Sept 24, 2018 RA Transcript

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Sept 24, 2018 RA Transcript

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[12:10] Tanoujin Milestone: alright, I call this meeting to order
[12:10] Tanoujin Milestone: thanks for coming
[12:10] Tanoujin Milestone: because the Archivist isn't here i will keep the transcript
[12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: we come to Administrative business
[12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: Agenda is in the box if you have not seen it yet
[12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: i messed up the numeration, sorry for that
[12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: ;)
[12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: are we ready to approve the agenda?
[12:11] Lyubov (20180414): yes
[12:11] Laura Azalee: yes
[12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: can I have a motion?
[12:12] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Hi! ^-^
[12:12] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Kyoko !
[12:12] Laura Azalee: so move
[12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: Hi Kyoko!
[12:12] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): cheers!
[12:12] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): hi Kyoko
[12:12] Lilith Ivory: Hi Kyoko
[12:12] Laura Azalee: hi Kyoko
[12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: can I have a second?
[12:13] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): yes
[12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: motion to approve agenda on the floor
[12:13] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[12:13] Lyubov (20180414): aye
[12:13] Laura Azalee: I can't second... I moved LOL
[12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: Kiki, seconded.thats my interpretation ;)
[12:13] Laura Azalee: lol ok
[12:13] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): indeed
[12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: nice
[12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: so vote please ;)
[12:14] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[12:14] Laura Azalee: aye
[12:14] Lyubov (20180414): aye
[12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you, motion carries
[12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: same procedure with the minutes
[12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: did you find the time to read them?
[12:15] Tanoujin Milestone: anyone in need of a link?
[12:15] Lyubov (20180414): yes, all good here
[12:15] Laura Azalee: yes fine
[12:15] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): I need a link
[12:15] Tanoujin Milestone: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8633
[12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: take your time to have a look on it and tell us when done, Kiki
[12:17] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): The agenda giver ...isn't
[12:18] Lyubov (20180414): i had to edit-open
[12:18] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Thanks
[12:18] Tanoujin Milestone: maybe the script is foul
[12:18] Tanoujin Milestone: i admit i did not test it
[12:18] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): I think so. It might be better after a reboot
[12:18] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): I'll try it later
[12:19] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you han :)
[12:19] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): ❤
[12:19] Lilith Ivory: doesn´t work for me either
[12:19] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): it doesnt give me anything, says no post
[12:19] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): by the weay, my internet very slow
[12:19] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): I might even crash
[12:19] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): I haz agenda from notice
[12:19] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): should I just pass it around?
[12:19] Lyubov (20180414): good Kyoko :)
[12:19] Tanoujin Milestone: î will give you a link as a workaround
[12:20] Laura Azalee: no thanks I have it
[12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: OKAY
[12:20] Lyubov (20180414): i think we all have the agenda :)
[12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: ups, sorry
[12:20] Lyubov (20180414): minutes good?
[12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: so, Kiki, are you through it?
[12:20] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): no cvause I did nt get it
[12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: the link I gave you did not work?
[12:21] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): the link gives me the forum where it says there is no post
[12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: hm
[12:21] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): I have the agendaa, but cant read the minutes
[12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, trying to find a solution
[12:22] Tanoujin Milestone: maybe post it in chat?
[12:22] Lilith Ivory: are you logged into the forum Kiki?
[12:22] Laura Azalee: or copy paste in a NC
[12:22] Lilith Ivory: but posting it here might be helpful :)
[12:22] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, okay
[12:23] Lyubov (20180414): sending a notecard
[12:23] Tanoujin Milestone: are you Lyubov?
[12:23] Tanoujin Milestone: that's very helpful, thank you
[12:23] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): no and I canbt log in either
[12:23] Lyubov (20180414): yes
[12:23] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): slow connection tonight
[12:23] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory nods
[12:23] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): trying hard not to crash saorry
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: np, Lyubov will give you a notecard with the minutes
[12:24] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): ah Lyubov gave them, sec
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: all good
[12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: meanwhile I found a post of Rosie under the Agenda that she wants a seven day vote
[12:25] Laura Azalee: ah ok
[12:25] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): done
[12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: so, we have to take that into account...
[12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: cool. are we ready to approve the minutes?
[12:25] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): what is a seven day vote?
[12:26] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Rosie has seven days to read the measures and give her vote on each one
[12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: she can cast her vote within 7 days on the forum
[12:26] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): ah ok
[12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: if we have a draw we have to wait until she voted
[12:26] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): ok
[12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: motion to approve the minutes?
[12:26] Laura Azalee: moved
[12:27] Lyubov (20180414): second
[12:27] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): second
[12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: vote :)
[12:27] Lyubov (20180414): aye
[12:27] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[12:27] Laura Azalee: aye
[12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: motion carries
[12:28] Tanoujin Milestone: so, a quick reminder to the Archivist to update CDSL 21-05 on the portal....
[12:28] Tanoujin Milestone: and we come to the executive report.Han, you have the floor
[12:28] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Hi! ^-^
[12:28] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): I don't think there's a lot to report, but a quick recap;
[12:29] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): The SL Newser campaign has been paid for this term
[12:29] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): I have done some reaching out about building community, apart from that the advertising comittee idea is still in Limbo
[12:29] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): stuff's going on with the LUC; but I believe that's y'alls domain
[12:29] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): and events, I'll let our PIO officer cover events and Oktoberfest if she doesn't mind
[12:30] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): When she's done I'll take questions
[12:30] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): go for it, Kyoko
[12:30] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): Thanks Chancellor ;)
[12:30] Tanoujin MilestoneTanoujin Milestone nods
[12:30] Tanoujin Milestone: Kyoko?
[12:31] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): Well the plans for Oktoberfest will be announced as soon as I confirm one last piece.But briefly, Fri Oct 12 we have a pub crawl DJed by a very own Chancellor
[12:31] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): Sat. Oct 13 we have a performance by Jaynine Scarborough and a yet as undetermined local event.
[12:32] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): Sun Oct 14. Party on the Platz
[12:32] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): The oompah guy doesn't dj in SL anymore so we engaged Gabrielle Riel
[12:32] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): done
[12:32] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Thanks Kyoko ❤
[12:32] Lilith Ivory: yay to Jaynine and Gabi
[12:33] Tanoujin Milestone: Questions to the Chancellor?
[12:33] Lyubov (20180414): i saw a forum post about long term rent discounts. is this the time to disuss?
[12:33] Tanoujin Milestone: I hear none
[12:34] Tanoujin Milestone: okay :)
[12:34] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): I'd just like to remind everyone
[12:34] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): that I can be reached at any time at my YAHOO email; [email protected]
[12:34] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): (NOT my gmail, if you even find that :p)
[12:34] Laura Azalee: ah good to know
[12:34] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): That's the most reliable way to reach me.
[12:35] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): So, I'm done if no one has quesitons.
[12:35] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held)Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held) 's chancellorship for a spellcheck :P~~~~
[12:35] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): :P~~~~
[12:35] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): tldr; done.
[12:35] Tanoujin Milestone: I think the long term rent is a forums topic, but of course, if ou have a question concerning it, Lyubov, or a comment, go agead
[12:35] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you Han
[12:35] Lyubov (20180414): we can keep it to the forum, then
[12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: sorry, my y is broken :P
[12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: okay... Report on the LUC
[12:36] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): As I said there, I've tabled that motion; it would have a negative economic impact on the estate. Esp when (not IF) the prices change
[12:36] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): and everyone I talked to reacted negatively to it...sorry, Tan; go on.
[12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you
[12:37] Tanoujin Milestone: i have something to report... there will be a LUC meeting on sept 29 , at noon
[12:37] Tanoujin Milestone: in the lower chambers of the praetorium
[12:37] Lilith Ivory: will there be a group note so interested citizens can attend?
[12:38] Tanoujin Milestone: i think Rosie is organizing that
[12:38] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory smiles and nods
[12:38] Tanoujin Milestone: hm, btw, the LUC meetings are public, arn't they?
[12:38] Lilith Ivory: yes and that´s why I was asking :)
[12:38] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): (as far as I know?)
[12:39] Lilith Ivory: in the past I sometimes had a hard time to learn when and where the LUC met
[12:39] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): I've crashed them as a citizen
[12:39] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, i believe that as well - thanks for the hint, Lilith, I will take care a note is going out if Rosie is not available
[12:39] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): I won't be able to attend, I have to go to RL birthdayparty that evening.
[12:39] Lilith Ivory: I do not only believe those meetings are public - I KNOW it :)
[12:39] Tanoujin Milestone: there will be a transcript
[12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: even better, Madame Dean, I did never doubt it ;)
[12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: lol
[12:40] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory smiles
[12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: anthing else concerning the LUC
[12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: ?
[12:40] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Kyoko?
[12:40] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): I'm good
[12:41] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): me too ❤
[12:41] Tanoujin Milestone: fine, we come to Citizen concerns
[12:41] Tanoujin Milestone: are there any?
[12:41] Laura Azalee: not that ik know of
[12:42] Tanoujin Milestone: I hear nothing... :)
[12:42] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): no
[12:42] Tanoujin Milestone: so wwe come to RA member concerns
[12:42] Tanoujin Milestone: anyone?
[12:42] Laura Azalee: not me
[12:42] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): not me
[12:42] Tanoujin Milestone: I have a little something
[12:43] Tanoujin Milestone: we tabled the Rentals versus parcel ownership topic until further notice
[12:43] Lyubov (20180414): ok, i would agree with that Tan
[12:43] Tanoujin Milestone: Sudane has posted on the forums http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... sue#p47539
[12:44] Tanoujin Milestone: covering the question what the advantages might be (we could not find any)
[12:44] Tanoujin Milestone: for renting that is
[12:44] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): can I have a little time to read that?
[12:44] Tanoujin Milestone: i invite you to take a look and ddiscuss there a bit
[12:44] Tanoujin Milestone: not now, Kiki
[12:44] Tanoujin Milestone: it is just my concern it gets ignored at all, and that would be a shame
[12:45] Tanoujin Milestone: done
[12:45] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): ok
[12:45] Tanoujin Milestone: ready for old Business?
[12:45] Laura Azalee: yes
[12:45] Tanoujin Milestone: fine
[12:45] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): yes
[12:45] Tanoujin Milestone: Providing Information for potential owners of the densified houses
[12:46] Tanoujin Milestone: may I say something to that in advance?
[12:46] Laura Azalee: pls go ahead
[12:46] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you
[12:46] Tanoujin Milestone: I remember we asked Lyubov to get in touch with Sudane, and she posted to that topic as well
[12:47] Lyubov (20180414): yes, i did speak with sudane and she wrote the forum post in response
[12:47] Tanoujin Milestone: it is called densification issue 1
[12:47] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, thank you very much for that, Lyubov
[12:47] Tanoujin Milestone: I believe the post is a great start
[12:47] Tanoujin Milestone: and some people already contributed to make it even better
[12:48] Tanoujin Milestone: so, i would say that is a topic for the LUC. what do you think?
[12:48] Tanoujin Milestone: we are not here to write executive manuals
[12:48] Tanoujin Milestone: done
[12:48] Lyubov (20180414): i think that would be appropriate
[12:48] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb)Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb) nods
[12:48] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory nods in agreement
[12:48] Laura Azalee: yes I agree too
[12:49] Tanoujin Milestone: fine. So i would ask you to move to inform the LUC at its initial meeting they have to finish this
[12:49] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane)恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane) giggles
[12:49] Tanoujin Milestone: ;)
[12:50] Tanoujin Milestone: oh, well to simplyfy that a bit I move myself to hand it to the LUC
[12:50] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): second
[12:50] Tanoujin Milestone: cool, ty, vote please
[12:50] Laura Azalee: aye
[12:50] Lyubov (20180414): aye
[12:50] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[12:51] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:51] Tanoujin Milestone: motion carries
[12:51] Tanoujin Milestone: i will take up the responsibility to infform the LUC
[12:51] Tanoujin Milestone: nexr Item
[12:51] Tanoujin Milestone: Fixed prefabs or possibility to replace with owner’s content (citizen options and limitations to change/remove current installations“)
[12:52] Tanoujin Milestone: we talk about the houses Sudane has built in NFS
[12:52] Tanoujin Milestone: if people should buy the parcels and take what is given, or if they are allowed to replace them with their own houses
[12:53] Tanoujin Milestone: opinions?
[12:53] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory raises her hand
[12:53] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, Lilith?
[12:53] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): I think they should take what has been given or else buy another piece of and
[12:53] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): oeps sorry
[12:53] Lyubov (20180414): within the walls? a new sudane build -- take what is given with the exterior.
[12:53] Lyubov (20180414): agree lility
[12:55] Lilith Ivory: Lyubov took me to Sudanes (secret) building platform lately where she is building a new densified house ... it´s one complete street now with buildings on both sides and I have to say if one building would get removed the whole street would look ugly
[12:55] Lilith Ivory: so I´d say a clear NO to the replacememnt of any of her buildings
[12:55] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane)恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane) raises her hand if allowed
[12:55] Lilith Ivory: done
[12:55] Lyubov (20180414): yes, sudane is creating a beautiful and coherent theme
[12:55] Tanoujin Milestone whispers: Kyoko?
[12:55] XD-Moderator Speaker List v2.36: Current Speaker is Now:
[12:55] Tanoujin Milestone: Kyoko?
[12:55] Laura Azalee: raises hand too
[12:55] Tanoujin Milestone: use the stick please
[12:56] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): I agree with Lilith and Lyubov. The town is a whole as an architectural setting
[12:56] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): If should not be subject to replacement
[12:56] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): done
[12:56] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb)Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb) agrees
[12:56] Tanoujin Milestone: Laura?
[12:57] Laura Azalee: I agree on that too, you can't just remove oe of the houses but
[12:57] Laura Azalee: people should be allowed to modify the interior
[12:57] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, sure!
[12:57] Laura Azalee: like change the texture of the floor, walls etc
[12:57] Laura Azalee: done
[12:58] Laura Azalee: I understand it is not possible now?
[12:58] Tanoujin Milestone: Sudane is working on a script which makes that possible
[12:58] Laura Azalee: ah gret
[12:58] Laura Azalee: great
[12:58] Tanoujin Milestone: Are you done, Laury?
[12:58] Laura Azalee: yes done
[12:58] Tanoujin Milestone: *Laura
[12:58] Lilith Ivory: as I understand it this script has limitations but is better than nothing
[12:58] Tanoujin Milestone: please remove yoour name from the stick :)
[12:58] Laura Azalee: so your Y IS working after all :P
[12:59] XD-Moderator Speaker List v2.36: Current Speaker is Now: Han Held
[12:59] Tanoujin Milestone whispers: Han?
[12:59] Tanoujin Milestone: Han?
[12:59] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Hi, this might take a moment -please bear with me. First I want to ask about the scope of this; are we talking about the builds in the city walls? EG around the platz?
[13:00] Tanoujin Milestone: nay I abswer?
[13:00] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Please
[13:00] Tanoujin Milestone: grr
[13:00] Tanoujin Milestone: about the special houses that fit the irregular parcels only
[13:01] Lilith Ivory: mostly not around the Plats but other regions in NFS at the moment
[13:01] Tanoujin Milestone: I see Lilith typing and let her jump in
[13:01] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory laughs
[13:01] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): :D
[13:01] Tanoujin Milestone: ;)
[13:01] Lilith Ivory: what´s the name of your street Lyubov? that´s where Sudane is focusing atm
[13:01] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Ulrikastrasse, isn't it?
[13:01] Lyubov (20180414): Ulrikastrasse. next to the clock tower
[13:02] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory nods
[13:02] Tanoujin Milestone: Lyubov has a nice shop there, worth a visit
[13:02] Lilith Ivory: it will look amazing!
[13:02] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Anyway, I wanted to point out that if citizens rent those and change the interior and then move, copies should still be available in Archie and can be replaced, so I'm in favor of them changing the interior
[13:03] Lyubov (20180414): *blushes* ty, i Love the densified irregular streets and buildings, makes this So much more intrewsting than usual SL plots
[13:03] Tanoujin Milestone: ;)
[13:03] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): I'd be able to tolerate a law that requires faches and other builds inside the city walls to remain the ones that belong to the CDS
[13:03] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Done
[13:03] Lyubov (20180414): yes, Sudane has my original building on her platform, she can drop it back in
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[13:04] Lilith Ivory: and also with Sudanes script you can easily put the textures back to the beginning if one moves out
[13:04] Lilith Ivory: the owner of a house will not hve mod rights but be able to click a button to choose from textures
[13:05] Tanoujin Milestone: okay, I see a broad consensus for fixed prefabs, to be handled like the mews in AM or the harbor district in LA
[13:05] Lilith Ivory: and give sudane some .. thingy to enable her to include textures in the script
[13:05] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held)Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held) nods in strong agrerement with Tan
[13:05] Lilith Ivory: yes
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[13:05] Lyubov (20180414): yes
[13:06] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): mews in AM?
[13:06] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb)Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb) confused
[13:06] Tanoujin Milestone: that little houses Rosie made up the hill
[13:06] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): ah ok
[13:06] Tanoujin Milestone: nevertheless, we need to fix that in a Law, I am afraid
[13:07] Tanoujin Milestone: or am I wrong?
[13:07] Lyubov (20180414): i think it should be at least a regulation for the zone
[13:07] Tanoujin Milestone: haaaa, yes, the covenant!
[13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: that is a LUC job as well, isn't it?
[13:08] Lilith Ivory: not a law but the covenant needs to be modified
[13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: Lilith?
[13:08] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held): Please excuse me, I need to log for now. Thank you y'all...remember my email if you need me ❤
[13:08] Lilith Ivory: yes it is
[13:08] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): bye Han
[13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: thanks for coming, Han
[13:08] Laura Azalee: bye han
[13:08] Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held)Hannah Marie Tempestwolf (han.held) bows before the RA and logs
[13:08] Lilith Ivory: bye Han :)
[13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: nice animation :D
[13:08] Tanoujin Milestone: you can do that more often
[13:08] Lilith Ivory: it´s not the job of the RA to do those things
[13:09] Tanoujin Milestone: I agree
[13:09] Tanoujin Milestone: so it is the second point on the to do list of the LUC
[13:09] Lilith Ivory: lol, wait till you see my to do list for the LUC ;_)
[13:09] Tanoujin Milestone: hehehe
[13:09] Laura Azalee: the LUC's gonna be very busy...
[13:10] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane)恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane) tries to escape....
[13:10] Laura Azalee: lol
[13:10] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory grabs Kyoko
[13:10] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb)Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb) ties her up
[13:10] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane): oooooooooo kinky
[13:10] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): hehe
[13:10] Laura Azalee: lol
[13:10] Tanoujin Milestone: I move to ask the LUC to modify the covenant in a way that fixes the densified houses in NFS as prefabs
[13:10] Laura Azalee: second
[13:10] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): second
[13:11] Tanoujin Milestone: vote please
[13:11] Lyubov (20180414): aye!
[13:11] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[13:11] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[13:11] Laura Azalee: aye
[13:11] Tanoujin Milestone: hehe
[13:11] Tanoujin Milestone: motion carries. Thank you
[13:11] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): /e smiles
[13:11] Tanoujin Milestone: are you tired or are we good for a last point?
[13:12] Lyubov (20180414): i'm good
[13:12] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): me too
[13:12] Tanoujin Milestone: it is just a petitesse
[13:12] Laura Azalee: one last point is good
[13:12] Tanoujin Milestone: okay
[13:12] 恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane)恭子 Kyoko (samara.barzane) escapes while she can ;)
[13:12] Tanoujin Milestone: estate manager guidelines regarding new installations that fall within currently occupied parcels without citizen-owner agreement (clarification)
[13:12] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory smiles at Kyoko
[13:12] Tanoujin Milestone: Bagsm brought up that topic
[13:12] Tanoujin Milestone: *Bags
[13:13] Tanoujin Milestone: so, I did not really understand the necessity to regulate something
[13:14] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory points towards the talking stick :)
[13:14] Tanoujin Milestone: I believe if the governmet wnats to install something new and a private parcel is concerned, they have to get the consent of the parcel owner
[13:14] Tanoujin Milestone: sorry, Lilith
[13:14] Tanoujin Milestone: you have the floor
[13:15] Lilith Ivory: sadly it has happend to me in the past too that changes on public land have been made without asking me as the owner of the joining parcel ..
[13:16] Lilith Ivory: in my case rocks that have been behind my parcel in Am have been taken away and really spoiled my view out of my back windows
[13:16] Lyubov (20180414): mmm so not only the land owner, but direct neighbors should be asked?
[13:16] Lilith Ivory: I tried to live with it but had to give up my parcel after a while
[13:16] Tanoujin Milestone: interesting
[13:16] Lilith Ivory: yes and they schould be asked
[13:16] Lilith Ivory: hasn´t been the case with me in the past
[13:17] Lilith Ivory: not always at least
[13:17] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb)Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb) agrees with Lilith
[13:17] Tanoujin Milestone: was that an executive decision, to take the rocks away?
[13:18] Lilith Ivory: well , someone did. Not sure if it was an official decision or just an EM trying to make things look better - or in my case save prims for something else
[13:18] Tanoujin Milestone: ic
[13:18] Lilith Ivory: in fact it took me a while to realise what has changed and why I didn´t feel good in my home anymore
[13:18] Tanoujin Milestone: phew, intransparent
[13:19] Lilith Ivory: lol yes
[13:19] Tanoujin Milestone: do you have a suggestion how to adress that?
[13:19] Lilith Ivory: hmm ... difficult question
[13:20] Lyubov (20180414): more rules for LUC/EM's... changes to public lands should be posted and allow a comment period?
[13:20] Lilith Ivory: in the best of all worlds it should be the chancellor telling the EMs what they are allowed to do
[13:20] Lilith Ivory: but chancellors change and I do think it would be good to have some regulations somewhere
[13:20] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, but again , the laws tell the executive what they are allowed to do
[13:20] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb)Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb) agrees on that as well
[13:21] Lilith Ivory: perhaps we should not only have a convenant with guidelines for renters but also one for the exec
[13:21] Lilith Ivory: now please don´t throw stones at me for having this idea lol
[13:22] Lyubov (20180414): just pile them in your backyard :)
[13:22] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb)Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb) agrees with Lilith
[13:22] Lilith Ivory: lol
[13:22] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): hehe Kyubov
[13:22] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory does not have a backyard atm
[13:22] Tanoujin Milestone: so, in thiss case we need an addendum or a new law... maybe we can fit a passage into an existing law.... isnt the constitution stating the chancellor puts all land to its use as she wants?
[13:22] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): *Lyubov even
[13:22] Lilith Ivory: yes indeed
[13:23] Tanoujin Milestone: then we need ancanstitutional amendment
[13:23] Tanoujin Milestone: to limit that power
[13:23] Tanoujin Milestone: do you agree?
[13:23] Lilith Ivory: I guess in both cases it was not the chancellor and it was no major changes
[13:23] Tanoujin Milestone: but he is responsible
[13:24] Lilith Ivory: I am not in favor for putting this in a law, especially to ament the constitution
[13:24] Lyubov (20180414): no, i agree, the attractiveness of CDS is a key feature... part of why we don't want changes to sudane's builds.... owners need to abide by covenant rules for builds... so sounds like it is fair for public lands to also have similar rules, or at least be open to comment before action...
[13:24] Tanoujin Milestone: i do not like people using their buttons without asking for consent ofr evem inform the community
[13:25] Lilith Ivory: I never liked this ...can do as she/he wants law much , but I think it might be useful sometimes and I would like to see another way to deal with that
[13:25] Lilith Ivory: not changing the constitution because of a few rocks that have been placed
[13:26] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, I see your point. We might want to ponder about that until next time and table it now
[13:26] Lyubov (20180414): again, can LUC and the covenant be used as well, "public spaces will be developed in accordance with policy and changes will be subject to public comment and review"
[13:26] Tanoujin Milestone: i underestimated that topic, thanks for your contributions, Lilith
[13:26] Lilith Ivory: my pleasure :)
[13:27] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, maybe thats a good way to slove it, Lyubov
[13:27] Tanoujin Milestone: *solve
[13:27] Tanoujin Milestone: but I do not want to delegate it to the LUC that soon
[13:27] Tanoujin Milestone: lets read the laws and try to find a fitting ülace
[13:27] Tanoujin Milestone: *place for a limitation
[13:28] Lyubov (20180414): soudns good Tan
[13:28] Tanoujin Milestone: I move to table it (with an eye on the clock)
[13:28] Lyubov (20180414): second
[13:28] Tanoujin Milestone: vote
[13:28] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[13:28] Lyubov (20180414): aye
[13:28] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[13:28] Laura Azalee: aye
[13:28] Tanoujin Milestone: motion carries
[13:28] Tanoujin Milestone: no new business
[13:28] Tanoujin Milestone: Announcements?
[13:29] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): nope
[13:29] Tanoujin Milestone: so, It is shakespeare time again
[13:29] Tanoujin Milestone: when shall we meet again ;)
[13:29] Laura Azalee: lol
[13:29] Lyubov (20180414): same time, same place, 2 weeks?
[13:29] Tanoujin Milestone: fine with me
[13:29] Laura Azalee: good for me too
[13:29] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): no
[13:30] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): my sons birthday
[13:30] Tanoujin Milestone: ah, ic
[13:30] Laura Azalee: 3 weeks?
[13:30] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): 3 weeks?
[13:30] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): yes
[13:30] Tanoujin Milestone: hm, when will the term end btw?
[13:30] Laura Azalee: oh...good question lol
[13:30] Tanoujin Milestone: lol
[13:30] Lilith Ivory: moment :)
[13:31] Tanoujin Milestone: 3 weeks is okay....
[13:31] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): fone
[13:31] Lyubov (20180414): sure
[13:31] Lilith Ivory: it´s always the same time of the year :)
[13:31] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): i am on the phone please set a date
[13:31] Tanoujin Milestone: we will find out when they fome with torches and forks
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: Laury?
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: Laury?
[13:32] Laura Azalee: sorry?
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: Laura, grrr
[13:32] Laura Azalee: what?
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: 3 weeks okay?
[13:32] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[13:32] Laura Azalee: I suggested that! lol
[13:32] Laura Azalee: so it's ok yes
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: lol, sorry
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: vote
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[13:32] Laura Azalee: aye
[13:32] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): aye
[13:32] Lyubov (20180414): aye
[13:32] Tanoujin Milestone: fantastic
[13:33] Laura Azalee: so that's Oct 15 right?
[13:33] Tanoujin Milestone: motion to adjourn please
[13:33] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): yes
[13:33] Laura Azalee: no wait
[13:33] Laura Azalee: isn't there oktoberfest still going on?
[13:33] Tanoujin Milestone: okay :)
[13:33] Laura Azalee: or it ends on oct 14?
[13:33] Tanoujin Milestone: phew
[13:33] Tanoujin Milestone: idk
[13:34] Laura Azalee: let me read back
[13:34] Laura Azalee: Kyoko said it
[13:34] Lilith Ivory: the new term starts dec 1th
[13:34] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): have to go sorry
[13:34] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you Lilith!
[13:34] Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory smiles
[13:34] Tanoujin Milestone: I will IM you with the date, Kiki
[13:34] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): ty
[13:34] Lady Kiki Whatever (inekeb): bye
[13:34] Tanoujin Milestone: bye for now
[13:34] Laura Azalee: ends on Sunday
[13:35] Lilith Ivory: bye Kiki
[13:35] Tanoujin Milestone: sunday 14?
[13:35] Laura Azalee: so 15 should be good
[13:35] Tanoujin Milestone: yes
[13:35] Laura Azalee: yes
[13:35] Lyubov (20180414): yes
[13:36] Tanoujin Milestone: good, we already voted on that
[13:36] Tanoujin Milestone: no change
[13:36] Laura Azalee: right
[13:36] Tanoujin Milestone: motion to adjourn please?
[13:36] Laura Azalee: moved
[13:36] Lyubov (20180414): motioed
[13:36] Lyubov (20180414): second
[13:36] Tanoujin Milestone: vote
[13:36] Lyubov (20180414): aye
[13:36] Laura Azalee: aye
[13:36] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[13:36] Lilith Ivory: lol you are lucky you are still quorate ;-)
[13:36] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you very much, we are adjourned till Okt 15

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