[18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: it should
[18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[18:38] Lilith Ivory: maybe not to have to many yellow on the map
[18:38] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah, good, good... And that would make sense
[18:39] Tor Karlsvalt: well maybe, but the alpine moves better than the roman i think
[18:39] Lilith Ivory: or maybe so people have to contact the executive before they buy
[18:39] Lilith Ivory: the roman seems to move like sour beer
[18:39] Guillaume Mistwalker: That, too, would make sense
[18:39] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[18:39] Fern Leissa: Oh by the way, I am going to try and bring one event to LA/CN
[18:39] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[18:39] Fern Leissa: Maybe get us some traffic
[18:39] Tor Karlsvalt: great
[18:39] Lilith Ivory bites her lips and is silent again
[18:39] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah, good, good.
[18:40] Lilith Ivory: great!
[18:40] Fern Leissa: A friend owes me a favor and he has and av. He's going to give a talk on color in Greek and Roman architecture
[18:40] Lilith Ivory: sounds great!
[18:40] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah, wonderful!
[18:40] Tor Karlsvalt: oh that would be interesting
[18:40] Fern Leissa: I may need help advertising... but I hope it helps
[18:40] Lilith Ivory: :)
[18:40] Tor Karlsvalt: get Alexia and Sudane invloved.
[18:41] Fern Leissa: Good idea Tor
[18:41] Fern Leissa: I'll talk to them
[18:41] Fern Leissa: Do you think it makes sense for us to try and actively recruit new merchants?
[18:42] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes, I do!
[18:42] Lilith Ivory: sure :)
[18:42] Tor Karlsvalt: somewhere i saw a greek temple with the columns all pained ocher
[18:42] Tor Karlsvalt: looked great
[18:42] Fern Leissa: What do we have to offer them?
[18:42] Fern Leissa: Hi Rosie
[18:42] Tor Karlsvalt: Rosie hi
[18:42] Lilith Ivory: Hiya Rosie :)
[18:42] Rosie Gray: hi everyone :-)
[18:42] Tor Karlsvalt: here is one of our merchants
[18:42] Guillaume Mistwalker: We can offer them a community to focus on
[18:42] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hey Rosie :)
[18:43] Lilith Ivory: let me give you the summary of the last meeting
[18:43] Tor Karlsvalt: see I would do that.
[18:43] Tor Karlsvalt: we could offer rentals
[18:43] Tor Karlsvalt: or maybe a fee shop for a few months.
[18:43] Lilith Ivory: and remind you that I´ll post the transcripüt of this meeting :)
[18:43] Rosie Gray accepted your inventory offer.
[18:43] Rosie Gray: thank you
[18:43] Guillaume Mistwalker: Indeed.
[18:43] Lilith Ivory smiles
[18:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: We could also enlarge or makea second Platz
[18:44] Tor Karlsvalt: we should get the AKK ranchto list us as a riding sim
[18:44] Tor Karlsvalt: that might bring ppl
[18:44] Fern Leissa: I guess that's what I'm thinking Tor. To recruit directly we have to offer rentals
[18:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah?
[18:44] Tor Karlsvalt: right Fern
[18:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm...
[18:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: You know..
[18:44] Rosie Gray: sorry, rentals for what?
[18:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: If we had an airstrip, we could bring in the aviation community
[18:45] Guillaume Mistwalker: And shop rental, I think
[18:45] Rosie Gray: ah
[18:45] Tor Karlsvalt: many shops think they bring traffic and thus should be compensated. Anyway Cleo says
[18:45] Lilith Ivory: we talked about allowing shop rentals to bring more merchants
[18:45] Rosie Gray: lol
[18:45] Tor Karlsvalt: haha Gui
[18:45] Tor Karlsvalt: not a bad idea
[18:45] Guillaume Mistwalker: Pfft, this is my home.. I'd love to fly here...
[18:45] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[18:45] Rosie Gray: I would have rented a place somewhere for my shop instead of being in NFS
[18:45] Rosie Gray: if there had been a place
[18:45] Tor Karlsvalt: but don't think that would fly too high in RA
[18:46] Rosie Gray: NFS is a complete waste for a shop
[18:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: That's true :P and yes, NFS.. is..
[18:46] Lilith Ivory smiles
[18:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: A nice place to live, though
[18:46] Rosie Gray: yes it is
[18:46] Rosie Gray: and I think it could be good for shops, but you can't have all those empty buildings
[18:46] Tor Karlsvalt: well NFS is bavarian but is supposed to be an old town in a modern world
[18:47] Rosie Gray nods to Tor
[18:47] Fern Leissa: I like the idea of AKK listing us as a riding sim
[18:47] Lilith Ivory: right
[18:47] Rosie Gray: yes I like that too
[18:47] Lilith Ivory: does anybody have contacts to the owner?
[18:47] Tor Karlsvalt: maybe rose does
[18:47] Guillaume Mistwalker: Afraid not
[18:47] Rosie Gray: I know someone I think
[18:47] Lilith Ivory smiles
[18:47] Tor Karlsvalt: she got them to put a demo vendor in AA
[18:47] Keila Forager is Online
[18:47] Rosie Gray: who isn't an owner, but is some kind of administrator
[18:48] Fern Leissa: No. But I'd be willing to contact him if we cant find anyone. I have a bunch of his horses hehe
[18:48] Lilith Ivory: yea great :9
[18:48] Tor Karlsvalt: jaja
[18:48] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[18:48] Tor Karlsvalt: nine!!!!
[18:48] Lilith Ivory: tell him I´ve two AKK horses and a chariot also ;-)
[18:48] Lilith Ivory: no just mistyped my smiley
[18:48] Tor Karlsvalt: gee if I do build a stable, I am giveng you two rez rights
[18:48] Rosie Gray: what about getting some pictures of the sims on the Emerald Viewer opening splash screen?
[18:48] Fern Leissa: Ok. I'll say a lot of sim owners have his horses...
[18:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ya, Rosie
[18:49] Tor Karlsvalt: great idea Rosie
[18:49] Fern Leissa: With us riding around on our horses :)
[18:49] Lilith Ivory: do you know how to get a pic there?
[18:49] Rosie Gray: I don't know how to accomplish that though
[18:49] Tor Karlsvalt: haaha
[18:49] Rosie Gray: no :-(
[18:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: haha, well...
[18:49] Tor Karlsvalt: we can get a magnificent 7
[18:49] Rosie Gray: but I think it's worth trying to find out
[18:49] Lilith Ivory: we might have to find out
[18:49] Fern Leissa: :)
[18:49] Lilith Ivory: suddenly I miss Gwyn :)
[18:50] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[18:50] Fern Leissa: Where is Gwyn?
[18:50] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm.. I could see about etting someone from an SL magazine, that interviewed my old Egyptian RP sim
[18:50] Tor Karlsvalt: sound reat Gui
[18:50] Lilith Ivory: in europe as far as I know
[18:50] Fern Leissa: I should say that I have heard from some of our merchants, that they feel events are what bring traffic to their stores
[18:51] Lilith Ivory: right - but the events should be clöose to the stores
[18:51] Guillaume Mistwalker: But what event could we have here?
[18:51] Tor Karlsvalt: right lol
[18:51] Rosie Gray: yes I'm sure they would
[18:51] Fern Leissa: Yes.
[18:51] Tor Karlsvalt: lil
[18:51] Lilith Ivory: nobody walks away from the music
[18:51] Tor Karlsvalt: well we have Winter playing piano here every tuesday on the quay
[18:51] Lilith Ivory: concerts and dj events :)
[18:51] Fern Leissa: If we had games, or treasure hunts, it might be possible to include the stores
[18:51] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm...
[18:51] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hunts!
[18:52] Lilith Ivory: I always sell a lot in NFS during the oktoberfest
[18:52] Guillaume Mistwalker: I love that idea
[18:52] Rosie Gray: yes, putting some treasure in the different stores would get people going into them
[18:52] Tor Karlsvalt: well we are talking about a hunt for Oktoberfest
[18:52] Lilith Ivory: only time I ever sell something there
[18:52] Fern Leissa: Somone mentioned hunts to me... have an objective, have a prize and they will come
[18:52] Rosie Gray: yeah I can see that Lilith
[18:52] Lilith Ivory: right
[18:52] Fern Leissa: But I'd prefer that we somehow connected it to our them
[18:52] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ya, mix up the hunt...
[18:52] Fern Leissa: theme... German or Roman...
[18:52] Lilith Ivory: but IMO the merchants should participat
[18:52] Rosie Gray: that would be easy enough to do Fern
[18:53] Rosie Gray: the Treasure Hunt game that I recommended, you can use whatever you want as the stuff to hunt
[18:53] Rosie Gray: you can tailor it
[18:53] Lilith Ivory: oh I see
[18:53] Fern Leissa: We could ask the merchants to contribute a small prize
[18:53] Fern Leissa: Like a house or a fort
[18:53] Lilith Ivory: that is what I think
[18:53] Fern Leissa: Just kiddin :)
[18:53] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ya...
[18:53] Rosie Gray: yes prizes are good ㋡
[18:53] Lilith Ivory: or a shirt lol
[18:54] Guillaume Mistwalker: a prize for each objective gained
[18:54] Fern Leissa: yes shirt might be better
[18:54] Guillaume Mistwalker: and a assive prie for hose who finish
[18:54] Lilith Ivory: a whole house might be too expensive :)
[18:54] Guillaume Mistwalker: *a massive prize
[18:54] Rosie Gray: yes there should be a big prize for the winner
[18:54] Lilith Ivory: ok :)
[18:54] Rosie Gray: something really worth putting effort into
[18:54] Tor Karlsvalt: we should have an owl brand of polo shirts
[18:54] Rosie Gray: then there would be more participants
[18:54] Fern Leissa: Oh. How about an animated Owl
[18:55] Rosie Gray: how about cash?
[18:55] Guillaume Mistwalker: Maybe like, a shirt or clothing or an example of their shops' work, and the massive prize can be decided
[18:55] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[18:55] Fern Leissa: yes maybe cash
[18:55] Lilith Ivory: I also like the idea of giftcards to be used in the CDS
[18:55] Rosie Gray: oh yes gift cards would be nice too
[18:55] Rosie Gray: but you can't beat money for the real draw
[18:55] Fern Leissa: I like gift cards too. I find that I use them and spend more
[18:56] Guillaume Mistwalker: And to who ever suggested it, we should have an owl line of lothing.. "Confederate Owl"
[18:56] Rosie Gray: hahah
[18:56] Rosie Gray: well how does one get the texture, to make things?
[18:56] Cam Holiday: Gotta go everyone...thanks for letting me sit in on the meeting.
[18:56] Fern Leissa: I'm not sure Guillaume :)
[18:56] Guillaume Mistwalker: And our logo can be based off American Eagle
[18:56] Guillaume Mistwalker: Aw, ok, bye Cam
[18:56] Guillaume Mistwalker: Thanks for coming
[18:56] Rosie Gray: no American eagles Guillaume
[18:56] Lilith Ivory: I did some CDS clothes already :)
[18:56] Lilith Ivory: a knit cap and some shirts
[18:56] Rosie Gray: should be something German
[18:57] Fern Leissa: yes your hat :)
[18:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah, the beanie cap, Lil?
[18:57] Tor Karlsvalt: Well we have an Owl
[18:57] Tor Karlsvalt: minerva
[18:57] Lilith Ivory: yes :)
[18:57] Rosie Gray: yes the owl is very nice
[18:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm?
[18:57] Lilith Ivory: the original CDS owl is kinda ugly hehe
[18:57] Lilith Ivory: hard to work with it
[18:57] Fern Leissa: Tor what about some of our own local wine :)
[18:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: Where is this owl?
[18:57] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[18:57] Rosie Gray: look at the flag
[18:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ohh
[18:58] Rosie Gray: right over Fern's head
[18:58] Guillaume Mistwalker: I thought it was like a statue
[18:58] Tor Karlsvalt: Gui on he flag
[18:58] Rosie Gray gives Guillaume a POKE!
[18:58] Tor Karlsvalt: :)
[18:58] Guillaume Mistwalker: lol, maybe we should make a statue of an owl in flight
[18:58] Tor Karlsvalt: we really should update these flags
[18:58] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes...
[18:58] Lilith Ivory: anybody who wants the CDS flag texture?
[18:58] Rosie Gray: yeah I was just thinking that too
[18:58] Rosie Gray: yes please
[18:58] Guillaume Mistwalker: Please! I want one!
[18:59] Tor Karlsvalt: with a mouse in its claws
[18:59] Rosie Gray accepted your inventory offer.
[18:59] Guillaume Mistwalker accepted your inventory offer.
[18:59] Rosie Gray: thanks Lilith
[18:59] Lilith Ivory: the guild is responsible for updates I think
[18:59] Lilith Ivory: yw :)
[18:59] Fern Leissa: I'm also thinking we all probably have theme appropriate things in our inventory that are transfer and that we might want to add to the prizes to give away
[18:59] Rosie Gray: the Guild seems to never meet or do anything
[18:59] Tor Karlsvalt: I know lil, but th eflags o nths plaza are the old flag
[18:59] Lilith Ivory: right :(
[18:59] Guillaume Mistwalker: Thank you Lil
[19:00] Lilith Ivory: oh you should tell the exec to update them :)
[19:00] Tor Karlsvalt: i know Rosie.
[19:00] Tor Karlsvalt: The Chancellor or RA has to tell it to to something
[19:00] Guillaume Mistwalker: And I think that if we do get this hunt on, it should be more representative of our merchants
[19:00] Tor Karlsvalt: right
[19:00] Rosie Gray: yes I agree Guilllaume
[19:00] Lilith Ivory: a concerned resident could tell Sonja also :)
[19:00] Tor Karlsvalt: the exec should do that stuff w/o bein gasked
[19:01] Guillaume Mistwalker: Agreed, Tor...
[19:01] Lilith Ivory: well ...
[19:01] Fern Leissa: yeah but everybody is busy... we need to be the squeeky wheel
[19:01] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes...
[19:01] Rosie Gray: true, Fern
[19:01] Guillaume Mistwalker: MAybe we should make a new commission, The Up-to-date Commission.
[19:01] Tor Karlsvalt: well i have no rez righs

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Re: Commerce Commission Meeting 7/28 transcript2

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[19:01] Lilith Ivory: have you seen the TP boards?
[19:01] Tor Karlsvalt: rights here
[19:01] Rosie Gray: neither do I Tor
[19:02] Tor Karlsvalt: nope
[19:02] Lilith Ivory: do you think those work?
[19:02] Guillaume Mistwalker: I am afraid not
[19:02] Lilith Ivory: I´d prefer to have ones with signs of the merchants
[19:02] Rosie Gray: I've seen them, it's a good idea, but I think they could be better
[19:02] Lilith Ivory: what do you think?
[19:02] Lilith Ivory: way better
[19:02] Rosie Gray: yes exactly Lilith
[19:02] Lilith Ivory giggles
[19:02] Fern Leissa: Yes. I like the merchant signs better too
[19:02] Guillaume Mistwalker: I agree
[19:02] Rosie Gray: and also integrated into the sim themes
[19:02] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes...
[19:02] Lilith Ivory: and they should fit the CDS or Sim theme
[19:02] Rosie Gray: they are just prims standing there, as it is
[19:02] Guillaume Mistwalker: But where are these tp hubs?
[19:03] Lilith Ivory: right
[19:03] Tor Karlsvalt: i think that was planned.
[19:03] Lilith Ivory: I nealy returned the one in LA by accident as litter
[19:03] Rosie Gray agrees with Lilith
[19:03] Tor Karlsvalt: oo ouch
[19:03] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:03] Guillaume Mistwalker: Also.. if I may be pedantic, that flag is about .5of a meter off the patio...
[19:04] Rosie Gray: well really, there wasn't a lot of thought into the creation of them
[19:04] Tor Karlsvalt: that could have set off a war
[19:04] Lilith Ivory: don´t want to start another beach fight ;-)
[19:04] Lilith Ivory: right
[19:04] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:04] Rosie Gray: oh Guillaume, I noticed that too!
[19:04] Rosie Gray: hahah
[19:04] Fern Leissa: I'm sorry guys, but I have to go. I'll look for the transcript and be thinking about a theme for a hunt.
[19:04] Tor Karlsvalt: haah gui
[19:04] Fern Leissa: Bye for now
[19:04] Lilith Ivory: yea great
[19:04] Rosie Gray: bye bye Fern
[19:04] Lilith Ivory: bye Fern
[19:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: Aw, bye Fern! Thanks for coming!
[19:04] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[19:04] Tor Karlsvalt: by gosh He's right
[19:04] Rosie Gray: lol
[19:04] Rosie Gray: it's the little things that make the difference!
[19:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: hehe
[19:05] Guillaume Mistwalker: Indeed, very, very true
[19:05] Rosie Gray: something else I notice, just sitting here
[19:05] Rosie Gray: is that there is no soundscape
[19:05] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah?
[19:05] Lilith Ivory: yes?
[19:05] Rosie Gray: it's just blank
[19:05] Fern Leissa is Offline
[19:05] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm...
[19:05] Rosie Gray: we have a flag flapping wildly
[19:05] Rosie Gray: but no flap sound
[19:05] Tor Karlsvalt: haha,
[19:05] Rosie Gray: we have the sea right there, but no water sounds, no bird sounds
[19:05] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah, true
[19:05] Rosie Gray: nothing
[19:05] Lilith Ivory: ooh wow
[19:05] Tor Karlsvalt: true
[19:05] Rosie Gray: and also no music playing
[19:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: None of that funny music playing either
[19:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: agreed, Rosie
[19:06] Tor Karlsvalt: you know i just realized
[19:06] Tor Karlsvalt: teh waves are gone
[19:06] Rosie Gray: yes?
[19:06] Rosie Gray: was there waves before?
[19:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: On the beach?
[19:06] Tor Karlsvalt: Delia put up waves for a beach party
[19:06] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[19:06] Tor Karlsvalt: nice ones
[19:06] Lilith Ivory: wow
[19:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: Near here?
[19:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Or near the quay?
[19:07] Rosie Gray: awh, well too bad they're gone
[19:07] Rosie Gray: anyway, I always notice the soundscape
[19:07] Rosie Gray: I think it brings the place alive
[19:07] Tor Karlsvalt: you are right about sounds
[19:07] Lilith Ivory: I like to have sounds :)
[19:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hehe, I always notice the architecture...
[19:07] Tor Karlsvalt: very important
[19:07] Rosie Gray: which is another thing about NFS, at the Marketplatz
[19:07] Rosie Gray: it also needs some sounds
[19:07] Rosie Gray: oh I notice the architecture too Guillaume
[19:07] Rosie Gray grins
[19:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes, definitely
[19:08] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hehe, always beating me at everything, Rosie
[19:08] Tor Karlsvalt: I wonder if there are market sounds
[19:08] Rosie Gray: I wish I could just put some sounds out!
[19:08] Rosie Gray: oh yes there are
[19:08] Lilith Ivory: I bet - have been at a few cool sound stores lately
[19:08] Tor Karlsvalt: I think if we asked to be janitors, we would get rez rights
[19:08] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[19:08] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:08] Rosie Gray: hahah
[19:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ya, we should :P
[19:09] Rosie Gray: you know what this group REALLY needs, is a Public Works
[19:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Fix all the flags that are a meter off the ground
[19:09] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:09] Tor Karlsvalt: Yes!!!
[19:09] Rosie Gray: there are too many politicians
[19:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes... definitely
[19:09] Tor Karlsvalt: hear hear
[19:09] Rosie Gray: and nobody that can just do the little things
[19:09] Tor Karlsvalt: um wait that'sme
[19:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: And alot of us are builders
[19:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: lol, Tor
[19:09] Lilith Ivory: is kinda scared about an army of janitos also :)
[19:09] Rosie Gray: hahahha! Tor
[19:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: We're all politicans here, no?
[19:09] Tor Karlsvalt: damn the lot of em
[19:10] Rosie Gray: no we aren't
[19:10] Rosie Gray: I'm not a politician
[19:10] Lilith Ivory: time for you to become one ;-)
[19:10] Rosie Gray: lol
[19:10] Lilith Ivory gives Rosie a winning smiles
[19:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: lol, I think you are more of a politician than I
[19:10] Rosie Gray: my husband keeps threatening to run me for office, in RL
[19:10] Tor Karlsvalt: yeah you two
[19:10] Rosie Gray: hahahha
[19:10] Rosie Gray: noooo way!
[19:10] Tor Karlsvalt: we will be having a by-electioin
[19:10] Lilith Ivory: cool
[19:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah :)
[19:10] Tor Karlsvalt: electon
[19:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: I saw
[19:11] Tor Karlsvalt: Gui?
[19:11] Tor Karlsvalt: Rosie?
[19:11] Lilith Ivory: being in the RA would provide you a lot of practise
[19:11] Tor Karlsvalt: never say never
[19:11] Guillaume Mistwalker: I... I don't know...
[19:11] Rosie Gray: true, good point Tor
[19:11] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:11] Lilith Ivory: I never thought of becoming a politican also
[19:11] Guillaume Mistwalker: I suppose I could try... Haha
[19:11] Lilith Ivory: was happy gardening
[19:11] Rosie Gray smiles back at Lilith in appreciation of her hard work
[19:11] Tor Karlsvalt: shoot Gui thats all any of us doe
[19:11] Tor Karlsvalt: do
[19:12] Rosie Gray: yes you should give it a go Guil!
[19:12] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hehe.. I'll look into it now
[19:12] Lilith Ivory: I´m sitting here instead of kissing my hubby Cam lol
[19:12] Rosie Gray: sorry, I guess we are off topic
[19:12] Lilith Ivory: well, might be :)
[19:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: Thank you guys...
[19:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes, I suppose we are
[19:13] Tor Karlsvalt: well yes and no
[19:13] Tor Karlsvalt: RA need ppl who want to change things
[19:13] Lilith Ivory: Arria asked me to put a list together about the merchants we have in the CDS
[19:13] Tor Karlsvalt: not always stuck in all the old ways
[19:13] Rosie Gray nods in agreement
[19:13] Rosie Gray: hard to do that though, it seems
[19:13] Lilith Ivory: right
[19:13] Tor Karlsvalt: yes Rosie
[19:14] Tor Karlsvalt: but new eyes help
[19:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm...
[19:14] Tor Karlsvalt: see Gui already saw this flag loating in air
[19:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: Number 7.
[19:14] Rosie Gray wishes she could just slip a sound stone with some seagulls and wind in it under that tree
[19:14] Tor Karlsvalt: which I might add is in viloation of the covenants
[19:14] Rose Springvale is Online
[19:14] Rosie Gray: what is?
[19:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah? The flag?
[19:15] Rosie Gray: the floating flag?
[19:15] Tor Karlsvalt: the fact that it is floating
[19:15] Rosie Gray: that is an example of someone doing something in haste
[19:15] Lilith Ivory: well, that´s the problem
[19:15] Tor Karlsvalt: Floating sings are not allowed
[19:15] Rosie Gray: because they have too much else to do
[19:15] Lilith Ivory: even a janitor can´t move it
[19:15] Lilith Ivory: would have to return the flag :(
[19:15] Rosie Gray: yes exactly!
[19:15] Rosie Gray: that's just plain bad
[19:15] Rosie Gray: and we can't even rez a stand to put under it
[19:16] Tor Karlsvalt: i like that idea of a public works cadre
[19:16] Guillaume Mistwalker: And concerning No. 7 on the Summary, what if we had a sort of "Farmers" market each week in a different sim?
[19:16] Tor Karlsvalt: and if we had more merchants they would want stuff done.
[19:16] Rosie Gray: oh that would be fun
[19:16] Sonja Strom is Online
[19:16] Lilith Ivory: well, I could but do we want to spend a prim for that?
[19:16] Tor Karlsvalt: that's a nice idea
[19:17] Rosie Gray: well it looks pretty bad like that
[19:17] Lilith Ivory: Sonja is on
[19:17] Rosie Gray: I rather it wasn't there
[19:17] Tor Karlsvalt: we could make a point to be there after say RA meetings.
[19:17] Lilith Ivory: we could ask her to come and move the flag :)
[19:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: And I don't think so, Lil - infact, there are 14 prims in those two flags that aren't needed
[19:17] Lilith Ivory: Hiya Rose
[19:17] Rosie Gray: yes... egads 10 prims for that flag!
[19:17] Rosie Gray: that's just bad building
[19:17] Tor Karlsvalt: i like a flag, but that is a dated one, and flaps too much.
[19:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ya- you really just need 3...
[19:17] Rose Springvale: hi, sorry i'm so late
[19:17] Rosie Gray: hello Rose
[19:18] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[19:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hello Rose :)
[19:18] Rose Springvale: you are not rezzed yet :)
[19:18] Lilith Ivory: hehe talking about this flag might be out of topic also :)
[19:18] Tor Karlsvalt: hi Rose
[19:18] Rose Springvale: smiles, Justice right?
[19:18] Rosie Gray: you're right Lilith
[19:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: True, haha
[19:18] Tor Karlsvalt: did i miss compline
[19:18] Lilith Ivory: right
[19:18] Rose Springvale: didn't see a note Tro
[19:18] Rose Springvale: Tor
[19:18] Lilith Ivory: and not even caretaker me can move it on the ground
[19:18] Tor Karlsvalt: nor did I
[19:18] Rose Springvale: the ones at the amphitheater are wropng too
[19:18] Rosie Gray: oh jeez
[19:18] Rose Springvale: you can return it
[19:19] Guillaume Mistwalker: There are alot of wrong flags...
[19:19] Rose Springvale: put up new ones :)
[19:19] Rosie Gray: if I make a new flag with pole
[19:19] Rosie Gray: can I give it to someone to replace these awful ones?
[19:19] Lilith Ivory: yup, but should I?
[19:19] Guillaume Mistwalker: I think I will make a new flag pole..
[19:19] Rosie Gray: or does that require a Royal Commission?
[19:19] Lilith Ivory: idk and am careful at the moment
[19:19] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:19] Rose Springvale: well, i asked both brian and justice to do it several times, and sent out free flags lol
[19:19] Tor Karlsvalt: well Lil, probably nobody would notice
[19:19] Rose Springvale: smiles
[19:19] Rose Springvale: i'm not afraid
[19:19] Rose Springvale: i'll return them
[19:19] Guillaume Mistwalker: True
[19:19] Tor Karlsvalt: i say return it
[19:19] Rosie Gray: yay!
[19:20] Rosie Gray: way to go Rose!
[19:20] Tor Karlsvalt: it is the wrong flag anyway
[19:20] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes
[19:20] Lilith Ivory: let me give you the summary of the first meeting
[19:20] Guillaume Mistwalker: Now...
[19:20] Rose Springvale accepted your inventory offer.
[19:20] Lilith Ivory: and remind you I´m going to post our meeting :)
[19:20] Rosie Gray: :D
[19:20] Guillaume Mistwalker: I think that a weekly "farmer's market" would be good
[19:20] Rosie Gray: me too
[19:20] Lilith Ivory: think so also
[19:20] Tor Karlsvalt: poof
[19:20] Guillaume Mistwalker: we can have musicians there too
[19:20] Rosie Gray: how do you envision it working?
[19:21] Rosie Gray: some little carts, and all CDS merchants get one?
[19:21] Rosie Gray: and a prim allotment?
[19:21] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes, I think so.
[19:21] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:21] Rose Springvale: there, now CDS people should be able to move, mod, etc lol
[19:21] Guillaume Mistwalker: Carts provided, buteach merchant get s a prim allowance
[19:21] Rosie Gray: and you have to spend at least 1 hour there, physically.... errr... well your avi
[19:22] Lilith Ivory smiles at Rose
[19:22] Tor Karlsvalt: Rosie that is good
[19:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: An hour? What for?
[19:22] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[19:22] Tor Karlsvalt: Some of us need to invest time
[19:22] Rosie Gray: to create traffic
[19:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: That is true...
[19:22] Rosie Gray: to play the merchant
[19:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: How bout this...
[19:23] Rosie Gray: if you want to have it, it's got to be more than just putting a few prims out
[19:23] Tor Karlsvalt: And Rose has the pole on the ground too
[19:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: Market opens after meetings/commissions, lasts for a week in their respective sims and move in rotation
[19:23] Rose Springvale: one thing you need to make sure is that people have a prim limit, and use boxes
[19:23] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[19:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes
[19:23] Rose Springvale: that sounds ... dirty lol
[19:23] Tor Karlsvalt: that sounds good
[19:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: Boxes, carts provided
[19:23] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:23] Rosie Gray: yep
[19:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: Merchants get 5 prims
[19:24] Rosie Gray: a specific footprint you have to keep to
[19:24] Rose Springvale: we usually gave 10 for the markets we did ... and set up stalls/tables
[19:24] Rosie Gray: so that one merchant doesn't take more space than another
[19:24] Guillaume Mistwalker: or 3 even, but 5+ is... pushing it...
[19:24] Rose Springvale: where is this going to be?
[19:24] Rosie Gray: 10 is better
[19:24] Rosie Gray: can't do much with less
[19:24] Rose Springvale: docks?
[19:24] Guillaume Mistwalker: It will be a moving thng
[19:24] Lilith Ivory: we might need a market officer
[19:24] Lilith Ivory: lol
[19:24] Rose Springvale: smiles
[19:24] Guillaume Mistwalker: A moving Market
[19:24] Rosie Gray grins
[19:25] Rose Springvale: what i always did was set up the tables, limited to 10 prims and let them be first come first serve
[19:25] Tor Karlsvalt: the plaz, forum, here
[19:25] Guillaume Mistwalker: It will help show off this sims, while boosting traffic and economy
[19:25] Rose Springvale: we tried flea markets on the docks ... but didn't get much interest
[19:25] Lilith Ivory: yea
[19:25] Rosie Gray: well I think it should be free for CDS merchants, but with the requirement that you stay there and socialize for at least 1 hour
[19:25] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes
[19:25] Guillaume Mistwalker: And RA members should be encouragd to come
[19:25] Lilith Ivory: camping pats for merchants lol
[19:26] Rose Springvale: we've never charged...
[19:26] Rose Springvale: hehe
[19:26] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:26] Rosie Gray: ah good :-)
[19:26] Lilith Ivory: we might advertise it in search
[19:26] Rose Springvale: is the purpose to increase sales?
[19:26] Rosie Gray: I don't see it as being all that beneficial unless you get people staying there though
[19:26] Rose Springvale: or show off sims?
[19:26] Rosie Gray: both!
[19:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: Both
[19:26] Tor Karlsvalt: btw Rose, Gui will consider running for RA.
[19:26] Guillaume Mistwalker waves
[19:26] Rose Springvale: smiles
[19:26] Lilith Ivory: this commision is for increase sales I think
[19:26] Rosie Gray smiles at Guillaume
[19:27] Rose Springvale: okay
[19:27] Lilith Ivory: but it would serve both
[19:27] Rosie Gray: sure, but it can still benefit both purposes
[19:27] Rose Springvale: was going to say our auctions always got lots of traffic too
[19:27] Guillaume Mistwalker: Well, if we help both merchants and traffic, both will increase sales, I think
[19:27] Lilith Ivory: if we get interest in the Sims we have more customers also
[19:27] Tor Karlsvalt: when did you buy your fachwerk, Gui?
[19:27] Rosie Gray: yes I agree Guil
[19:27] Lilith Ivory: right
[19:27] Tor Karlsvalt: nice
[19:27] Guillaume Mistwalker: My ... fachwerk?
[19:28] Tor Karlsvalt: you parcel in NFS
[19:28] Rosie Gray: your shop
[19:28] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ah, sorry, last month...
[19:28] Tor Karlsvalt: ok great
[19:28] Lilith Ivory: that´s the ones for Xmas merket right?
[19:28] Rose Springvale: sorry
[19:28] Guillaume Mistwalker: June, I do believe, maybe July
[19:28] Rose Springvale: yes, lookint for the fall ones
[19:28] Lilith Ivory: oh I see
[19:28] Rosie Gray: those are really... errr... well
[19:28] Rosie Gray: not very well made
[19:28] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:28] Rose Springvale: be nice
[19:28] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:28] Rose Springvale: i made them lol
[19:28] Rosie Gray: oh
[19:28] Rosie Gray blushes
[19:29] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hehe...
[19:29] Rosie Gray: well the main problem is the shelf
[19:29] Rose Springvale: moon did the roofs, but the ones she made were too big and sculpty
[19:29] Rosie Gray: it's too thin
[19:29] Guillaume Mistwalker: Isn't that...
[19:29] Guillaume Mistwalker: The Bravarian flag?
[19:29] Lilith Ivory: yup
[19:29] Lilith Ivory: they´re made ffor NFS
[19:29] Guillaume Mistwalker is not an ignorant American...
[19:29] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:29] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:29] Rose Springvale: that was kendras
[19:30] Rosie Gray: oh a selection
[19:30] Rosie Gray: hey, now that would make it a bit more interesting
[19:30] Rose Springvale: oh i remember, moons is a group
[19:30] Rosie Gray: if there were a choice of say 3 stalls
[19:30] Lilith Ivory: kendras is kinda huge and hard to place items there
[19:30] Lilith Ivory: Hiya Sonja :)
[19:30] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hello Sonja :)
[19:30] Rose Springvale: here
[19:30] Rosie Gray: hi Sonja
[19:30] Tor Karlsvalt: hi Sonja
[19:30] Sonja Strom: Hi everybody :)
[19:30] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[19:30] Lilith Ivory: let me give you the summary of our first meeting
[19:31] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like that stalll
[19:31] Tor Karlsvalt: that one is nice
[19:31] Lilith Ivory: and remind you that I´m going to post the transcripüt on the forum
[19:31] Rose Springvale: see, too big, too sculpty
[19:31] Rosie Gray nods
[19:31] Sonja Strom accepted your inventory offer.
[19:31] Guillaume Mistwalker: But... I think we can go with smaller...
[19:31] Rosie Gray: yes smaller would be okay
[19:31] Guillaume Mistwalker: And, maybe, a cart-feel
[19:32] Rose Springvale: smiles, but its three prims :_
[19:32] Guillaume Mistwalker: It would go with the travelling market feel
[19:32] Rosie Gray: and there should be some decorations too
[19:32] Tor Karlsvalt: well if we have vacant land we can use that as a market
[19:32] Rosie Gray: banners and balloons or something
[19:32] Rose Springvale: people decorated their own Rosie
[19:32] Guillaume Mistwalker nods at Rosia
[19:32] Guillaume Mistwalker: *Rosie
[19:32] Tor Karlsvalt: or just line them up along the road
[19:32] Lilith Ivory: prims might be a problem
[19:32] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes!
[19:32] Rosie Gray: oh I meant the whole area
[19:32] Guillaume Mistwalker: Road!
[19:32] Rosie Gray: not the stalls
[19:32] Rose Springvale: the decor had to come out of the 10 prims
[19:32] Rosie Gray: like an entranceway, with a sign
[19:32] Rose Springvale: NFS has prim issues
[19:33] Rose Springvale: smiels
[19:33] Guillaume Mistwalker: Along the roads between AA and CN
[19:33] Rosie Gray: oh yes I know Rose, all sims do!
[19:33] Guillaume Mistwalker: lol, Rosie...
[19:33] Rose Springvale: smiles
[19:33] Tor Karlsvalt: that would be a good place for a market gui
[19:33] Rose Springvale: did any of you go to the Orange Fair
[19:33] Guillaume Mistwalker: Maybe, even, a permanent market stall area..
[19:33] Tor Karlsvalt: No
[19:34] Rosie Gray: no
[19:34] Guillaume Mistwalker: I'm afraid not, what was it?
[19:34] Sonja Strom: yes, I did
[19:34] Lilith Ivory: where was it?
[19:34] Rose Springvale: you did din't you lilith?
[19:34] Rosie Gray: what kind of fair is it?
[19:34] Tor Karlsvalt: oh geee
[19:34] Lilith Ivory: when was it?
[19:34] Rose Springvale: well, the netherlands queens day
[19:34] Rose Springvale: hold on, looking for that one
[19:34] Lilith Ivory: ooh no
[19:34] Tor Karlsvalt: whew
[19:34] Tor Karlsvalt: no
[19:34] Sonja Strom: Lilith, I bought some second hand clothes from you there :)
[19:34] Tor Karlsvalt: would have liked that
[19:34] Guillaume Mistwalker will be right back.
[19:35] Rosie Gray: second hand clothes!
[19:35] Lilith Ivory: oh you´re talking about last year :)
[19:35] Rose Springvale: april 30
[19:35] Rosie Gray is amazed
[19:35] Satir DeCuir is Online
[19:35] Rosie Gray: oh last year!
[19:35] Lilith Ivory: I was worried I´d have missed a fair this year :)
[19:35] Tor Karlsvalt: April 09, before my time
[19:35] Rose Springvale: i bought that cart too, but i can't find what they are called
[19:35] Tor Karlsvalt: Was sure it was a trick question
[19:35] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:36] Sonja Strom: Be careful how you answer, Tor :-)
[19:36] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:36] Sonja Strom: hahaa
[19:37] Tor Karlsvalt: we really neeto advertise fairs on other sims in exchange for us advertsing on their sims.
[19:37] Tor Karlsvalt: cross-polination
[19:37] Lilith Ivory: right
[19:37] Cindy Ecksol is Online
[19:37] Guillaume Mistwalker is back..
[19:37] Tor Karlsvalt: have more of those multi-sim fairs.
[19:37] Tor Karlsvalt: hey water
[19:38] Tor Karlsvalt: and birds
[19:38] Lilith Ivory: I always have CDS advertisements on my mainland property :)
[19:38] Rosie Gray grins
[19:38] Tor Karlsvalt: so do i lil
[19:38] Lilith Ivory: hiya Cindy :)
[19:38] Guillaume Mistwalker: Haha, I have those same flowers, Rosie..
[19:38] Rosie Gray: hi Cindy
[19:38] Sonja Strom: hi Cindy
[19:38] Tor Karlsvalt: if fact we should make a point of our adds being copy so e can advertise on our other parcles.
[19:38] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hello, Cindy :)
[19:39] Tor Karlsvalt: Rose I lke that stall
[19:39] Cindy Ecksol: hi all!
[19:39] Rose Springvale: not the orane one, but
[19:39] Cindy Ecksol: wow, it's noisy here!
[19:39] Tor Karlsvalt: really fits the idea of a moving market
[19:39] Jayme Mistwalker is Online
[19:39] Rose Springvale: 14 prims tor, that's why we didn't use it
[19:39] Rosie Gray: haha... well it was deadly quiet before Cindy
[19:39] Lilith Ivory: it´s lovely
[19:39] Rosie Gray: was driving me crazy
[19:39] Tor Karlsvalt: oh
[19:39] Lilith Ivory: what about temp rez?
[19:39] Tor Karlsvalt smiles at the noise
[19:39] Rose Springvale: lag
[19:39] Rose Springvale: temp rez is murder on a sim
[19:40] Lilith Ivory: oh I see
[19:40] Rosie Gray: what about just allocating a space amount, and some prims
[19:40] Lilith Ivory: hoped it had become better over the years
[19:40] Rosie Gray: and leaving it up to the vendors how they do it?
[19:40] Rose Springvale: could look messy
[19:40] Rosie Gray: could also look interesting
[19:40] Rose Springvale: especially for sims with covenants. People get mad
[19:40] Lilith Ivory: I WILL look messy
[19:40] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm...
[19:40] Rosie Gray: could make 1 requirement
[19:40] Rosie Gray: like say, the colour theme
[19:40] Tor Karlsvalt: we could take one of these vacant lots and just make it a market/fair ground.
[19:41] Rose Springvale: how long do you anticipate leavign it up?
[19:41] Lilith Ivory: shouldn´t it be possible to make nice low prim stalls?
[19:41] Tor Karlsvalt: a week
[19:41] Rose Springvale: well, moon did 3 prims :)
[19:41] Tor Karlsvalt: then it would move to another sim
[19:41] Rose Springvale: if you decide to do it, i'd recommend keeping to commercial areas, Residential people won't appreciate it
[19:42] Rosie Gray: yes I agree KRose
[19:42] Rose Springvale: platz, forum, docks, harbor
[19:42] Lilith Ivory: and we also do it to bring people to the shops
[19:42] Guillaume Mistwalker: If I may add on the market idea, if we were to spruce up the region the market was in and make it less frequent, with proper advertizing, we could possibly increase traffic. And, by sprucing up, I mean ballons, banners, etc
[19:42] Rose Springvale: or take over the amphitheater
[19:42] Rosie Gray: yes exactly Lilith
[19:42] Lilith Ivory: music
[19:42] Rosie Gray: I agree with that Guil
[19:42] Rose Springvale: just remember you have theme restrictions in all sims
[19:42] Lilith Ivory: a market combined with a hunt
[19:42] Rosie Gray: doesn't have to be a lot
[19:43] Rose Springvale: which we know people take seriously
[19:43] Guillaume Mistwalker: Once or twice a month; and yes, Rose
[19:43] Lilith Ivory: so people HAVE to look at the stalls
[19:43] Lilith Ivory: lol
[19:43] Rosie Gray: yes, but that would be easy to do Rose
[19:43] Rosie Gray: and would make it interesting
[19:43] Rose Springvale: oh, sorry guys, need to run :(
[19:43] Rose Springvale: look forward to the reports :)
[19:43] Tor Karlsvalt: ok Rose bye
[19:43] Lilith Ivory: see you Rose
[19:43] Guillaume Mistwalker: Aw, ok
[19:43] Sonja Strom: bye Rose
[19:43] Rosie Gray: ah!
[19:43] Guillaume Mistwalker: Bye rose :)
[19:43] Lilith Ivory: thanks for coming :)
[19:43] Rosie Gray: bye then
[19:43] Rosie Gray: thanks for fixing the flag!
[19:43] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ya!
[19:43] Rose Springvale: (i'll try to come back, but my time isn't mine these days!)
[19:43] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:43] Guillaume Mistwalker: Thanks for fixing it :)
[19:44] Tor Karlsvalt: yes thanks for he flags
[19:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: I think I will be really free now, seeing as I just dropped a big time-consuming project of mine
[19:44] Rosie Gray: I have to say that I find it frustrating to meet in places where I can't rez a prim
[19:44] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:45] Tor Karlsvalt: yes sonja, mabye citizens can have rez rights
[19:45] Sonja Strom: sure
[19:45] Sonja Strom: why not?
[19:45] Rosie Gray: surely it would be easy enough to set the public places so that members could rez?
[19:45] Lilith Ivory: I could check them once a week ant return litter
[19:45] Guillaume Mistwalker: another privilege of being a citizen
[19:45] Rosie Gray: but then there would need to be clean-up crews too
[19:45] Tor Karlsvalt: that would be great
[19:45] Guillaume Mistwalker: I could go around too
[19:45] Sonja Strom: well, Rosie, that would not be as easy as it sounds
[19:45] Tor Karlsvalt: the Public Works Cadre
[19:46] Rosie Gray: yes :-)
[19:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: since I'll be much more free, I'll be able to
[19:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes, a Public Works group
[19:46] Sonja Strom: because the public land is not owned by the CDS group, but by other groups...
[19:46] Rosie Gray: oh hmmm
[19:46] Sonja Strom: but we could simply allow everyone to rezz
[19:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm...
[19:46] Sonja Strom: that would work.
[19:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: Might turn out badly...
[19:46] Tor Karlsvalt: i say do it
[19:46] Rosie Gray: are all the prims that are in the public places set to the group that own them?
[19:46] Tor Karlsvalt: would be that bad
[19:46] Sonja Strom: no Rosie
[19:47] Rosie Gray: ah
[19:47] Rosie Gray: then I see the problem
[19:47] Rosie Gray: hmmmm
[19:47] Rosie Gray: it kind of makes public places... well not very public friendly
[19:47] Sonja Strom: it would be similar if the land was in the CDS group, because anyone can join it.
[19:48] Rosie Gray: hmmmm
[19:48] Lilith Ivory: ty for friendship Gui :)
[19:48] Rosie Gray: then there should be either restricted mkembership, or another group (sigh) where you can actually do something
[19:48] Rosie Gray: oh dear I'm sorry
[19:48] Tor Karlsvalt: but can't you asign different abilities to different titles
[19:48] Rosie Gray: I shouldn't get onto this stuff
[19:48] Guillaume Mistwalker: No problem :)
[19:48] Sonja Strom: there are different types of status within the CDS group,
[19:48] Rosie Gray: oh you're right Tor
[19:48] Rosie Gray: of course
[19:49] Sonja Strom: but I don't think there is a way to allow only one type of status the ability to rezz on the group-owned land.
[19:49] Rosie Gray: yes I think there is
[19:49] Tor Karlsvalt: so CDS Gov or Citizen should be able to rez
[19:49] Sonja Strom: hm, interesting
[19:49] Sonja Strom: maybe you can let us know how to do that,
[19:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: I'll be rightback, I'm going to get ready for bed and for practice..
[19:50] Rosie Gray: okay Guil
[19:50] Sonja Strom: and then the community can decide if it wants to do it.
[19:50] Tor Karlsvalt: ok gui
[19:50] Sonja Strom: We would have to change the ownership of all of the public land.
[19:50] Tor Karlsvalt: oh
[19:50] Rosie Gray: oh hmmm
[19:50] Sonja Strom: But, it could be done :-)
[19:50] Lilith Ivory: and we might get a problem with litter
[19:50] Rosie Gray: well, personally I think it would make it a nicer place
[19:51] Lilith Ivory: not every citizen cleans up behind him
[19:51] Tor Karlsvalt: you meen to the land landverfaultung or something.
[19:51] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:51] Rosie Gray: yes, would need to have clean-up crews
[19:51] Tor Karlsvalt: well that isn't a problem
[19:51] Lilith Ivory: I´m used to do that but it´s hard to find the prims sometimes
[19:51] Rosie Gray: yes it is, I agree Lilith
[19:51] Rosie Gray: especially if they've escaped into the stratosphere
[19:51] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, i am pretty good at finding prim
[19:52] Lilith Ivory: me also but I don´t think I find them all
[19:52] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:52] Lilith Ivory: talking about lost earrings hehe
[19:52] Sonja Strom: oh, yes :)
[19:52] Rosie Gray: but the person who has estate manager rights can also keep an eye on it
[19:52] Tor Karlsvalt: found a dying chicken a few months ago
[19:52] Rosie Gray: lol!
[19:52] Lilith Ivory: ooh wow
[19:52] Sonja Strom: oh!
[19:53] Lilith Ivory: I found an airplane lately
[19:53] Lilith Ivory: but it wans´t small
[19:53] Tor Karlsvalt: wow lil
[19:53] Sonja Strom: Rosie, estate manager rights don't make it really easy...
[19:53] Tor Karlsvalt: that is a find
[19:53] Rosie Gray: well, they make it possible
[19:53] Lilith Ivory: yea hehe
[19:53] Sonja Strom: one can see how many prims are owned by whom,
[19:53] Rosie Gray: yep
[19:53] Sonja Strom: but it is nearly impossible to know which prims they are
[19:53] Lilith Ivory: but you never know if it is litter or an important building
[19:53] Sonja Strom: exactly
[19:54] Sonja Strom: or an important piece of art within a building
[19:54] Lilith Ivory: I´m very careful with returning prims from residents
[19:54] Rosie Gray: hmmm yes, I forget how this place has evolved
[19:54] Sonja Strom: me too
[19:54] Sonja Strom: I am very careful returning prims at all...
[19:54] Sonja Strom: yes, sometimes the avatars are long gone.
[19:54] Lilith Ivory: I do return prims from people who are not in a CDS group
[19:55] Tor Karlsvalt: oh yes
[19:55] Rosie Gray: it would be so much easier if all the public prims were set to the proper group
[19:55] Sonja Strom: if it gets returned...
[19:55] Tor Karlsvalt: found lots of stuff like that
[19:55] Sonja Strom: it might never come back again if you want it.
[19:55] Lilith Ivory: right
[19:55] Lilith Ivory: I also check when the prim was placed
[19:55] Sonja Strom: Rosie, I agree with you there.
[19:55] Rosie Gray recalls the time she sent everything back on a sim, and learned a big lesson
[19:56] Tor Karlsvalt: ouch
[19:56] Sonja Strom: uh oh! ...
[19:56] Rosie Gray: lol
[19:56] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:56] Tor Karlsvalt: i did that on my parcel and that was trouble
[19:56] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
[19:56] Lilith Ivory: ooh I see
[19:56] Sonja Strom: I did that with my house once...
[19:56] Sonja Strom: uf!
[19:56] Rosie Gray: I did it on an entire sim, but actually it worked out well in the end
[19:56] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:56] Tor Karlsvalt: why?
[19:56] Rosie Gray: because there was a LOT of abandoned junk
[19:57] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:57] Sonja Strom: luckily it went into my own inventory.
[19:57] Rosie Gray: that nobody knew was there
[19:57] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:57] Tor Karlsvalt: well we want ot rebuild nfs anyway
[19:57] Tor Karlsvalt: give rosie rights
[19:57] Rosie Gray: hahah
[19:57] Rosie Gray: oh I learned my lesson KTor!
[19:57] Sonja Strom: oh yeah, I have done it with Lilith's things a couple of times too
[19:57] Lilith Ivory: do you want to have an earthquake named after you?
[19:57] Lilith Ivory: lol
[19:57] Sonja Strom blushes
[19:57] Lilith Ivory: hehe yes
[19:57] Rosie Gray: hehe
[19:58] Sonja Strom: :-|
[19:58] Lilith Ivory smiles and remembers
[19:58] Sonja Strom: conveniently I had forgotten to bring that up...
[19:58] Lilith Ivory smiles
[19:58] Lilith Ivory: at least it made you bring Diane back
[19:58] Lilith Ivory: so it was fgood for something
[19:58] Sonja Strom: I think she forgave me
[19:59] Sonja Strom: hahaaa!
[19:59] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[19:59] Sonja Strom: right!!
[19:59] Lilith Ivory: sure and I´d replace the house anytime
[19:59] Sonja Strom: yes! without complaining
[19:59] Lilith Ivory: yup
[19:59] Lilith Ivory: and I own the whole collection now
[19:59] Sonja Strom: me too!
[19:59] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[19:59] Rosie Gray laughs
[19:59] Rosie Gray: :D
[19:59] Tor Karlsvalt: i bought them too
[19:59] Sonja Strom: I dont' want to go through that again
[20:00] Lilith Ivory: yes right
[20:00] Tor Karlsvalt: but Rosie can build some nice fachwerk
[20:00] Lilith Ivory: and those houses are quite pretty
[20:00] Sonja Strom: yes
[20:00] Lilith Ivory: do you have them in your shop?
[20:00] Sonja Strom: that would be fun, Rosie
[20:00] Rosie Gray: sorry I am not sure what you mean?
[20:00] Tor Karlsvalt: she build new ones for her shop and her house
[20:01] Rosie Gray: oh my buildings
[20:01] Rosie Gray: my shop is for sale
[20:01] Sonja Strom: I was referring to "[20:00] Tor Karlsvalt: but Rosie can build some nice fachwerk"
[20:01] Tor Karlsvalt: you build your shop and house, right Rosie?
[20:01] Rosie Gray: yes
[20:01] Rosie Gray: thank you Tor
[20:01] Rosie Gray blushes
[20:02] Tor Karlsvalt: we have all this new talent
[20:02] Tor Karlsvalt: i bet we could make an expanded NFS really something
[20:02] Rosie Gray: oh yes I bet we could!
[20:02] Rosie Gray: would be so much fun
[20:03] Tor Karlsvalt: anyone up for a monument celebratingour vicoryies over Caledon?
[20:03] Rosie Gray: however, I think the current NFS is still a great place to be.. it just needs some TLC
[20:03] Tor Karlsvalt: i agree Rosie
[20:03] Tor Karlsvalt: i fell in love with this place when I saw it.
[20:04] Sonja Strom: victories over Caledon?
[20:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: As did I...
[20:04] Rosie Gray: and not disregarding all the work everyone has done on it
[20:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: Definitely, Sonja
[20:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: and back
[20:04] Tor Karlsvalt: oh it was a post on the forum sonja, by Desmond
[20:04] Rosie Gray: is there some kind of rivalry?
[20:04] Tor Karlsvalt: her told of his two wars with CDS

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