CSDF General Meeting Friday 27 Oct 3pm - Transcript

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CSDF General Meeting Friday 27 Oct 3pm - Transcript

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The next General Meeting of the CSDF will be on[b:3e3v25jc] **Friday** 27 Oct at 3pm[/b:3e3v25jc]. Please note new day of the week.

Location: [b:3e3v25jc]The Red House[/b:3e3v25jc] on the Lowland Road, Neufreistadt.

Please add suggested agenda items to this thread.

This is an open meeting so all are welcome to attend
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[color=Black:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Object-Name: notetaker 2.0.1[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Sienna:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Region: Neufreistadt (246528, 249600)[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkOliveGreen:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Local-Position: (100, 82, 128)[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkGreen:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Meeting on 2006-10-27[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateBlue:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Those present[/b:tqi90wjd]: [/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami is in the chair.[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: let mne send Claude the notecard[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle nods[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: what shall we discuss out of that lot?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: CDS const. Will we get to it?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: who is proposing?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: is that Gxs idea? about turnign the CDS into a kind of UN/EU[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i propose we take them in order, and spend about an hour on tomorrow's meeting[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes, that is the Gxo thing[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Okay[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: do we know what CN covenant revisions is about?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes, authored by Moon[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle smiles[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: well, we will naturally support that then :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Mainly adjustments not we have the actual place..[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: *now[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Moon?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: sorry, as readng back[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: oh, this is very very simple[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: is basically organizing the covenants that Claude had set in sometime ago[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: and which back then e decided tthat we would review closer to opening date[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: it only adds the typological definition of the roman themed buildings[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: and the approved materials[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: ok, fairly uncontroversial then?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: very very broadly[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i think so[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: though you never know :P[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: what of Executive Exclusivity?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i think this was posted on the forums, it seemed fairly uncontroversial too[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: I have the note card I think.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes, it is.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: quote: The Chancellor may not be elected or serve on the Representative Assembly, nor serve on the Scientific Council. The Chancellor may hold a position in the Artisanal Collective but may not vote.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Seems fine.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: well, sounds fine. a tidying up exercise. how about compensation for govnt posts? how much money do u guys want? :P[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Oh, you mean there is mony here?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: I think those people who have been proposing RL salaries for civil servants have some work to do..[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: especially while we are so small.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Aliasi proposes:[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i think we're still talking about token amounts rather than RL salaries :) i support the principle[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: The rate of compensation for members of the Representative Assembly, Scientific Council, the Guildmaster, and the Chancellor, shall be a credit of L$1,000 per month against land-use fees incurred by that individual. All excess credit against fees is forf[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Which seems more reasonable, but I am not sure it will help all that much.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i am not sure if the system shouldn't rely instead on assiduity[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i think the idea is that it would make RA members feel they 'ought' to turn up to RA meetings and avoid the possibility of inquorate RAs (tho I think this RA has been better than previous ones)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: assiduity?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: lol, i do hope you think that![/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: yes, per session, say[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Well, in general that has not been much of a problem this time around[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: or like this, but with a hmmm[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i lack the word[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: I think Pel has missed a meeting or two. In all other cases the absence was pre-arranged[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: in our parliament, say, MPs are fined if they miss sessions without duee cause[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: aah, it's better to pay irrespective of how many meetings ppl attend. ppl feel the need to turn up, even if it's a token amount. the book 'freakonomics' covers teh idea, it's very clever[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: ok, if you say so[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes, I agree.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: this is not really something that i am keen on, lol[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Well, as I said, I am not sure how much good it will do.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: you could propose that it really is a token amount, like L$500[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: hmm.. what is L$1,000 in US$[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: ?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: about $3[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: It seems funny to ask others to pay someone like me..[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: not too comfortable, since I serve on the RA to help the community.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: well, i'm happy with teh principle that ppl who serve teh community through standing for elected postions should receive some compensation, even if it's a token amount. and it may provide an incentive to turn up, which would be good[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes, it may help.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: In comparison, Moon typically asks L$1 for her builds, for example in CN[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: and she puts in a LOT of work.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: but, i leave it to your consciences for tomorrow. how about referenda?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: debate on this fizzled out on the forums, despite my handy guide to thinkign it all thru[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle nods[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: oh, did u touch the recorder btw?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: ah, about compensation, sorry - i'll possibly abstain[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i did touch it... never sure now if they work[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: hmmmm[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i'll take it as read moon :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: about referenda[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: I will say that I am still worried about referenda making us too conservitive about new projects in the long term.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes, I did touch the recorder :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: well, pat, unlike you, you know i am a constitutional iconoclast[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i feel logivally puzzled still by referenda[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: logically*[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: this means, i weigh pro and con and can't reach a conclusion[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: well, the proposal did come at a specific point in time[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: the community was debating the power of teh SC and some wanted to short-circuit the SC entirely thru referenda instead of the SC[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i proposed to keep the SC as constl arbiters but add in popular refernda to ratify const amends[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: please tell me what is the hmm general feel about it[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i'm not entirely wedded to the idea, i'm happy with the status quo. the proposal was made to avoid changes to the SCs powers which i thought were dangerous[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: because i haven't read that discussion yet, will do that tomorrow morning[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Well, on the plus side, popular ratification may increase popular support for the proposals[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: and waht ab0ut your old idea of holding a scheduled const discussion every legislature?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Is anyone proposing changes in the SC powers now?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: no jon, i don't think they are[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i think there are a lot of issues with this proposal, i came up with seven key qns. perhaps the RA should decide the more debate is needed but set a deadline for making a decision?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: have you posted them?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: yes, and some ppl have come back on them. but others with firm views, such as gwyn, have yet to enter teh debate[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: yup[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: should we move on?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Gwyn also, I think, has been busy with beta[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: but ok, e'll propose that debate moves on to a date in future[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: yes, she has[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: still in meeting... :([/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: oh yes, i understand. the forums have become a bit confrontational lately. it's rather off-putting. i've always thought ours were teh best forums[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Its in part the nature for forums.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: *of[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i hear that the heraldic debate got quite fiery... :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle smiles[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: yes, such a bizarre thing to fall out over. mind you, i'm guilty of the odd snarky post as well :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: lol[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: we have IP on the agenda for tomorrow, anything to say about that?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: well, i am keen on heraldics myself and could have contributed, if not so busy[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: haven't read it yet[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: so sorry... i know i should have prepared better for this meeting :([/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: I've been thinking about how there could be forum-like software that would push dicussion towards consensus[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: AH YES![/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: *discussion[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: oops[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i think this was ash's proposal, that IP disputes should be settled by our inworld courts. the covenant says they are for teh lindens to sort out at the moment.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: actually, i have been thinking that something like that could be part of teh Opensource Democracy thingy[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: btw do we have a judiciary yet? courts? judges of common jurisdiction etc?[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: gwyn says almost...[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Last I heard those were still in the works[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: again, fairly incontroversial i think[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: *uncontroversial[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: I wonder if IP disputes can be settled by in-world courts without both parties agreeing to that settlement.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: dunno[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: not clear to me either[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Since these might involve violation of RL copywrites[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i think that really depends on the civism of the parts[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: ah[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: well, on that case[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: LL must step in, i think[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i'm fading fast guys :) anything else we need to discuss? i can't see u getting thru all that we've discussed tomorrow[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Yes, I think we have covered what we need to.[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: yup[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: i am falling asleep here too[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: When I get a moment to do so, I will be writing a longer proposal on the Guild[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i have an ulterior motive, i want to drag u back to my place where i've been remodelling :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Indigo:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Moon Adamant[/b:tqi90wjd]: lol[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkSlateGray:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Jon Seattle[/b:tqi90wjd]: Sure :)[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=Navy:tqi90wjd][b:tqi90wjd]Patroklus Murakami[/b:tqi90wjd]: i'll turn off the recorder[/color:tqi90wjd]
[color=DarkRed:tqi90wjd][i:tqi90wjd]The meeting closed at 15:59 Linden time.[/i:tqi90wjd][/color:tqi90wjd]

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