Transcript - RA Meeting - 17 September 2017

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Transcript - RA Meeting - 17 September 2017

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[12:00] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Since we are quorate, let's begin.
[12:01] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): We can take time out of the schedule to swear Bags in, if she comes.
[12:01] Lilith Ivory: thank you Gaius :)
[12:01] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Is there a motion to approve the agenda?
[12:01] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): (YW!)
[12:01] Tanoujin Milestone: so moved
[12:01] Lilith Ivory: I need to swear her in before she can act as a RA member
[12:01] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Second?
[12:02] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I second
[12:02] Tanoujin Milestone: Hi badger :)
[12:02] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Let's vote
[12:02] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:02] Lilith Ivory: HI Bad :)
[12:02] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): aye
[12:02] badgerofzen: "Hullo!"
[12:03] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Ranma?
[12:04] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Let's wait a minute until Ranma is here
[12:04] Tanoujin Milestone: :) okay
[12:05] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): The motion passes, regardless.
[12:06] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I motion to approve the minutes.
[12:07] Tanoujin Milestone: second
[12:07] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Let's vote
[12:07] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:07] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): aye
[12:07] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Hm...
[12:09] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Motion passes again, regardless.
[12:09] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): The Chancellor is not present.
[12:09] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I contacted Delia about the LUC, but she has not contacted me back. I will reach out to her again.
[12:10] Tanoujin Milestone: thanks for the info, Gaius
[12:11] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): The road committee also did not meet this week, since I have been busy, and I only received one resident of Monastery's survey back. I will send out another public survey to others.
[12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: okay :)
[12:11] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Are there any citizens' concerns?
[12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: Hi Laura :)
[12:12] Rosie Gray: hi Laura ㋡
[12:12] Laura Azalee: hi all
[12:12] Lilith Ivory: HI Laura :)
[12:12] badgerofzen: "Hullo!"
[12:12] Lilith Ivory: not from me
[12:13] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Thank you, Lil ㋡
[12:13] Lilith Ivory: my pleasure :)
[12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: hehe
[12:13] Ranma Tardis: Hiya
[12:13] Rosie Gray: not from me either
[12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: Laura, Badger? If you have any concern, this would be the right time to tell us
[12:13] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Hi Ranma!
[12:13] Ranma Tardis: rl intruded
[12:13] badgerofzen: no concerns
[12:13] Tanoujin Milestone: Hey, Ranma :)
[12:14] Laura Azalee: everything is fine
[12:14] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Are there any RA members' concerns?
[12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: not from me
[12:14] Ranma Tardis: not me
[12:14] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): None here
[12:15] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I have left 4a on the old business section again just to remind myself that Rosie and I still need to meet to discuss shifting LI to public land in LA.
[12:15] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Tan, would you like to discuss 4b)
[12:15] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): ?
[12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: Yes, sure. Would it be okay to read the proposal into public chat to have it on the record?
[12:16] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Sure ㋡
[12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: okay STArT
[12:16] Tanoujin Milestone: 1. CN specific covenant:

Change the statement under „Zones and Typologies“ > „Zone R (Villa Quarter) and Zone L (South Riverfront Plots)“

quote: "11. Plots R.01-1 through R.01-5 are reserved for attachment to parcels within the city walls. There must be a minimum of 2 trees per plot."

to
[12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: 11. Plots R.01-1 through R.01-5 are reserved to supplement the prims of those owners of parcels within the CN city walls who have tiny parcels and thus very few prims. One prim parcel can be purchased for each city parcel. There must be a minimum of 2 trees per plot.
[12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: The prim parcels are locked to make sure they are correctly regulated. You can request available parcels from the Chancellor. If you want still more prims, you would simply buy a normal parcel outside the city walls, and in exchange, you would give up the prim parcel that the normal parcel is now replacing. This would free up the prim parcel for use by someone who cannot afford the expense of purchasing a normal parcel outside the walls to use as a prim parcel.
[12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: This exchange is on a parcel by parcel basis, so that for each normal parcel purchased, you would give up one of your owned prim parcels. The purchase of any additional normal parcels would be treated the same, with the exchange of one owned prim parcel for each normal parcel purchased.

The property situation that emerged before xx.xx.2017 is grandfathered.
[12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: ...
[12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: the text for 2. NFS covenant is quite the same,
[12:17] Tanoujin Milestone: 2. NFS specific covenant:

Add the same text under "A) Zones and Typologies" > "Zone O:(Outside city walls)" as number 5 (2 trees per lot rule discarded and parcel names replaced):
[12:18] Tanoujin Milestone: 5. Plots P280-01 trough P280-20 are reserved to supplement the prims of those owners of parcels within the NFS city walls who have tiny parcels and thus very few prims. One prim parcel can be purchased for each city parcel.
[12:18] Tanoujin Milestone: and so on
[12:18] Tanoujin Milestone: STOP
[12:18] Tanoujin Milestone: done
[12:18] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Thank you ㋡
[12:19] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Do people have responses to this proposal?
[12:19] Rosie Gray thinks it makes sense
[12:19] Lilith Ivory raises her hand
[12:20] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Ranma, then Lil
[12:20] Ranma Tardis: some people are over the limit now, right?
[12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, as far as I know
[12:20] Lilith Ivory waves hi to Oak
[12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: I know of one case in NFS
[12:20] Ranma Tardis: will they be forced to return over the limit lots?
[12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: Ho Oak
[12:20] Tanoujin Milestone: no, that would be grandfathered
[12:21] Ranma Tardis: where are the r lots again?
[12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: In NfS?
[12:21] Ranma Tardis: ah yes, what part
[12:21] Tanoujin Milestone: when you cross the bridge and go downhill
[12:21] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): They are by the river in CN
[12:22] Ranma Tardis: nods, thank you! done
[12:22] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Lilith?
[12:22] Lilith Ivory: I just wondered if Chancellor should be replaced through EM in "You can request available parcels from the Chancellor"
[12:23] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I agree that the catch-all term "Executive" could be used
[12:23] Tanoujin Milestone nods
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: but you see, it is a decision of policy
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: so, the EM has to look deeper into the case
[12:25] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker) nods.
[12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: if that is okay for you...
[12:25] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Rosie?
[12:25] Rosie Gray: thanks
[12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: i as an EM would inform the Chancellor and ask for feedback anyway
[12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: ups , sorry
[12:25] Rosie Gray: I agree with Lil that EM... or rather spelled out as Estate Manager would be sufficient
[12:26] Rosie Gray: I don't think you need to ask the Chancellor about every prim parcel, once the decision is made by the RA on what the law is about it
[12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: hmhm, ic
[12:26] Tanoujin Milestone: sure, I can change that
[12:26] Rosie Gray: and in some cases you would delay by who knows how long the purchase of the parcel
[12:26] Rosie Gray: okay ㋡
[12:26] Rosie Gray: done
[12:27] Lilith Ivory: and Estate or Casper manager can easily find out if the citizen owns a small plot downtown and decide if she/he qualifies
[12:27] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker) nods.
[12:27] Tanoujin Milestone takes a note
[12:27] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Do you think this proposal is ready to be adopted, Tanoujin?
[12:28] Tanoujin Milestone: oh, I would prefer to correct it according to this discussion, the EM detail that is, and leave it for another fortnight to discussion
[12:28] Tanoujin Milestone: then we can vote on it
[12:29] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Certainly! ㋡
[12:29] Tanoujin Milestone: there was not much feedback on it, we should not rush it
[12:29] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Sylvia on the forums also rcommended a solution for Friedsee, too, if there should be one there
[12:29] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): What are your opinions?
[12:29] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Tan?
[12:30] Tanoujin Milestone: me raises hand
[12:30] Tanoujin Milestone: thanks
[12:30] Tanoujin Milestone: I see no sense in the prim parcels in friedsee, are they corresponding in any way to town parcels that are left over from the redesign?
[12:30] Tanoujin Milestone: does anyone know?
[12:31] Rosie Gray raises a hand
[12:31] Lilith Ivory raises her hand higher
[12:31] Lilith Ivory: ah Rosie knows better than ma :)
[12:31] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Rosie?
[12:31] Rosie Gray: lol, maybe not Lil!
[12:31] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): And then Lil
[12:31] Rosie Gray: I think that they were made because there was no easy way to make a road to them
[12:31] Rosie Gray: and because the sim is a homestead
[12:32] Rosie Gray: that's all I know ㋡
[12:32] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Lil?
[12:32] Lilith Ivory: as far as I remember those prim parcels got created as there was no way to cut an additional normal parcel in FS
[12:33] Tanoujin Milestone: Me smiles
[12:33] Lilith Ivory: I don´t think this has changed til lthan but we can give it another try :)
[12:33] Lilith Ivory: done
[12:33] Tanoujin Milestone: don*t you have a prim parcel at FS, Gaius?
[12:34] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Yes, I'm the only one.
[12:34] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): They could theoretically correspond to the smaller parcels in the valley of the sim, but
[12:34] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I would prefer to keep my prim parcel. ㋡
[12:35] Tanoujin Milestone scratches head
[12:35] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): So it seems to me that we are all relatively of th opinion that this proposal is not necessarily rleevant to FS.
[12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: we can look and see what comes up on the forums
[12:36] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): So, I suppose that we do not need to have a limit in Friedsee. Does that seem fair?
[12:36] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): That's also a good idea.
[12:36] Tanoujin Milestone: I have no settled opinion on this at the moment ;)
[12:37] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Well, then, shall we move on, then?
[12:37] Ranma Tardis: unless something changes, I am not in favor of the limit for neuf, keep status quo
[12:37] Tanoujin Milestone: yes, I move to table the discussion
[12:37] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Second
[12:37] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Let's vote
[12:38] Ranma Tardis: aye
[12:38] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:38] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): aye
[12:38] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you
[12:38] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Motion passes.
[12:38] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Are there any announcements?
[12:39] Lilith Ivory wonders if the PIO has any news about Octoberfest
[12:39] Tanoujin Milestone: no, but I have a question - you want a rally on 24th, Gaius?
[12:39] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Yes ㋡

[12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: Is it about this event when the alt rights and nazis in USA killed a person with a car, a counter-demonstrant?
[12:40] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): In commemoration of this year's Oktoberfest, Tor and I had the great idea of holding a rally in opposition to rising white supremacy and Fascism in our RL macronations.
[12:40] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Yes ㋡
[12:40] Ranma Tardis: :)
[12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: okay, good. Thank you, good idea
[12:40] Tanoujin Milestone: I will be there ;)
[12:41] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): It will be from 12:00pm SLT to 2pm and we will march from the Praetorium, through LA, and then up to NFS
[12:41] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I've been told that a few people will be providing free signs if you cannot make your own!
[12:42] Rosie Gray: nice
[12:42] Laura Azalee: wonders if she could ask a couple of questions...
[12:42] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): In addition, I am also going to be throwing a Bi+ Pride dance party on the Platz on Monday 25 September
[12:42] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Yes, of course!
[12:42] Laura Azalee: ok question #1 ... can we invite friends who don't live here to the rally?
[12:42] Tanoujin Milestone: :)
[12:43] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Yes! The more the merrier!
[12:43] Lilith Ivory: we would highly appreciat that :)
[12:43] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): In fact, thank you for reminding me that I need to send out a notice to other groups
[12:43] Laura Azalee: quesstion #2 ... since some residents - like myself don't live in the US, would it be possible to get a short notecard about what happened?
[12:44] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Sure ㋡
[12:44] Tanoujin Milestone: very good idea!
[12:44] Laura Azalee: thank you
[12:44] Lilith Ivory: yes indeed
[12:44] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I can also send a short documentary about what happened
[12:44] Laura Azalee: great thanks
[12:45] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker):
[12:45] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): There is a documentary about what happened.
[12:45] Laura Azalee: ty
[12:45] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Thank you ㋡
[12:46] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): But yes, I will also be throwing an LGBTQ+ Pride party on the Platz on Monday 25 September in the evening
[12:46] Tanoujin Milestone: hehe, nice
[12:47] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I still need to figure out a time. Let me actually make a note to discuss that on the forums...
[12:47] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Any other announcements?
[12:48] Tanoujin Milestone: not from me
[12:48] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): If not, is there a motion to adjourn?
[12:48] Tanoujin Milestone: so moved
[12:48] Rosie Gray: wait!
[12:48] Ranma Tardis: second
[12:48] Rosie Gray: lol
[12:48] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Rosie?
[12:48] Tanoujin Milestone: :)
[12:48] Rosie Gray looks at the talking stick
[12:49] Tanoujin Milestone: uh oh
[12:49] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Lil?
[12:49] Lilith Ivory: me?
[12:49] Ranma Tardis: we have a motion on the floor

[12:49] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Rosie?
[12:49] Lilith Ivory: ok sorry
[12:49] Rosie Gray: ok
[12:49] Rosie Gray: well just to announce that Shep is organizing an Oktoberfest ball
[12:50] Lilith Ivory: yay! awesome!
[12:50] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): ㋡
[12:50] Rosie Gray: calling it Fall Ball, Sunday Oct. 1, 1pm slt
[12:50] Lilith Ivory: when ?
[12:50] Laura Azalee: YESSSS
[12:50] Rosie Gray: Calli DJ'ing first hour, and second hour a live singer named Scarlett LaRoux Foggerty
[12:50] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): ㋡
[12:50] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Woo!
[12:51] Rosie Gray: also of course starting out the Oktoberfest celebrations on Sept 23

[12:51] Rosie Gray: with an opening parade from LA to the NFS platz... 11:30 am slt
[12:51] Ranma Tardis: yea in the middle of the day
[12:51] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Woo!
[12:51] Lilith Ivory: cool
[12:51] Rosie Gray: 12:30 - 2:30 pm slt Oompah Music with Timothy Scarborough at the platz
[12:51] Rosie Gray: because that is Lilith's FAVOURITE musice!
[12:51] Lilith Ivory laughs
[12:51] Laura Azalee: <--- is delighted :D
[12:52] Rosie Gray: and a few other things in the works
[12:52] Rosie Gray: also the Home & Garden tour
[12:52] Lilith Ivory: can´t live without that at least once a year lol
[12:52] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I will be wearing my lederhosen
[12:52] Rosie Gray: and Jaynine Scarborough Sept 30, noon slt
[12:52] Rosie Gray: Noma Falta 1 pm slt Sept 30
[12:53] Rosie Gray: followed by Red Heaven at 2
[12:53] Rosie Gray: those will be on the docks
[12:53] Rosie Gray: lots more information to come!
[12:53] Rosie Gray: done
[12:53] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Alright!
[12:53] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Now let's vote! (and thank you Rosie)
[12:53] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): aye
[12:53] Ranma Tardis: aye
[12:54] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:54] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Motion passes
[12:54] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): We are adjourned.

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