CSDF General Meeting 31 August 3pm - Transcript

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CSDF General Meeting 31 August 3pm - Transcript

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The next General Meeting of the CSDF will be on [b:27t4c71c]Thursday 31 August at 3pm[/b:27t4c71c].

Location: [b:27t4c71c]Pat's Country Home[/b:27t4c71c] on the Lowland Road, (Neufreistadt 123, 33)

Please add suggested agenda items to my preliminary list by posting here.

[b:27t4c71c]Agenda[/b:27t4c71c]
1. Welcome to new members

2. Chancellor position (for further info see the announcement [url=http://forums.neufreistadt.info/viewtop ... 8:27t4c71c]here[/url:27t4c71c])

3. Proposal for use of new group tools (see post below)

4. Judiciary Bills

5. CSDF Future Activities.

This is an open meeting so all are welcome to attend (but please keep your clothes on!)

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Edit: Added item 3 on new group tools
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New Group Tools

Post by Patroklus Murakami »

Doh!

There's one thing I forgot to put on the agenda: proposal for using the new group tools.

Our Charter says that: [quote:2jaqvkoe]"Membership is open to all Neufreistadt citizens. Prospective members must be ratified by a majority of existing members at a General Meeting of the Faction before they are allowed to vote.

Membership can only be withdrawn from a member of the Faction by majority vote at a General Meeting."[/quote:2jaqvkoe] but we already have one supporter who is not a citizen of Neufreistadt (yet!) and have previously been dealing with the transition to full membership by inviting people to become officers of the group.

I propose that we have broadly two types of membership: 'supporters' and 'members'. Prospective members who are Neufreistadt citizens would start off as 'supporters', they would then be promoted to full membership, as per our charter, at a General Meeting. This category would also suit people who want to join the CSDF but who are not (yet) ready to become citizens.

In terms of the group tools, 'supporters' would have the abilities ascribed to 'Everyone' and these would include:
[list:2jaqvkoe]Invite People to this Group
Receive Notices and view past Notices[/list:u:2jaqvkoe]

'Members' would also have the ability to:
[list:2jaqvkoe]Send Notices
Create Proposals
Vote on Proposals[/list:u:2jaqvkoe]

Finally, I suggest that the Secretary-General of the CSDF be empowered to:
[list:2jaqvkoe]Eject Members from this Group[/list:u:2jaqvkoe]

We also need to decide what to do about some of the other abilities such as creating new Roles, Changing Role names, titles etc. Currently this can all be done by Jon, our Beloved Founder :), but we should consider who should have these abilities in a democratic organisation.
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Very good point. I am glad to add owners, officers, etc depending on what we decide. Thanks!
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I’ve set up the group roles almost as Pat suggested. Note that this is pending approval by the faction.

I’ve included an additional “officerâ€
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CSDF General Meeting 31 August 3pm - Transcript 1/2

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[color=Black:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Object-Name: notetaker 2.0.1[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Sienna:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Region: Neufreistadt (246528, 249600)[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOliveGreen:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Local-Position: (133, 8, 125)[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkGreen:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Meeting on 2006-08-31[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateBlue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Those present[/b:2pvt9a9z]: [/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami is in the chair.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: pls touch the recorder to indicate consent to be recorder. we put our transcripts on the website fo rpp who can't be here[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I will have to leave at 4 sharp to catch a bus.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: there's an agenda in the notecard giver. it's teh same as teh one i distributed to the group[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hmmm, our Beloved Leader has crashed.... .([/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Ah, shall we hold the entire meeting, quick, while he is offline?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i was already wandering, whats going on[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I figured everyone was in IM but me[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I guess we should wait.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol, no[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: you see, daniel, Pat chairs the meeting[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: as he is our secretary-general[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i thought everyone was silent because would be readng teh agenda and notecards .)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i think i am to new to sl to really understand[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I did read them, cept there are a lot of words..more pictures ![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ah, daniel, it's simple, lol - we're a political party in this sim, who is a self-overned sim[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we have a democratically elected government[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so, you are social democrats. is this some kind of philosophical debatte?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: or actual politics?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so, we have a political life... check http://www.neufreistadt.info for details :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: No, Danial, actual politics within this region, or sim.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: this is our general meeting, which we hold every thursday[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: actual SL politics correct?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: sure. i will check out your site[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hmmm.. if Pat is too late, we may have to proceed. Lets wait a few more minutes.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i propose we wait till 3.20, then move on[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle nods and agrees[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: is this a typical attendance for a meeting?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well, some of our members are late... but yes, fairly typical[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Usually a few more. There is no RA meeting this weekend, so things are a bit quieter than normal.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: *nods*[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: RA= representative assembly, our legislative branch[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we discuss the bills in discussion in RA[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and also the CSDF's proposals[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ok[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Yea! :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: welcome back[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: meh, sorry boiut that[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: wb pat :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: No problem.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: welcome back Pat[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: did u get past weclome tot new members?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: no, lol, we were waiting for you till 3.20 .)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: We decided to wait until 3:20, and you showed up at exactly that moment[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: good timing eh?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol, perfect![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well, welcome to ranma, ah more to come[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Yes, welcome![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi mindserfer , glad u could make it[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, welcome Ranma![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hello mindserfer .)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Green:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi thanks.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Hello mindsurfer[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: thank you Pat, Jon and Moon :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we also had albert gainsburg join this week, but i haven't been in touch with him[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant nods[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: now, point 2[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant listens to pat[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: congrats to moon and jon for persuading the dpu to support our main election plank![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we got an executive, yay![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes we did! yea![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: oh, it was Jon, really :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yay[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and yay![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: With some compremises, but I think it is a good step forward.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed it is[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Well, it was everyone.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so, claude has posted the procedure that will be followed to select the Chancellor, and aliasi has put her hat in the ring[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Indeed. No sign if she is offically supported by the DPU.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: no, but clearly a strong candidate[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed she is :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well, two qns for us. should we field a candidate? and if so, who? and how far shd we say they're a csdf candidate[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ok that was three![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes I agree she is strong[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i think the CSDF should field a candidate[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Yes, I think we should field a candidate.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Teal:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Knock knock...?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: after all, we from teh firt proposed the executive branch...[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: come on in ashcroft, u r welcome to join us[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Hello Ashcroft[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi Ashcroft :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Teal:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Hello :-)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: oh yes, moon, i think we should field a candidate.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: could i invite nominations?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Yes, I would like to nominate Pat, if he is willing.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hmmm, can i nominate you, Pat? :D[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle laughs[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ty jon, moon :) i am willing to stand[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Teal:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Ashcroft Burnham has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi yoge :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: namaste Yoge :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Hi Yoge![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: namaste, all[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle smiles at Yoge[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: do i hear any other nominations? yoge, we're selecting a candidate for chancellor[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i just got nominated :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: congratulations![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, we just nominated the Beloved victim er Leader :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: k, we appear to have only one nominee. now how are we going to vote on it this time?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I would add my to it but not a full member yet[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: oh ranma, i think we can make u a full member now[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: would u like to stand as CSDF candidate for Chancellor?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: no you have my support as canidate[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: oh i see! sorry, my mistake :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so , how shall we vote?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Lets go ahead and vote.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, please start the vtation, Pat[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ok, the proposal is: Pat Murakami for CSDF candidate for Chancellor. response is aye or nay. i vote aye[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: do I vote?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I vote yes[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: u may ranma[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye then[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, ranma :) we welcomed you .)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yay! unanimity[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Teal:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Congratulations :-)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: *smiles*[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: world domination next mwuhahahaha![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant feels a mwahaha :)[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: LOL[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: now,[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: how party political should we be?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i.e. run a 'CSDF' candidate or a 'csdf supported' candidate?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I would recommend the latter.. because of the way the exec is elected in this case.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hmmmm, would like to hear opinions on this[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: And whoever serves in that role has the job of being the executive for the entire community[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ok, Jon, i understand your point[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well, the way i see it moon. is that the successful candidate will need at least three votes in teh RA[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and we only ahve two :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so you think a CSDF candidate may not be voted by the DPU, even if they don't have their own candidate?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well there is no sure thing the other 3 members will vote as a block[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: but a CSDF supported one might?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so we need to convince at least one dpu member to vote for our candidate, may be more difficult if they're heavily csdf[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant nods[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: nods[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, I agree with that.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we don't yet know if there will be a dpu candidate. and i think jon made a good point[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: though ranma is right, we don't know if they will vote that way[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, i agree with Jon :D[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: the chancellor needs to be less 'party political' if u see what i mean[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Hi Mind![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Green:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:2pvt9a9z]: thanks.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ok, so do we agree on this: a CSDF supported candidate?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so, are we agreed that our candidate should be 'csdf supported' rather than csdf-branded?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye :D[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: any views, ranma?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ty:)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant reads back to see what was 3rd point :)[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: k, shall we move on? i'll put soem ideas down for a 'manifesto' to teh group by email, ok?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Yes, great idea.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we just agree teh 3rd point moon :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: *agreed[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: sorry... bit tired today, ignore me :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and kk ;)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: one question, what if the vote is 2 for each?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: np. so item 3 is the new group tools. i posted a proposal and jon has implemented them?/ then the two candidate fight![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ah, and one abstention, you mean?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Green:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:2pvt9a9z]: who besides pat?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes or non attendance[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: kk[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: there is one other candidate already mind[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: from outside csdf[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i think there is a precedent for Paper Rock Scissors, but i am not sure if it will apply :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: it'll be fun to see what happens if the vote is split! guess teh RA has to keep going til they find a candidate who can command a majority[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: can we go to item 3 now?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: please, Pat :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ty to jon for putting them into practice. did they sound ok to ppl?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i agree with them[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and thanks Jon :D[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: They sound just fine to me. I added an additional category to handle the property permissions (we have none, but just in case).[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: These may be useful in the future for schedulding events and the like.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: about the final paragraph... maybe these functions could be in custody of the sec-gen too, to be assumed by mandate of teh general-meeting?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, i think we can keep the situation, roles, abilities etc under review. we'll get used to them in time[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: did u mean the power to eject members, moon?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i must say, btw, that i hadn't time yetto look at the new group tools besides the very basic stuff...[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: they are very involved[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: oh, what Jon says below that[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: let me paste:[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Ah, it this about the group ownership?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I have some comments on that.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant listens to Jon[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami listens to moon and jon[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Okay, my current thought is that group owner should be mainly administrative.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: that is listening to the faction and then implementing whatever is decided there.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yup, what i meant too :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: That the group owner should not make policy. Now having said that.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i agree totally[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I do think a case can be made for this being some people other than the sec. gen.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: First of all, new sec. gen's may be elected and ownership is not somthing that can be taken away except by the owner. Not a big problem, probubly.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant nods[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Green:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:2pvt9a9z]: democracy as an information processing system.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: But keeping this in someone else's hands does server as a kind of check on possible problems.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: We would want more than one person[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and both must be completley trustworthy, that is[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: they must not use this power except at the consent of the faction.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: nods[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Teal:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:2pvt9a9z]: afk[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i agree jon that that is the way that things should work. at some point we will have to consider further how to reconcile our democratic form of organisatin witht the group tools[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle nods and agrees[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i havent' had time to fully understand them but, it seems they give owners the same central role they had before[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and, as we learned previously, that can be a problem when disputes arise[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Yes, the owner has absolutle power to set any permission.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: now, i know that jon is a reasonable person who would do the bidding of teh faction :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: but we're still dependent on that with these tools, as far as i can see[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Yes, that is why I do recommend having a second person.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: are u ready to nominate someone today?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Oh, I will suggest any of Gwyn, Moon, of Yoge[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: *or[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i'd be happy with that, would any of jon's nominees like to respond?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i would be honored to assist :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: moon?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: er... lol, yet anothr victim thingy :) but, yes, i can also do that, thogh i prefer to appoint also Gwyn or Yoge :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ouch, sorry for typos...[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and nominate* sorry[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Lets elect Yoge then. Also there should be vote confirming (or not) my role.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: can we agree to appoint moon, gwyn and yoge as co-owners of the faction?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye to jon and myself :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye to Jon and Yoge![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: sorry, i was typing at teh same tiem as jon[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aaargh! chat lag again[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, to jon and yoge[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: btw, we must also consider that this decision of co-owning, such as the roles, etc must be added to our Charter - and ratified[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aye to Jon and Yogeswari[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I vote yes, of course.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I have to dash. Thank you all! :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Indigo:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Jon Seattle[/b:2pvt9a9z]: waves[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: goodnight, jon[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant waves to Jon and smiles brightly[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: bye jon[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well, thank you for your hospitality![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: cu[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: bye Daniel[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: see you daniel :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: btw, when is your next meeting?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: bye bye[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: daniel, every thursday[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: at this hour[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkOrange:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Daniel McAllister[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ok, ill read up about you, and well meet again i think , bye![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Green:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:2pvt9a9z]: good night.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Teal:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Good night :-)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: dammit![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: wb pat :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: sorry, having problems with my connection[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: np Pat[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: r we ok to move on to 4?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I am having graphics card issues tonight[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes please[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: also i have a portuguese newbie requesting my help, so if we could be hmmm concise... :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: so, justice has put forward an alternative, bite-size series of jusiciary proposals. ashcroft has said why he doesn\t feel its an advance on his proposal[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: moon so you are a mentor too I see[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: any comments from around the rooM?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: afk[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi, and sorry[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, though i am doing very little duty of late, ranma.... really just assisting portuguese speakers, no time for more[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkSlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Summer Carmichael[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi Gwyneth[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi gwyn, glad u could make it[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Green:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hi nice to see you again too ;-)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we're on to item 4, competing judiciary bills[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Pat, i must say that i have been extremely busy this week, so i haven't been following the discussion[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hey gwyn[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Good... :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: either on judiciary or on the others[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well, i think that justice's proposal was an attempt to simplify matters... that has failed![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: unfortunately, the five mini-bills don't stand up separately. u either do the lot, or don't bother imho[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: from the little i have read, i must agree with pat, all of it is overkill[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Hmm[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Green:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:2pvt9a9z]: there is something to be said for terse-ness of a process.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: So you'd side with Ashcroft on that?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes, i'd rather pass one comprehensive bill (with some important amends) than five or a portion of the five[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i think ashcroft has demosnstrated they don't stand alone[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* understandingly[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i agree[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: shall we discuss next week. when ppl have had more time to consider?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: please[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Olive:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Ranma Tardis[/b:2pvt9a9z]: please[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I can only hope that *I* will... :) :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: hehe, gwyn[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I'm sorry, this week has been an utter nightmare...[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yes please![/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed it has...[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: k, item 5 is sudane's proposals for Treasurer and Estate Manager bills, updated to take account of the new exec position[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: having that same kind of week here, gwyn[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: we discussed the idea last week, and agree that a 'Treasury' would be preferable to a 'Treasurer'. any further comments this time?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami sympathises with everyone who's had a bad week (and grins cos hes' been on holiday:))[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: where do we stand politically on this?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn would envy Pat if that weren't a bad feeling to show :)[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: have you had any discussions with ash and sudane>[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: ?[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: yoge, it doesn't feel terribly political to me, unless i've missed something[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: just seems like a way to formalise the current situation and clarify our custom and practice[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: well, i think Sudane's proposals are pacific, and i take into account her experience as both de facto sim owner and treasurer[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: that's why i'm asking[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][i:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn can only mostly agree,[/i:2pvt9a9z][/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and prepare for the day sudane hands over the reins[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: although to be honest I only read her proposal last week,[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: and I've 30% less brain cells since then,...[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: I have to regrow them ? slowly :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: lol[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: aw, poor gwyn :)[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i think the proposal is okay[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Blue:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Yogeswari Padar[/b:2pvt9a9z]: just codifies what we've been doing all along[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: indeed Yoge[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=Navy:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Patroklus Murakami[/b:2pvt9a9z]: i think the Treasurer/y role could be made clearer to put it within the Exec's remit. but that's all i've thought so far[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: What I recall from it, I can only say "aye" to yoge's assessment.[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Well,[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: that depends, i think, pat[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=SlateGray:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:2pvt9a9z]: Sudane was clear she didn't want the Treasury to be part of teh Exec...[/color:2pvt9a9z]
[color=DarkRed:2pvt9a9z][b:2pvt9a9z]Moon Adamant[/b:2pvt9a9z]: if you consider it a minister of finance or a bank of n'stadt[/color:2pvt9a9z]
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CSDF General Meeting 31 August 3pm - Transcript 2/2

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[color=Blue:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Yogeswari Padar[/b:1pt8rlsm]: it should be separate from the exec role[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: what was the rationale for that?[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: hm?[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: Checks and balances.[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Olive:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Ranma Tardis[/b:1pt8rlsm]: segragration of duties[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: So that it doesn't become a "political" role,[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Blue:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Yogeswari Padar[/b:1pt8rlsm]: absolutely![/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: yes, i agree with Gwyn and ranma[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: which would be "dangerous" since the whole city depends on the payments :)[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: indeed[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: so we can agree in the proposal stablishing it outside of exec, then?[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Blue:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Yogeswari Padar[/b:1pt8rlsm]: aye[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Olive:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Ranma Tardis[/b:1pt8rlsm]: aye[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: yes, i'm ok with that[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: gwyn?[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: sorry, I say aye[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: kk, i say aye as well - and will talk about it with Jon[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: so that leaves future activities, guess we'll need a GM next week. does anyone know when the next RA is?[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: maybe ask Claude also to move the proposals up in agenda, so that they can be voted fast[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: ah, Pat[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: let em read mail[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: yes, claude is quite amenable to that. get the easy things done first[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: Aaah[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: Tsk.[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: Bad politics :)[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: One should go for the hard bits first, while there is still a quorum ;)[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: aaahh! gotcha gwyn[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: Actually, Moon has an idea for that,[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: wise old gwyn :)[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: but perhaps we can discuss it over on emails[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: I try, Pat, I try,[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: these days I feel "older" than "wiser" :D[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: oh yes? maybe over email. i get teh impression everyone feels pretty tired?[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][i:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn is falling asleep on her keyboard[/i:1pt8rlsm][/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: and i'm usually the one flagging at this point[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: haha yes indeedy![/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: pat and all, next RA meeting is still in discussion, but possibly for the 9th[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: shall we close the meeting? same time, next week?[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=SlateGray:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pt8rlsm]: You can have your revenge on us, Pat :) :)[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: i'll email you later on when we agree on a date[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: ty moon[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DarkRed:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Moon Adamant[/b:1pt8rlsm]: please Pat, and thanks for holding the meeting .)[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Green:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]mindserfer Hilbert[/b:1pt8rlsm]: yes thak.s[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=Navy:1pt8rlsm][b:1pt8rlsm]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pt8rlsm]: ty to everyone for coming[/color:1pt8rlsm]
[color=DimGray:1pt8rlsm][i:1pt8rlsm]The meeting closed at 16:29 Linden time.[/i:1pt8rlsm][/color:1pt8rlsm]
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